The choice to not take the COVID vaccine I feel is not defendable. The facts are that 99% of hospitalizations/deaths due to COVID are unvaccinated patients currently. This has caused a more severe strain on a already extremely stressed hospital staff, shortage of equipment and services, injury and death from other causes due to delay of care and suffering of everyone involved in the hospitalized COVID patient among other issues. Virologists report delta and other strains are accelerated and created due to the numbers of unvaccinated people in the US. The fact that vaccination rates have only increased about 20% since July with the information available is appalling, while there are 130k new infections daily in the US. This should not be a personal or individual choice and appears due to unfounded anxiety, medical or religious exception and or politics.
In 2015 the developers of ivermectin were awarded the Nobel peace prize
yea... you are wrong...
I'm in the ICU... they have us on speed dial... the family is consulted, explained the benefits of hospice, the medical record number is flipped to hospice and the hospital avoids accountability of a sentinel event.
OK- You had me going there for a minute. I had thought that you were serious. No real nurse is seriously claiming that the fact that this person won a prize somehow relates to the treatment of Covid. What do you really do, and what on earth possessed you to pretend to be a nurse?
But, if you were a real nurse, you would be in luck. Areas that are anti-vax are going to be in big need of hospice nurses.
So many things wrong with the one poster. Hospice at least in my ICU is consulted when a patient is able to enter in patient hospice or able to go home on hospice. If a family decides to terminally wean, ICU puts comfort care orders in and they pronounce death.
Second it is a medical fact that very, very few vaccinated people are dying from the virus. Most that are dying and vaccinated have an autoimmune disorder that makes the vaccine less effective. What the poster is describing does not happen.
People dying in the ICU from covid is not a sentinel event. The fact the poster does not se to understand what a sentinel event actually is makes me doubt them more.
We really need to figure out a way to get the people who spread misinformation on this site off of it.
And now I need to Google these Lizard People. I feel I’m going to go down a rabbit hole.
Anecdotal evidence is not typically high quality, but I'll bite.
Two questions:
What is the prevailing vaccination rate in your hospital's market?
What is the ratio of vaxxed deaths to unvaxxed? (dying patients can get better)
If your area is highly vaccinated, it makes sense you'd see vaxxed deaths.
At an absurd level, if 100% of your population is vaxxed, you'd think that the vaccine was what made COVID deadly, even if only one patient died.
This perverse belief system has nothing to do with evidence.
You are talking to a person who claims that since some vaccinated people get sick, the vaccine is ineffective. While this simplistic thinking might be understandable in a lay person, it is unfathomable in a nurse.
Assuming, it really is a nurse, at some point he or she passed NCLEX. Meaning, they, at some point, had some reasoning ability. That reasoning ability is officially toast.
Obviously this is more disturbing in a nurse. OTOH failing to advocate for vaccination is good for the hospice business. Having a complete disregard for the science around viruses, and working around critically ill patients is obscene.
OK- You had me going there for a minute. I had thought that you were serious. No real nurse is seriously claiming that the fact that this person won a prize somehow relates to the treatment of Covid. What do you really do, and what on earth possessed you to pretend to be a nurse?
But, if you were a real nurse, you would be in luck. Areas that are anti-vax are going to be in big need of hospice nurses.
How do you go around questioning if someone is a nurse when you share literature telling people F you and go F yourself for being concerned about vaccine side effects?
Here's a snippet of the content from a link you shared here as a "well written" response to those hesitant about the vaccine
Oh, you’re afraid of ****** side effects? **** you. You know what has ****** side effects? ****&* aspirin, ****** Tylenol. You could be ******* allergic to pineapple, you ****** ***wit. Everything has side effects. You’re being a big ****** baby with a huge diaper full of ******* diarrhea,
I had a fellow nurse the other day explain to me that the Covid vaccines are all tied into the fact that Covid was invented to facilitate Child trafficking because the 'elites' harvest adrenochrome from children to use as a sort of youth serum, and that Fauci is one of 'the worst' of these child traffickers. And for good measure threw in the claim that the ship that got stuck in the Suez canal was Hillary Clinton's personal child trafficking ship, which was so obvious because her secret service code name was "Evergreen", and the ship had the word "Evergreen" painted on the side. "It was so obvious" as she pointed out.
One thing I will admit about her argument; She has no need to defend it because I can offer no counter-argument to it.
She belongs in a psych ward that is not a person who should be at the bedside.
I am a nurse and I am experiencing intermittent numbness and neurological symptoms on the left side of my body since receiving the first Moderna vaccination 2.5 weeks ago. I also am now experiencing occasional, almost unbearable joint pain and I am afraid. I had a recent check up before being vaccinated and I am healthy.
I took the vaccine out of fear, fear of suffocating to death with covid. I took the vaccine even though I wasn’t convinced of it’s efficacy or safety. I hope these symptoms go away.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 hour ago, Queen Tiye said:
I am a nurse and I am experiencing intermittent numbness and neurological symptoms on the left side of my body since receiving the first Moderna vaccination 2.5 weeks ago. I also am now experiencing occasional, almost unbearable joint pain and I am afraid. I had a recent check up before being vaccinated and I am healthy.
