I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
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Beerman said:
Titillating story indeed!
I wonder who would have had this recording and not do anything with it, such as bring it to law enforcement?
There was a Danish video crew documenting Stone during this period of time. Perhaps one of them was also audio recording. The DOJ requested their work product in 2022.
Certainly, one of the biggest complaints with Garland is that his department of justice moves at a glacial pace.
There was a Danish video crew documenting Stone during this period of time. Perhaps one of them was also audio recording. The DOJ requested their work product in 2022.
Certainly, one of the biggest complaints with Garland is that his department of justice moves at a glacial pace.
Wow! Stone knew a film crew was following him around, and he discussed, with a cop no less, that he wanted Swalwell and Nadler dead?
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Beerman said:
Wow! Stone knew a film crew was following him around, and he discussed, with a cop no less, that he wanted Swalwell and Nadler dead?
So the reporting says.
He definitely felt confident enough to talk openly about a plan to overturn the 2020 election around the film crew, and presumably, his friend the cop. You seem surprised by this alleged and conduct from Roger Stone. I think it's very consistent.
Stone says that it's all AI faked, of course. That defense works well for his audience. Stone is just a victim.
Worked for the Jews, right? Camps certainly got that poisoning under control. The Japanese internment camps worked out well too. Good thinking. Every authoritarian should be encouraged to put immigrants and others in camps as a way to solve problems. What could go wrong.
Let us not forget the relocations of indigenous tribes to reservations and the theft of indigenous children. Where do you think hitler got the idea in the first place?
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heron said:
Let us not forget the relocations of indigenous tribes to reservations and the theft of indigenous children. Where do you think hitler got the idea in the first place?
In the months after the 2020 election, Donald Trump leaned on his campaign to launch ad blitzes and legal challenges to the results, insisting to his supporters that the election was " a long way from over.” He even told state and federal courts he was suing in his capacity as a political candidate.
Now, in a bid to derail criminal charges, he's saying the opposite. At least six times in the past two weeks, Trump has declared that the election was " long over" by the time he began pushing state officials and then-Vice President Mike Pence to overturn his defeat.
To recap, while Trump was telling the world that the election was rigged and "a long way from over", he actually belief that it was over and he was simply contacting people about 2020 vote totals as a portion of his normal presidential duties.
This is what dishonest desperation looks like in a corrupt political candidate trying to run from legal accountability.
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It's a new piece of rhetoric that's meant to bolster Trump's assertion of "presidential immunity" from his criminal charges for interfering with the transfer of power. He wasn't a candidate anymore, Trump's new theory goes, so he must have been doing his job as president to ensure elections are fair.
Cult members won't know that this is a complete 180 from Trump's initial defense.
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I enjoyed listening to the three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit regarding Trumps claim immune from prosecution regarding Official Acts while President ....they peppered his lawyer D. John Sauer with tough questions about his assertion that his client could not be prosecuted for actions he took while in the White House. One can listen to PBS audio recording.
The Atlantic now offers The Trump Trials by George T. Conway III, a newsletter that chronicles the former president's legal troubles.
...Judge Florence Y. Pan, a Biden appointee and longtime federal prosecutor in the nation's capital who also served on the Superior Court as well as the United States District Court there. "I understand your position to be that a president is immune from criminal prosecution for any official act, even if that action is taken for an unlawful or unconstitutional purpose. Is that correct?”...
...Pan wanted an answer—to the question she had asked.
Pan: I asked you a yes-or-no question. Could a president who ordered SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political rival [and] who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosecution?
Sauer: If he were impeached and convicted first—
Pan: So your answer is no?
Sauer: My answer is a qualified yes.
The filibustering then continued, with Sauer rambling on about Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel memorandums, James Madison, the abuse of the criminal process. Many words.
Pan interrupted again: "I asked you a series of hypotheticals about criminal actions that could be taken by a president and could be considered official acts and have asked you: Would such a president be subject to criminal prosecution if he's not impeached and convicted? And your answer, your yes-or-no answer, is no?”
Sauer, realizing he was being cornered somehow, tried to avoid the door closing behind him. But Pan was having none of it. Like the experienced prosecutor she is, she insisted on an answer, and wasn't going to let go. (If this judging thing doesn't work out for her, I'd love to see her host Meet the Press someday.)
