This was interesting in the news today...

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https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157480905/spain-menstrual-leave-teen-abortion-trans-laws

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The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.

The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood.  I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time. 

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Crusades said:

It's become part of their lives to hate Trump. Almost like an identity.  They make him more valid that they know. 

Can you clarify what you mean by "more valid".  Even Trump haters know he won the election fair and square and will be the President.  

I'm okay with it being part of my liberal identity not be a Trump supporter.  I try to look at him realistically and can acknowledge what he gets right.  But I can't separate the fact that he lies, he's unprofessional and he's childish and created the biggest hoax of all time when he claimed he won the election.  People can overlook that and he gets to be President.  I can't.  I don't care if my dislike of him emboldens him and his followers more than I know.  Because I'm still scratching my head that he even got the nomination in the first place.   

 

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Tweety said:

Can you clarify what you mean by "more valid".  Even Trump haters know he won the election fair and square and will be the President.  

I'm okay with it being part of my liberal identity not be a Trump supporter.  I try to look at him realistically and can acknowledge what he gets right.  But I can't separate the fact that he lies, he's unprofessional and he's childish and created the biggest hoax of all time when he claimed he won the election.  People can overlook that and he gets to be President.  I can't.  I don't care if my dislike of him emboldens him and his followers more than I know.  Because I'm still scratching my head that he even got the nomination in the first place.   

 

Once again I should have indicated that "they" isn't refering to you. 

Thre are media personalities, social media content creators, celebrities and everyday joes that appear to have a major preoccupation with their extreem destain for Trump. Who spend copious amounts of time and energy on talking about him. Even knowing that this just keeps him in the spotlight and makes him more relevant. Literally a narcissist best friend. However they cannot help themselfs. I used valid incorrectly.  

A good example is a former frequent poster on here who has decided to stop posting after Trump's election victory. However I think the popular vote sealed the deal on his participation.  

None in which is the same as ypur reasonable dislike for Trump. 

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Crusades said:

Once again I should have indicated that "they" isn't refering to you. 

Thre are media personalities, social media content creators, celebrities and everyday joes that appear to have a major preoccupation with their extreem destain for Trump. Who spend copious amounts of time and energy on talking about him. Even knowing that this just keeps him in the spotlight and makes him more relevant. Literally a narcissist best friend. However they cannot help themselfs. I used valid incorrectly.  

A good example is a former frequent poster on here who has decided to stop posting after Trump's election victory. However I think the popular vote sealed the deal on his participation.  

None in which is the same as your reasonable dislike for Trump. 

I don't think it's a pathological need that they can't help themselves.  They genuinely have a tremendous dislike for him and they don't care what you think or that it inadvertently gives him publicity.  

We'll agree to disagree.  

He's the president elect and was in the campaign (rather unhinged and full of rhetoric towards the end) so it's a no-brainer they are going to keep talking about him.  

But it does get tiresome especially from people making money.  People like "Occupy Democrats" make money off of their left wing media sites.

I criticized a nurse influencer that has a huge following and is on various podcasts and makes money constantly degrading the profession, hospitals and management.  

Florida is also a hub of conservative social media influencers that make money spreading nonsense.    https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/06/16/maga-influencers-flock-to-florida-chasing-political-clout-and-connections/

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Congress passes bill to avoid a government shutdown.  But not before Musk spread information about the pending bill. 

I've asked this about Trump but I do wonder if Musk understands he will be fact checked.  I just hope they all settle down and conduct business in a calm matter, that gets things done for the people without spreading misinformation.

Best response was from a Republican.

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"I love you Elon but you need to take 5 seconds to check your sources before highlighting bottom feeders looking for clicks,” Rep. Dan Crenshaw, a Texas Republican, wrote on X.

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-misinformation-government-shutdown-bill-budget-trump-musk-1235b15b425856bf902d0c8133eec222

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Trumps's nominee to head the IRS seems pretty sketchy:

https://www.propublica.org/article/billy-long-irs-trump-certified-tax-business-advisor-missouri?utm_content=buffer0054f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bluesky&utm_campaign=propublica-bsky

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Former U.S. Rep. Billy Long of Missouri, whom President-elect Donald Trump has named his nominee to head the IRS, touts his expertise in tax matters.

He advertises his credential as a certified tax and business advisor, and he adds CTBA to his name on his X profile. That profile encourages people to message him to "save 40% on your taxes.”

Long identifies himself as a certified tax and business advisor, a designation created by a small firm that only requires attendance at a three-day seminar. Credit: X

But tax experts told ProPublica that they have never heard of CTBA as a credential in the tax profession. The designation is offered by a small Florida firm, Excel Empire, which was established just two years ago and only requires attendance at a three-day seminar. That is in stark contrast to the 150 credit hours and the rigorous exams required to become a certified public accountant, a standard certification for tax accountants.

