The Story of Jahi Continues

caliotter3 · Mar 18, 2015

Well said, scaredsilly. You summed it up clearly.

Spangle Brown · Mar 18, 2015

OF course we don't know "for sure", since the hospital isn't allowed to respond.

Also, it gets difficult to discuss the track record, when articles tend to report studies from cases that doesn't even resemble Jahi's situation or surgery.

Again, the medical professionals are not allowed to speak about this case.

scaredsilly, BSN, RN · Mar 18, 2015

Spangle, exactly!!! I think that there needs to be a change in the law that released medical professionals from HIPAA regulations when a family chooses to go to the media and make the case public.

RNsRWe, ASN, RN · Mar 18, 2015

The family that scams and cheats others, the family that publicly flaunts the "loot" they obtained from said cheating and scamming, the family that profits off of a dead child, the family that ignores living children and their needs in order to further said profiteering.....that family deserves our scorn and nothing more.

klone, MSN, RN · Mar 19, 2015

Many of us disagree with this because of the way that the scam fam is handling it. Good people-no matter how grief stricken they are-don't publicly beg for money "to take care of Jahi" then go online in public forums to show off MK bags and Ruth Chris dinners!
Good mothers do not allow their children to become morbidly obese and then refuse to follow Dr orders post op, then flog the hospital publicly without letting them have a chance to tell their story. Good mothers also do not leave 3 live children behind in Cali to move to NJ to care for a dead child. Those poor kids are all it takes to make most people despise her. The oldest daughter ended up with a baby of her own after the mom left, the son is now living with his dad (probably better off-but still needs his mother) and the youngest girl is living in an apartment now with her dead sister.
Decent people do not intentionally cause as much chaos as possible in a picu waiting room and publicly laugh about it and state on public forums that they don't care about how uncomfortable they are making other families.
Finally do some research on instagram and look at some of this woman's posts before this all happened. She only wanted to get drunk and kick butts...and the posts were truly awful!
The fraudulent claims and begging for money is only the tip of the iceburg. This family is the scum of the earth!

This post is fraught with judgment and kind of makes me sick.

I'm not saying that the family isn't bad. I actually don't have an opinion. But the bolded really makes me angry - I think it's unfair to categorically say she's a bad mother because of those things you cited. It's SO easy to make judgments, but nobody knows what is truly going on in their heads or what they're dealing with in life.

And no matter how poorly they're handling it, no matter how much they're trying to deflect blame or lash out at others, they are still a family who is grieving.

scaredsilly, BSN, RN · Mar 19, 2015

Klone, we will agree to disagree, because this person made her life public knowledge. She let EVERYONE know exactly what she was doing, why she was doing it, and what her other children were expected to sacrifice for it.

BUT-you are as entitled to your opinion as I am!

FLAlleycat · Mar 19, 2015

Re the hamburger . . . The first mention that Jahi was given McDonald's appeared in "comments" under one of the many online news stories. It was from a "dad whose son was in recovery (or ICU . . . I can't remember) next to Jahi". He wrote that the family was loud and disruptive, many family members were in the area, and that he saw someone give Jahi the hamburger. There were a couple of posts from this dad, and then they suddenly disappeared. This lead some to believe that he was asked not to make any comments in case he would be called as a witness. Of course, anyone can claim to be anyone and say anything online, but this is where the hamburger story originated and has not been confirmed.

Tenebrae, BSN, RN · Mar 19, 2015

when I did my acute placement on our local surgical ward. Often families were asked to wait before coming into the post op area to allow staff to ensure the patient is stable and deal with any issues that may arise prior to the family being there.

