The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.
The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood. I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time.
I'm not defending Trump's lies about sex changes done by schools. So let's get that red herring out of the way.
So, to your example of males competing in female sports. That is something that is actually happening.
It's not fear. It's that many, if not a majority of people, believe that it is wrong. You're right. More Republicans are paying attention to it than Democrats. Because if they don't then nothing is going to fix it. Some Democrats don't see it as an issue and there is nothing to fix. That is the point Manchin is making in that they're out of touch with most Americans. And, you've proven my point about some here being out of touch.
Then their are other spineless Democrats that are quiet because they're scared of upsetting the trans movement.
Spineless sure. They are in full fear of having their entire life/political spine fractured. However considering the radical trans movement, I do not think their fear is unreasonable.
Just because a person cares about one issue doesn't mean that they aren't concerned about other issues and are out of touch. Most of us are aware that most people care more about their grocery bills and making ends than what the Human Rights Campaign or the Million Moms are concerned about.
Just because someone failed at a cause or it's a minority opinion doesn't mean it wasn't worthwhile. Also sometimes it's hard to find out which came first, the chicken or the egg. Did Democrats make it front and center and the right fought back? Or did trans and homophobia from the right make it front and center and Democrats fought back? Either way it's been years in the making. I remember Christians making it front and center when Anita Bryant in the late 70's decided to make gay teachers a cause she was against and went national with it.
It is a bit discouraging that, sports aside, the queer issues were fought back with myths, lies, fear-based rhetoric about grooming, etc. Quite successfully, I might add.
There was very little homophobia after the gay civil right era and before the trans movement. Most trans just want to live their life as the gender they chose. However there is an extreemist radical movement that is the loudest. When basic biology is questioned and social norms are are upended people do not like it. When one political group uses it as a convenient powerful identity politics tool and the other doesn't push back people become fearful. Phobic? Some, but others say reasonably objection. Depends on who you talk to I guess.
There was very little homophobia after the gay civil right era and before the trans movement. Most trans just want to live their life as the gender they chose. However there is an extreemist radical movement that is the loudest. When basic biology is questioned and social norms are are upended people do not like it. When one political group uses it as a convenient powerful identity politics tool and the other doesn't push back people become fearful. Phobic? Some, but others say reasonably objection. Depends on who you talk to I guess.
I really don't know how to respond so I guess I'll just say I read your post and have to leave it there.
I'm not sure how you define "very little homophobia" but as someone that was fired from a job in the mid-80's for not being "manly enough" I would beg to differ. You might be too young to remember the homophobia surrounding the early days of AIDS, but I remember.
But even moving into the 2000's I endured a vote against gay marriage here in Florida. It wasn't until some "radical" couple sued and won a Supreme Court ruling that gay marriage was allowed here. Out of the closet queer people in the military weren't allowed to say they were gay until 2011. Influential pastor Billy Graham, Jr. has long told his listeners about the evils of the homosexual agenda. I could go on and on about the "very little homophobia" after the civil rights movement.
Were the 80's better than the 50's? Yes. Were the 2000's better. Yes, Queer people made many strides and mainstream acceptance was happening.
But I would like to ask what time frame are you talking about that there was very little homophobia? For example when is the gay civil rights era and when is the "trans movement".
Perhaps in your heteronormative world you can define that period as "very little homophobia" but I wish you wouldn't. It's hurtful and false.
It's convenient to blame queer people for phobia though isn't it?
I think most Americans object to the extreems trans "rights" has come to. When ever has it been acceptable to surgically remove or modify healthy body parts? Other than elective cosmetic procedures for adults and are not considered "healthcare"? Or to inject hazardous medications for no medically indicated reason? Before any actual phycological help? Then say denying these "interventions" is causing "transgenocide"? Or parents that object are leading their children to suicide?
Or former men on women's sports? Men in women's intimate spaces?
Does any of that sound reasonable?
As for the queers, didn't they say they only wanted to love who they want and be reconized as a martial couple? Surely not wanting to go onto women's intimate areas? That would be crazy! And yet here we are. And all the bigots of history can now lay claim to "I told you so". The trans movement has not done the LGBTQ community any favors.
The trans issue has gone unchecked for fear of being canceled and the democrats and the Republicans are to blame for not adressing this sooner. Republucans became the reasonable option. They voiced it and Tweety is right, it worked!
