Valid Reasons To Not Get Vaccinated

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Whether you're in support of the COVID vaccine, against it,  or on the fence please use this particular thread to cite credible, evidence-based sources to share with everyone so we can engage in a discussion that revolves around LEARNING.  

I'll start:

The primary concerns I've shared with others have to do with how effective the vaccine is for those who have already been infected.  I've reviewed studies and reports in that regard.  There are medical professionals I've listened to that, in my personal opinion,  don't offer a definitive answer. 

Here are some links to 2 different, I'll start with just 2:

Cleveland Clinic Statement on Previous COVID-19 Infection Research

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021

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20 minutes ago, hello_nurse555 said:

I can respect other people's opinions, but being told what to do makes me want to do the opposite, personally. And I know a lot a lot of other hcw's who feel the same, just don't say anything, since going against the talking heads party line leads to a dogpile of bullying. Like we haven't earned our own opinions after all this. But hey to be a nurse is to be abused, really.

I've been telling people this for a long time on this thread. The sentiment I get is people shouldn't have an opinion contrary to getting the vaccine and shouldn't have any choice whether they get it or not. 

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14 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

I've been telling people this for a long time on this thread. The sentiment I get is people shouldn't have an opinion contrary to getting the vaccine and shouldn't have any choice whether they get it or not. 

There it is … if your flawed reasoning can’t win the debate, pull the victim card!

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13 minutes ago, hello_nurse555 said:

There are different schools of thought, and I'm not sure why you're asking instead of looking into yourself. Some say that means the body was exposed to the virus and mounted a defense before it latched. Then again we don't know much about the mechanism of the coronavirus or why some individuals are asymptomatic. The WHO went back and forth on whether asymptomatic individuals who tested positive for covid could spread the virus, and I think they settled on asymptomatic individuals don't transmit the virus. 

I noticed I was constantly exposed but didn't get sick for months. Then some peers who were the same started taking the test and had antibodies, so more of us started taking the test out of curiosity. 

It believe it's personal preference on whether you want to take the vaccine after at least 17 months of being sand blasted in the face with covid patients.   That's just how I feel.

I can respect other people's opinions, but being told what to do makes me want to do the opposite, personally. And I know a lot a lot of other hcw's who feel the same, just don't say anything, since going against the talking heads party line leads to a dogpile of bullying. Like we haven't earned our own opinions after all this. But hey to be a nurse is to be abused, really.

I don't know which world you live in, but in my world I am constantly told what to do and being quite intelligent and educated, I follow sensible rules! 

One of the benefits of education, is to realize that you don't know diddly squat and learn some humility! Only an imbecile doesn't understand, that if you are asked to make a paella, you should obtain a recipe and FOLLOW IT! 

You see, people before you has already done the experimentation and derived the recipe! SOMEWHAT AKIN to life and living itself! 

We learn from our parents and gurus and BOOKS etc, because of their previous experiences that essentially HELPS US TO AVOID the pitfalls that can deeply affect us. Society's rules are essentially the same! A set of instructions obtained from experience, encompassing morals, religious teachings, political and legal insights that can all help us function as a successful society! 

But, hey, you are an American and we don't follow rules and let people tell us what to do. We forge our own paths and we are the disrupters, because we are Americans! Right? 

Well, let's see when the bill comes due, how much you mavericks are going to enjoy paying it! Tell the creditors and your compromised organs, WE ARE AMERICANS AND NO ONE TELLS US WHAT TO DO! 

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Can someone tell me how to ignore or block other users? I thought that was an option. ? 

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I mean, he’s got a point. The US is literally the only country where MF HEALTHCARE WORKERS are actually having this conversation. 
 

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3 hours ago, klone said:

I mean, he’s got a point. The US is literally the only country where MF HEALTHCARE WORKERS are actually having this conversation. 
 

“Mericun! Mah rights!!”

THIS! Nurses have a flipping degree in SCIENCE, yet some are doubting that science without providing any other science to doubt the original science…. It is mind blowing and embarrassing.

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7 hours ago, hello_nurse555 said:

. We're probably in for worse soon.

I would agree with this last sentence. We are in for worse. I hope by then more people are vaccinated. NOW Pfizer has FDA approval so the "hesitant" among us hopefully, will go ahead and get the shot. I am sure J/J and Moderna are not far behind.

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8 hours ago, hello_nurse555 said:

Hmmm well my understanding about vaccines is that you are immunized against diseases after. Where did this "Oh well it's just a mild case" become acceptable? So ya it beat the vaccine. And pretty easily if the variant came out the same month as the vaccine. We're probably in for worse soon.

Your understanding of vaccines is wrong. The PRIMARY purpose of vaccines is to save lives. Secondary is to reduce morbidity. "Oh it's just a  mild case" IS acceptable. That's why we don't develop vaccines for mild illnesses like the common cold. 

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9 hours ago, hello_nurse555 said:

Hmmm well my understanding about vaccines is that you are immunized against diseases after. Where did this "Oh well it's just a mild case" become acceptable? So ya it beat the vaccine. And pretty easily if the variant came out the same month as the vaccine. We're probably in for worse soon.

The unvaccinated are in for worse.  The health system is in for worse.  The economy is in for worse.  The children sent unvaccinated into schools are in for worse.  

 Even though humans have never developed long term natural immunity to coronaviruses you FEEL like that is the case now and you feel like immunity is developed without infection.  Almost miraculously immune, in your thinking? 

Why are you comfortable gambling with a vaccine preventable disease in the middle of a pandemic?

9 hours ago, hello_nurse555 said:

Can someone tell me how to ignore or block other users? I thought that was an option. ? 

You can also block dangerous pandemic misinformation rather than embracing it...that would be healthier for everyone. 

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9 hours ago, hello_nurse555 said:

Can someone tell me how to ignore or block other users? I thought that was an option. ? 

Go to your account, then account settings, then account options and you will see the ignored user option.  Just type in their username.  But if you want wisely curated information blocked completely, you will have to block notications from the entire thread and AN also gives you that option.

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10 hours ago, hello_nurse555 said:

Hmmm well my understanding about vaccines is that you are immunized against diseases after. Where did this "Oh well it's just a mild case" become acceptable? So ya it beat the vaccine. And pretty easily if the variant came out the same month as the vaccine. We're probably in for worse soon.

Why a mild case is acceptable: 1. You get to quarentine at home with your creature comforts.  2.  Less likely to spread it to others if you don't realize that you have it.  3.  Don't have get an expensive infusion of monoclonal antibodies.  4.  Don't have to be admitted to a hospital  5.  Don't have to be intubated and isolated from family.5.  Don't have to pay that pesky hospital bill  6.  Don't have to say "I was wrong.  Please everyone, go get vaccinated."

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12 hours ago, jive turkey said:

I've been telling people this for a long time on this thread. The sentiment I get is people shouldn't have an opinion contrary to getting the vaccine and shouldn't have any choice whether they get it or not. 

That's your characterisation of their sentiments and it's not really accurate.  

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