Gooselady, BSN, RN · Mar 19, 2015

Many of us disagree with this because of the way that the scam fam is handling it. Good people-no matter how grief stricken they are-don't publicly beg for money "to take care of Jahi" then go online in public forums to show off MK bags and Ruth Chris dinners!
Good mothers do not allow their children to become morbidly obese and then refuse to follow Dr orders post op, then flog the hospital publicly without letting them have a chance to tell their story. Good mothers also do not leave 3 live children behind in Cali to move to NJ to care for a dead child. Those poor kids are all it takes to make most people despise her. The oldest daughter ended up with a baby of her own after the mom left, the son is now living with his dad (probably better off-but still needs his mother) and the youngest girl is living in an apartment now with her dead sister.
Decent people do not intentionally cause as much chaos as possible in a picu waiting room and publicly laugh about it and state on public forums that they don't care about how uncomfortable they are making other families.
Finally do some research on instagram and look at some of this woman's posts before this all happened. She only wanted to get drunk and kick butts...and the posts were truly awful!
The fraudulent claims and begging for money is only the tip of the iceburg. This family is the scum of the earth!

I understand you are entitled to your opinion. It's just that no one else is entitled to your opinion, and this is a public forum. On a public forum, calling a family well known to the public 'scum of the earth' is a misuse of your first amendment rights to free speech. That is my opinion. And though there are no 'let's be professional outside of work' police around here, I feel the need to state as a nurse I do not agree with your judgmentalism and find it appalling that you would make repeated viciously cruel remarks, as a nurse yourself. I want to publicly DISinclude myself from being lumped in with that kind of behavior.

scaredsilly, BSN, RN · Mar 19, 2015

I understand you are entitled to your opinion. It's just that no one else is entitled to your opinion, and this is a public forum. On a public forum, calling a family well known to the public 'scum of the earth' is a misuse of your first amendment rights to free speech. That is my opinion. And though there are no 'let's be professional outside of work' police around here, I feel the need to state as a nurse I do not agree with your judgmentalism and find it appalling that you would make repeated viciously cruel remarks, as a nurse yourself. I want to publicly DISinclude myself from being lumped in with that kind of behavior.

And you also are entitled to your opinion, it seems that there are people who agree with both of us!

I say that because of the empathy I feel for her other children and for the nurses who had to take care of a dead child every day for almost a month at cho and who knows how long at wherever they moved her to before taking her home. I fully believe what I said and my heart goes out to all those people victimized by that woman and her family.

BrandonLPN, LPN · Mar 19, 2015

This post is fraught with judgment and kind of makes me sick.
I'm not saying that the family isn't bad. I actually don't have an opinion. But the bolded really makes me angry - I think it's unfair to categorically say she's a bad mother because of those things you cited. It's SO easy to make judgments, but nobody knows what is truly going on in their heads or what they're dealing with in life.
And no matter how poorly they're handling it, no matter how much they're trying to deflect blame or lash out at others, they are still a family who is grieving.

Im normally in the "don't judge people you don't know" camp, especially when it comes to families such as this, who are obviously undereducated and come from a background of poverty.

But in this case, when you put everything together, it's almost impossible not to judge. They were clearly and coldly and deliberately profiting off Jahi and the media circus surrounding her. They showed off their tacky bling they got as a result shamelessly. There's no excuse for that.

And, no, raising obese children does not make one a bad mother. But refusing to obey the simplest of doctor's orders for the safety of your post-op daughter DOES make you a bad mother. Either that, or the mother is mentally retarded to the point where she does not have the capacity to understand the basics of NPO. There's no excuse for the negligence the family played in the events leading up to Jahi's condition or for the tactless way they behaved since.

scaredsilly, BSN, RN · Mar 19, 2015

Raising obese children doesn't make one a bad mother, but I don't believe for a second that one of the Drs she saw didn't tell her that the weight was causing health issues and it is impossible to believe she tried to do something about it, so that does make her a bad mother.

I was lurking around a facebook page and a woman who claimed to be Nails cousin got on there screaming racist remarks about all white people. It was so disgusting! A nurse who happens to be black posted that the cousin was the racist and that Jahi was dead. This person responded with "dead? Like you will be if I can find out where you are" That's a threat and that also is scum of the earth.

I agree that facts are needed to judge anyone- in this case I think that the facts are out there for anyone who wants to read them.