I would be interested to know where you are coming up with this, uh, delusion. Surgical removal of healthy body parts in children? No reputable provider is doing that. The AAP and APA recommend comprehensive, gender-affirming care, that begins with counseling. At times, puberty blockers are used to delay the permanent physical changes, but not always. And if AAP (American Association of Pediatrics ) ifrecommending it, then it is medical care. It seems that you casually disregard suicidal ideation expressed by children, and that is sad.
The number of trans athletes is actually very small. Are you convinced that men will undergo surgical procedures so that they can win in sport? Is it possible that someone could so enjoy a sport that they want to continue it, despite public ridicule?
Granted, I haven't been in a women's changing room in a while, but there were always privacy spaces available.
Conservatives seemed convinced that a transperson will suddenly have the urge to sexually molest a woman. Have you ever actually known this to happen? I hear and read about many Republican politicians molesting women. Where is the outrage there?
Your so-called trans movement is a very small population of people who just want to live their lives. They are not looking to take over, indoctrinate, or take advantage of women.
BTW, some teenager girls get nose jobs and breast implants. What do you think of that? All three of my children had orthodontia. Is that to be condemned?
I would be interested to know where you are coming up with this, uh, delusion. Surgical removal of healthy body parts in children? No reputable provider is doing that. The AAP and APA recommend comprehensive, gender-affirming care, that begins with counseling. At times, puberty blockers are used to delay the permanent physical changes, but not always. And if AAP (American Association of Pediatrics ) ifrecommending it, then it is medical care. It seems that you casually disregard suicidal ideation expressed by children, and that is sad.
The number of trans athletes is actually very small. Are you convinced that men will undergo surgical procedures so that they can win in sport? Is it possible that someone could so enjoy a sport that they want to continue it, despite public ridicule?
Granted, I haven't been in a women's changing room in a while, but there were always privacy spaces available.
Conservatives seemed convinced that a transperson will suddenly have the urge to sexually molest a woman. Have you ever actually known this to happen? I hear and read about many Republican politicians molesting women. Where is the outrage there?
Your so-called trans movement is a very small population of people who just want to live their lives. They are not looking to take over, indoctrinate, or take advantage of women.
BTW, some teenager girls get nose jobs and breast implants. What do you think of that? All three of my children had orthodontia. Is that to be condemned?
While we're banning children from having transgender treatment, men and boys in female bathrooms, and men from playing in women's sports because we're so concerned for their well being perhaps we should ban youth pastors. Google "youth pastor arrested" (not even using the word sex) and dozens of stories come up of alleged sex crimes, many very recently.
I really don't know how to respond so I guess I'll just say I read your post and have to leave it there.
I'm not sure how you define "very little homophobia" but as someone that was fired from a job in the mid-80's for not being "manly enough" I would beg to differ. You might be too young to remember the homophobia surrounding the early days of AIDS, but I remember.
But even moving into the 2000's I endured a vote against gay marriage here in Florida. It wasn't until some "radical" couple sued and won a Supreme Court ruling that gay marriage was allowed here. Out of the closet queer people in the military weren't allowed to say they were gay until 2011. Influential pastor Billy Graham, Jr. has long told his listeners about the evils of the homosexual agenda. I could go on and on about the "very little homophobia" after the civil rights movement.
Were the 80's better than the 50's? Yes. Were the 2000's better. Yes, Queer people made many strides and mainstream acceptance was happening.
But I would like to ask what time frame are you talking about that there was very little homophobia? For example when is the gay civil rights era and when is the "trans movement".
Perhaps in your heteronormative world you can define that period as "very little homophobia" but I wish you wouldn't. It's hurtful and false.
It's convenient to blame queer people for phobia though isn't it?
I'm not Gay so I cannot speak from that LGBTQ perspective. I understand and respect that. The incidents you describe are at least 20 years or more old. Back then it wasn't unacceptable to do theses acts as homosexulity was not accepted the way it is today. There are systemic laws and human rights that make those acts illegal today. Now LGBTQ are readily accepted and even celebrated. Gay pride events with open nudity and sexualized performances and costumes. In front of children and police. For an entire week. That's is less homophobia today than before. You think that would have been accepted in 1980? Or even early 2000? Nope. When is it enough?
There is LGBT movement that also feels that the T has gone too far.Bio men in sports, bio men in women's intimate spaces chemical blockers and surgeries for minors. These are the main issues. The demand that they be included in women's intimate spaces and the demand that they can walk freely and nude in these spaces. That people and girls who feel uncomfortable and/or unsafe are the bigots ir the "phobes". That women who have given birth must be referred to "birthing person" and they must say "chest feeding" to cater to the feelings of the very few. And the radical idea that even sex doesn't exist. Then demand that this be taught in schools without parental knowledge or concent. These are all things that have and are happening. This is what the new "homophobes" take issue with. And I'm sorry if that is hurtful.