In most tax cases, only lawyers, CPAs and enrolled agents — federally authorized tax practitioners — can represent taxpayers at the IRS.

"The cost of relying on tax advice from somebody that is solely focused on minimizing the tax liabilities that you have — as opposed to somebody that's focused on both minimizing the tax liabilities and complying with the tax law — can be extraordinarily high if you are found to be in violation of the standards,” said Nathan Goldman, an associate professor of accounting at North Carolina State University.

 

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Beerman said:

Our healthcare system is broken. I guess Obamacare didn't fix much of anything.

It fixed people using the ER's for primary care.  That was very expensive. Of course it's only a relative fix for ER's.  It still happens but now it's occasional compared to what it was before.  Young people can afford to have health insurance that they can't get at work.  What woukd you do to make more sustainable without going to a single payor system.  What did Obamacare do to make things worst...specifically?

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Tweety said:

I don't think it's a pathological need that they can't help themselves.  They genuinely have a tremendous dislike for him and they don't care what you think or that it inadvertently gives him publicity.  

We'll agree to disagree.  

He's the president elect and was in the campaign (rather unhinged and full of rhetoric towards the end) so it's a no-brainer they are going to keep talking about him.  

But it does get tiresome especially from people making money.  People like "Occupy Democrats" make money off of their left wing media sites.

I criticized a nurse influencer that has a huge following and is on various podcasts and makes money constantly degrading the profession, hospitals and management.  

Florida is also a hub of conservative social media influencers that make money spreading nonsense.    https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/06/16/maga-influencers-flock-to-florida-chasing-political-clout-and-connections/

 

 

Westboro Baptist Church.  Ugh.  I have not had the displeasure of the knowing who the offensive nurse is and hope to be able to keep it that way.  The Trump family is now Florida's problem to add to everything else they've had to endure.

 

 

subee said:

It fixed people using the ER's for primary care.  That was very expensive. Of course it's only a relative fix for ER's.  It still happens but now it's occasional compared to what it was before. 

Being a ER nurse, I can tell you that's not the case.  At least anecdotally. 

Feel free to prove me wrong. 

subee said:

Young people can afford to have health insurance that they can't get at work.  What woukd you do to make more sustainable without going to a single payor system.  What did Obamacare do to make things worst...specifically?

They can afford the insurance with outrageous deductibles.  That doesn't necessarily make affordable in the long run.  A lot depends on luck.  Just as if they don't have insurance.

I don't know that Obamacare care is worse.  But it's not better.

There are some great ideas out there.  I discussed them years ago when Obamacare was being debated.  Doesn't matter now.  The train to single payor is too far down the tracks.

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Tweety said:

I don't think it's a pathological need that they can't help themselves.  They genuinely have a tremendous dislike for him and they don't care what you think or that it inadvertently gives him publicity.  

We'll agree to disagree.  

He's the president elect and was in the campaign (rather unhinged and full of rhetoric towards the end) so it's a no-brainer they are going to keep talking about him.  

But it does get tiresome especially from people making money.  People like "Occupy Democrats" make money off of their left wing media sites.

I criticized a nurse influencer that has a huge following and is on various podcasts and makes money constantly degrading the profession, hospitals and management.  

Florida is also a hub of conservative social media influencers that make money spreading nonsense.    https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/06/16/maga-influencers-flock-to-florida-chasing-political-clout-and-connections/

Perhaps it wasn't just unhinged rhetoric?  That's why he won? Or at least he's unhinged rhetoric was more credible than radical propaganda at the tome? 

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Crusades said:

Perhaps it wasn't just unhinged rhetoric?  That's why he won? Or at least he's unhinged rhetoric was more credible than radical propaganda at the tome? 

 

Many Republican commentators commented on him being a bit unhinged towards the end, and his own camped implored him to stay on topic.  I believe even Beerman here commented about it.   I find it hard to swallow the idea that it was "more credible" than left wing rhetoric.  That's a bit much for me since lies and misinformation are not credible (from either side).

That being said, obviously people didn't care and have never cared about the validity of what he says and dishonesty coming out of Trump, and his camp and he had two assignation attempts that highlighted left wing rhetoric they claimed lead to violence and were able to successfully switch the telescope away from right wing rhetoric.

For several weeks we discussed the how's and why's of why Trump won.  I'm not interested in that much anymore.  

My point is that Trump is the President elect and is going to stay on his adversaries mind and the articles and comments are going to keep coming for the next four years. He's not a victim.  It comes with being Trump and certainly with being a President and not because we just can't help themselves.  So buckle up butter cup and get used to it.  LOL

True that.  You often see it in posts in these forums.

"Manchin says progressives are out of touch with Americans"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-manchin-calls-democratic-party-toxic-blames-progressives

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