She and Sauer went around and around on this a few more times. But the damage was done, and Pan's point was devastatingly made—in essence, that Sauer was arguing out of both sides of his mouth. On the one hand, Sauer argued that the Constitution gave the president absolute immunity for his official acts, lest we have political prosecutions of former presidents. On the other hand, if the United States Congress—a political body if ever there was one—effectively gives permission (by impeaching and convicting), well, then, yes, a president can be prosecuted, and—wait for it—he's not absolutely immune....
...As for the special counsel on Tuesday morning, he, too—like everyone else in the courtroom—knew from Judge Pan's withering questioning and Sauer's evasive responses to her that Trump is going to lose. The only question is how quickly it will happen. I have little doubt it will be soon.
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NRSKarenRN said:
I enjoyed listening to the three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit regarding Trumps claim immune from prosecution regarding Official Acts while President ....they peppered his lawyer D. John Sauer with tough questions about his assertion that his client could not be prosecuted for actions he took while in the White House. One can listen to PBS audio recording.
The Atlantic now offers The Trump Trials by George T. Conway III, a newsletter that chronicles the former president's legal troubles.
From the start of his presidential term, President Trump took aim at the Affordable Care Act, consistent with his campaign pledge leading up to the 2016 election. He supported many efforts in Congress to repeal the law and replace it with an alternative that would have weakened protections for people with pre-existing conditions, eliminated the Medicaid expansion, and reduced premium assistance for people seeking marketplace coverage.
The Trump Administration has moved forward on many other health care fronts. The Administration has proposed spending reductions for both Medicaid and Medicare, along with proposals that would promote flexibility for states but limit eligibility for coverage under Medicaid (e.g., work requirements). The President has made prescription drug prices a top health policy priority and has issued several executive orders and other proposals that aim to lower drug prices; most of these proposals, however, have not been implemented, other than one change that would lower the cost of insulin for some Medicare beneficiaries with diabetes, and another that allows pharmacists to tell consumers if they could save money on their prescriptions. The Trump Administration has also moved forward with an initiative to improve price transparency in an effort to lower costs, though it is held up in the courts. President Trump has made other policy changes that have had a direct impact on reproductive rights, immigration, and on other health care issues that convey his priorities for the future.
From the start of his presidential term, President Trump took aim at the Affordable Care Act, consistent with his campaign pledge leading up to the 2016 election. He supported many efforts in Congress to repeal the law and replace it with an alternative that would have weakened protections for people with pre-existing conditions, eliminated the Medicaid expansion, and reduced premium assistance for people seeking marketplace coverage.
The Trump Administration has moved forward on many other health care fronts. The Administration has proposed spending reductions for both Medicaid and Medicare, along with proposals that would promote flexibility for states but limit eligibility for coverage under Medicaid (e.g., work requirements). The President has made prescription drug prices a top health policy priority and has issued several executive orders and other proposals that aim to lower drug prices; most of these proposals, however, have not been implemented, other than one change that would lower the cost of insulin for some Medicare beneficiaries with diabetes, and another that allows pharmacists to tell consumers if they could save money on their prescriptions. The Trump Administration has also moved forward with an initiative to improve price transparency in an effort to lower costs, though it is held up in the courts. President Trump has made other policy changes that have had a direct impact on reproductive rights, immigration, and on other health care issues that convey his priorities for the future.
Thank you. The contrast and comparison is important. In 2023, republican Healthcare legislation has been focused upon forcing women to maintain pregnancies regardless of viability or risk to the mother while Trump takes credit for dumping Roe.
Thank you. The contrast and comparison is important. In 2023, republican Healthcare legislation has been focused upon forcing women to maintain pregnancies regardless of viability or risk to the mother while Trump takes credit for dumping Roe.
We had an interesting case this past week on my unit where a woman had a viable pregnancy but was in heart failure so bad it was feared they both would die if she went to term and the medications she needed to treat her heart failure would harm the baby. The excruciating decision was made to terminate the pregnancy. She did not know she had a heart condition and it was a planned and desired pregnancy. They were devastated and were going to have a funeral for the fetus which was 11 weeks. I'm glad I work in a hospital that is still allowed here in Republican lead Florida to do these procedures. I shudder to think politicians getting in the middle of this obviously medical issue.
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Titillating story indeed!
I wonder who would have had this recording and not do anything with it, such as bring it to law enforcement?