I took the vaccine out of fear, fear of suffocating to death with covid. I took the vaccine even though I wasn’t convinced of it’s efficacy or safety. I hope these symptoms go away.
How can it be that actual medical professionals are once again trying to devour their own? AND in a time that y'all need each other (hashtag nursing shortage anyone?!) Actual bullies within the workforce. Outright Wishing harm and complete failure of life on those who don't see it YOUR WAY? Whatever happened to therapeutic communication? Positive work environments, EVEN under great pressure...? Bully free work zone? Caring for the sick and needy no matter what?
I'm legit concerned for the well being of those patients In your hands that you are "caring for" that may not be eligible for the vaccine or simply do not wish to get it YET.
THIS IS A PANDEMIC. PEOPLE ARE SCARED! You obviously don't care. It is black and white for you. For you to try to give someone facts and gentle encouragement would be too much. These people need consistent answers and encouraging conversations. Instead it is a all out blood bath. Facts on this page are not all correct.
Also... you call someone with an idea that a true evil being is an "reptilian" (bc they cannot fathom the idea that real humans can be that bad) a mental patient? Ridicule this person, yet praise the man with cotton candy hair that says he is coming out as a woman, trapped in a man's body...oh and that he needs to share a shower room with you at planet fitness now. And tell this man congratulations and give him a flag. LOL. Who is the mental patient again? What is really going on here?! Are you not tolerating something or is it me?
Then, this nasty link about effing this and effing that...full of misinformation (in the other direction)! Not funny, but terribly sad. Looks like a 15 year old boy wrote it, and you are essentially passing this note around class snickering. Pathetic-THESE ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE I BAIL OUT ALL THE TIME AT WORK BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THEIR STUFF, but think they do.
Have we not been trained to question authorities/doctors orders and go with our guts? Or to use our critical thinking skills to overcome obstacles and think outside of the box?! If a Nurse doesn't want a shot, support her instead, she knows what she is doing. People can't keep the facts straight..It's too new, the media won't shut up, and everyone has an opinion that they think is fact.
AND WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL FACTS?
Does the shot TOTALLY PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING COVID? NO. (I know several people, including medical professionals, that got covid multiple times, yes, even after the shot.. so..this scares people.."then why get it?")
Does the shot prevent you from spreading covid to others? NO. (You can still spread covid, as usual, so please social distance and where a mask...so... This scares people.."then why get it?")
Does the shot keep you out of the hospital from covid 100%? NO. (There are still people in the hospitals and ICUs after the covid shot, that have covid, and are dying or just really sick...so this scares people.."then why get it?")-btw it is NOT 99% the unvaccinated that are in the hospital.
Has the covid shot been studied longer than a year on people AND every age group, AND do we know if there will be long term side effects that we will face down the road? NO. ( Covid shot is still not approved in any way for your brand new babies or little kids and we can't say for sure what will happen, as it just has not been out long enough...so
..this scares people..."then why get it?")
Will you die without the covid shot? NO!! (You will likely develop natural immunity. Covid is not a death sentence. But you can get really sick...and.. this does not scare people..."then why get it?!")
If people are watching their loved ones/coworkers/patients/whomever suffer or die from this virus and still refuse the shot, what makes you think you can change their minds with your spewing hate?
Stop bullying. Spread love, not hate..or covid.. Encourage the best in every one. Realize anxiety is a huge thing right now. And read the CDC website every once in a while. Can't stand people or want to pick and choose whom you care the best for? You might need to change careers...and hey, You may not even make it tomorrow...whether from covid or a car wreck. What will your legacy be? Hate?
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
2 hours ago, Nursenezz said:
You may not even make it tomorrow...whether from covid or a car wreck. What will your legacy be? Hate?
Please stop spreading uncertainties and doubt about the covid vaccines. Vaccine mediated herd immunity is the best and fastest way to get to the other side of this pandemic.
Please stop spreading uncertainties and doubt about the covid vaccines. Vaccine mediated herd immunity is the best and fastest way to get to the other side of this pandemic.
What will your legacy be?
What were the uncertainties? THE FACT that we really just don't know? ... Life is full of uncertainty. This is what I am sharing, why someone would have hesitancy toward the covid shot. A common point of view that millions share. Some people cannot see the other side of it, which I believe causes the negative conversations. I don't belittle someone who chooses to get the shot, or who declines it. When a patient asks me what I think, I respond with open ended questions and facts from the CDC. I don't push for people to refuse the shot. "This is a personal choice, here are the facts, this is what your doctor thinks." Something like that. That way they do not feel pushed, rushed or forced. If it is their idea, they are more likely to go for it, I think. Eventually scientists will get the shot right. But for now, many wish to not receive the shot (2 series..and probably, eventually, 2 more boosters) in less than 2 years of them making it. ? Give them time..and Herd immunity will happen.
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You need to stop getting your information from experts, and start getting it from FOX.
Those guys have plenty of questions.