This was interesting in the news today...

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https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157480905/spain-menstrual-leave-teen-abortion-trans-laws

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The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.

The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood.  I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time. 

subee said:

Clarence could stop down and Trump could replace him with a 24 year old who just passed the bar but is a loyalist who participated in 1/6.  It's pretty sure that the  next 4 years will will only add incompetents to SCOTUS if anyone left.

Thomas is easily the most brilliant legal mind on the Supreme Court and has large shoes to fill.  He isn't easily replaceable. 

 

Incompetents on the SCOTUS?  I think that racist lady who can't define woman already fits that quota.  

subee said:

Young children are not taking drugs.  They are only receiving talk therapy.  By the time that child becomes a teenager, things become very different.  I don't care about the senarios you describe above since I was always allowed to go to a gay guys' slumber parties at his house (the rest were all girls).  The only complaint you list which I think is real is girls having to compete with former boys. I'm not sure that the schools behave as you describe except for the few outliers.  

Nobody should be taking drugs to cosmetically change their appearance.  If you are truly a medical professional, I suggest you find another career.  This sick period in history is going to go along with events such as the Tuskegee experiments or the Nazi experiments on Jews.  Affirming people's delusions while putting young women in danger is sick and should be punished to the full extent of the law.  Any physician or mental health "professional" encouraging these delusions should be in prison.  

Tweety said:

Apparently the sleep over event made the cis child uncomfortable and the parent wasn't given advance notice or choice that her child would be assigned a trans room mate.  I can see why that would be a problem.  The mother was understanding and not acting overly transphobic but was of the opinion that as parents they should have been given a choice whether or not their child would bunk with transgendered girl.  The parent should have had an opportunity to talk to the child and asked how she felt about it.  If the child was uncomfortable then other arrangements could have been made.  

Not "overly transphobic"?  I don't see that they were being transphobic at all.

Tweety said:

While I do believe a trans girl, is a girl and not a boy and shouldn't be bunking with a boy, I'm leaning towards the cis girl and her parents should have been given a choice and notice, and a chance to talk and think about it. The parents would have found out their child would have been uncomfortable with it and stopped it.   Instead it blew up and transphobic people gave their opinions about a "boy being forced into bunking with a girl".  

So,  those who have the opinion that it was wrong for the school to room a male with female, and not notify the female or her parents, are transphobic?  Or, do you have some breakdown of how many of those with that opinion are being reasonable vs those who are just being transphobic?

Maybe if you just "lean" in agreement with the female and her parents you save yourself from being a transphobic. 

subee said:

Outlier case.  It really does appear from your posts that you would appreciate some government interference in such cases.  This was one person who made a bad decision.  They are everywhere and the government can't stop it.

Not only are they a pack of grifters; they are easily controlled.

Once again, you don't know it was an outlier case.  And, no it wasn't "one person making a bad decision".  It was one person or perhaps more adhering to the policy of one of the bigger school districts in the country.

But, putting aside whether this specific situation is an outlier or not, tell us what you think of such a policy.

The government already is involved in these issues.  Mostly, in my state at least, with new laws brought about from transgender advocates. 

Ex WashPo and NYT reporter.  Truly disgusting,  and makes me wonder how many on the left share this kind of view.   We know some spouted off similar thoughts when Trump's head was almost blown off on live TV.

Despicable. 

"Ex-Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz told an outraged Piers Morgan during his show on Monday that she felt "joy" when UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot in New York City.

"I do believe in the sanctity of life and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately," Lorenz told Morgan, who was taken aback by her answer. "Maybe not joy but certainly not empathy."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/piers-morgan-erupts-taylor-lorenz-feeling-joy-over-murder-healthcare-ceo

Specializes in Med-Surg.
Specializes in Med-Surg.

And just like the Republicans feel good about the economy.

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"It's really striking to see how people perceive the world so differently,” said Oliver Allen, senior US economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics.

The post-election shift in the economic perceptions of Republicans and Democrats is not shocking. A similar story has played out following previous changes in power in the White House, including after the 2016 and 2020 elections.

Still, the magnitude of the shift is startling, and researchers say it reflects the county's political polarization.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/09/business/republicans-economy-democrats-trump-election/index.html

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
Beerman said:

Ex WashPo and NYT reporter.  Truly disgusting,  and makes me wonder how many on the left share this kind of view.   We know some spouted off similar thoughts when Trump's head was almost blown off on live TV.

Despicable. 

"Ex-Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz told an outraged Piers Morgan during his show on Monday that she felt "joy" when UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot in New York City.

"I do believe in the sanctity of life and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately," Lorenz told Morgan, who was taken aback by her answer. "Maybe not joy but certainly not empathy."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/piers-morgan-erupts-taylor-lorenz-feeling-joy-over-murder-healthcare-ceo

Shocked to find out that there are haters on both sides?  How naive.

subee said:

Shocked to find out that there are haters on both sides?  How naive.

That so many openly wish for or are "joyful " that a CEO was killed, or that our president-election would be?

I guess I am naive.

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
Beerman said:

Ex WashPo and NYT reporter.  Truly disgusting,  and makes me wonder how many on the left share this kind of view.   We know some spouted off similar thoughts when Trump's head was almost blown off on live TV.

Despicable. 

Slow news day at Fox? 

Specializes in Med-Surg.
Beerman said:

Not "overly transphobic"?  I don't see that they were being transphobic at all.

So,  those who have the opinion that it was wrong for the school to room a male with female, and not notify the female or her parents, are transphobic?  Or, do you have some breakdown of how many of those with that opinion are being reasonable vs those who are just being transphobic?

Maybe if you just "lean" in agreement with the female and her parents you save yourself from being a transphobic. 

All I was saying was that those that were saying the school was allowing a boy to sleep with a girl were being transphobic in their reaction.  

If you want to split hairs about what I said, then I'll back up and agree that the mother wasn't being transphobic, since "overly transphobic" implies there might have been some transphobia involved.   I agreed in the past and still agree the parents and the child should have been made aware ahead of time.

Specializes in Med-Surg.
Beerman said:

Ex WashPo and NYT reporter.  Truly disgusting,  and makes me wonder how many on the left share this kind of view.   We know some spouted off similar thoughts when Trump's head was almost blown off on live TV.

Despicable. 

"Ex-Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz told an outraged Piers Morgan during his show on Monday that she felt "joy" when UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot in New York City.

"I do believe in the sanctity of life and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately," Lorenz told Morgan, who was taken aback by her answer. "Maybe not joy but certainly not empathy."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/piers-morgan-erupts-taylor-lorenz-feeling-joy-over-murder-healthcare-ceo

I think the idea that the murderer of the CEO is a folk hero is quite disturbing and says a lot about that we are a violent country that has lost our soul.

Today I did find out what a "ghost gun" is and I don't suppose we can fix that problem either.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/10/nx-s1-5223368/luigi-mangione-united-healthcare-ceo-ghost-gun

I'm glad to see a discussion and hear stories about insurance companies.  Back in the dark ages, when I was 19, I had good insurance that paid 100% without a copay. I was put in the hospital for four days of tests, some I didn't need and certainly didn't need to be on the hospital for. Columbia (now HCA) was fined a billion dollars for fraud. On and on insurance companies were billed for unnecessary things and things coded fraudulently. Demonize insurance companies for sure, but is it any wonder insurance companies have tried to reign spending in? The medical establishment did it to themselves and we the people suffer.

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