I would go as far to say even trans has been more accepted. What caused the "phobia" was the demand that everbody else keep up with changing pro bouns and genders. The demand that the medical system consider elective surgeries and dangerous chemicals be deemed as "healthcare". Then purposly accuse people who object to said chemicals and elective surgeries as "denying heathcare to trans people". Purposly manipulating words to insinuate that trans people are being denied general healthcare because they are trans.
I'm sorry but people who have concerns about these things are not bigots or homophobes. Perhaps you cannot see from your homosexual world?
While we're banning children from having transgender treatment, men and boys in female bathrooms, and men from playing in women's sports because we're so concerned for their well being perhaps we should ban youth pastors. Google "youth pastor arrested" (not even using the word sex) and dozens of stories come up of alleged sex crimes, many very recently.
Perhaps we should. It's already illegal to street pray in some places so you may have some luck. What does being pastor have to do with sex crimes? The samething being trans has to do with sex crimes. Neither right? They are criminals.
Try banning open terrorist sympathizers and open Hamas supporters too. Or "protests" for "Palestine " in Jewish communities or near Jewish holy places?
I know you have a more balanced perspective of these things.
Do you mean the Christian Nationalists? Cuz they cray-cray.
Yes they are loud? However I haven't heard anything. Now which is readily accepted by msm politicians and school boards? Right. Not " Christian Nationalist".
Tell me if it is more safe to call out a "Christian Nationalist" or a "radical trans activist"? Who will get canceled quickest?
What is a "Christian Nationalist " anyway? Someone you disagree with? I guess it's better than a Nazi. Progress!
I would be interested to know where you are coming up with this, uh, delusion. Surgical removal of healthy body parts in children? No reputable provider is doing that. The AAP and APA recommend comprehensive, gender-affirming care, that begins with counseling. At times, puberty blockers are used to delay the permanent physical changes, but not always. And if AAP (American Association of Pediatrics ) ifrecommending it, then it is medical care. It seems that you casually disregard suicidal ideation expressed by children, and that is sad.
The number of trans athletes is actually very small. Are you convinced that men will undergo surgical procedures so that they can win in sport? Is it possible that someone could so enjoy a sport that they want to continue it, despite public ridicule?
Granted, I haven't been in a women's changing room in a while, but there were always privacy spaces available.
Conservatives seemed convinced that a transperson will suddenly have the urge to sexually molest a woman. Have you ever actually known this to happen? I hear and read about many Republican politicians molesting women. Where is the outrage there?
Your so-called trans movement is a very small population of people who just want to live their lives. They are not looking to take over, indoctrinate, or take advantage of women.
BTW, some teenager girls get nose jobs and breast implants. What do you think of that? All three of my children had orthodontia. Is that to be condemned?
So you object with surgical removal of body parts of children/minors?
It seems you discount the suicide of detranstioners. And the irreversible surgical/endocrine complications.
Surgical procedures and effective chemicals that could reduce muscle/bone density, respiratory/cardiac capacity as well as hight would be beneficial for men to join women's sports. Know of any? There isn't.
When did anyone ever demand breast implants and cosmetic surgery as "heathcare"? Or claim they were denied "healthcare" because a Dr wouldn't give a 14 year old a boob job? 🤔 or that not doing so will cause suicide?
When several European countries have banned these treatments and surgery's and the American Medical Association has not, that somehow makes you feel it's perfectly safe?
The American Medical Association that's resposible for our current heathcare? That one? Seen the state of our heath? Talk about delusional.
The small "trans movement " that just wants to live their lives is not the trans movement I am refering to. It's the movement that demands extra things that go well beyond basic human rights.That violates other rights and defames anyone that dares to disagree. And infact make the trans people who just want to live their life, lives harder.
You know. Kind of like the white nationalist that that cast a shadow on conservatives?
Did I say I think a trans person will suddenly want to molest a child? What prevents a man from exploiting the trans identity to gain access to women and children? Priest figured it out. What makes you think a dedicated perv wouldn't jump on that?
Or a convicted felon that demands gender affirming healthcare and housed with female inmates?
There is a reason why intimate spaces have been segregated by sex as well as sports. Including prisons and women shelters. Or are those facilities just "transphobes" ?
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Spineless sure. They are in full fear of having their entire life/political spine fractured. However considering the radical trans movement, I do not think their fear is unreasonable.