I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
I agree with Beerman that perhaps outside of Florida people are just getting to know DeSantis. They aren't necessarily liking what they see. His poll numbers have tanked after his announcement. Prior to that everyone was thinking he had the Golden Ticket.
I think one reason is right before he announced, he finished a legislative session where his conservative agenda was passed with much bad publicity elsewhere. He's capturing voters that are to the right of Trump and that's not a lot. He's a bit too far to the right for a lot of voters and even though young republicans here in Florida endorse him, I'm not sure his conservative agenda is popular with young republicans elsewhere.
As expected indictments only make Trump more popular and stronger.
Regardless of the Republican primary outcome, my nurse's gut is telling me to keep a weather eye out for local fascists. And that includes both white supremacists and christian nationalists, of which we have our share here in NM.
Probably because Obama isn't a right wing authoritarian and he certainly didn't govern like one.
LOL, no of course he didn't act like that. He was a left-wing authoritarian.
Not that it was really a secret, but you've just illuminated that your problem isn't really with authoritarianism, but more with the ideology of who is practicing it.
Probably because Obama isn't a right wing authoritarian and he certainly didn't govern like one.
You don't remember the accusations of him being a dictator when he issued all those executive orders that outraged the right?
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Maine Gov. Paul LePage said Wednesday that President Barack Obama is a dictator.
"Let me be very clear. I believe the President of the United States, Barack Obama, is a dictator,” he said at a news conference. "I think he has failed the American people. He has not worked with the Congress.”
Why is @BarackObama constantly issuing executive orders that are major power grabs of authority?
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Remember when Republicans were dead set against sweeping executive actions? Remember when they called Barack Obama an imperial president, and worse, for issuing a string of executive orders, presidential memoranda and national security directives?
That was so yesterday.
In his first 10 days in office, President Trump issued 20 executive actions, more than any incoming president in the modern era. And for the most part, Republicans have adopted a position of silence or support, conveniently forgetting their past practice of denouncing executive decrees as a threat to constitutional governance.
But now because of Trump's hypocrisy they can't criticize Biden who out did Trump
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In his first two weeks in office, President Biden has signed nearly as many executive orders as Franklin Roosevelt signed in his entire first month. And President Roosevelt holds the record.
I remember the baseless accusations about authoritarian Obama. Just like the claims about Biden, evidence would strengthen their arguments. Hypocrisy hasn't stopped the GOP from projecting Trump's corruption and dishonesty onto Biden.
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LOL, no of course he didn't act like that. He was a left-wing authoritarian.
Not that it was really a secret, but you've just illuminated that your problem isn't really with authoritarianism, but more with the ideology of who is practicing it.
You could help your argument about authoritarian behavior by basing it in something beyond right wing angst about Obama doing something that all presidents do. Simply calling him a left wing authoritarian isn't terribly compelling in the absence of some evidence. For instance, I don't recall Obama saying that only he could fix something or that he was the retribution for something and he certainly never suggested that we should suspend the constitution to benefit himself.
Now that you've decided what my "problem" is maybe you could tell the thread what your problem is... or would you prefer that other posters did that? I'm guessing that nobody wants these threads to take the personally toxic direction you just steered it toward. You should stop. You always have the option to attempt to insult me in private message. Maybe that's not as rewarding for you?
I remember reading about that conplaint that Obama wouldn't work with congress. It made me laugh. The congress that obstructed his every move in an effort to make him a one-term president. I wonder what they thought would happen?
Obama had one of the most belligerent congresses since I've been paying attention to such things. It was so toxic that any semblance of cooperation was completely eroded and anyone that sided with Obama paid a price.
It also seemed the first time that I can remember that someone using executive orders was labeled a dictator, authoritarian and "the Imperial President". Like TMG says, all presidents do it. I think only one president in our history didn't.
Anyway, it got me thinking and looking into it and Bush prior to Obama had his accusations of being authoritarian too. I read some blistering articles. One interesting one talks of the 2000 to 2009 decade. ( I tried to look up Bill Clinton being an authoritarian and all that came up was his sexual history. LOL)
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As a result, the democratic principles which we hold dear have suffered a massive blow in the first ten years of the 21st century, although that is not the main problem. The deep erosion of our civil liberties is to be lamented, and should be resisted, however difficult the political climate, but the most painful truth about the last decade is that it marks an undoing of democracy so severe that without concerted and deliberate action by the people in this country — and, one hopes, by their elected leaders — the values which defined us, before the events of 9/11 allowed the Bush administration to reshape our perception of executive power, may never be regained.
I only grew to like Obama after he was gone and a REAL authoritarian got the job. I don't ever remember Obama saying "Only I can fix it." I believe that the Fox crowd would never accept a superiorly educated black man, that they couldn't manipulate, as their president. I did a drive by of his house while visiting the University of Chicago campus and was impressed with how modestly he lived as a Senator...just a brick row house adjacent to the campus. Of course, it's Chicago, so a little row house is extremely expensive. But when you see Trump's Louis X!V apartment in the Trump Tower, you know that an ahole with more money than brains and taste, occupies the place.
If I remember correctly, the first item of note that Obama signed was the Lily Ledbetter Act, promoting fair pay. The first thing that Trump signed, was the Muslim ban. One of these things is not like the other. I did not feel compelled to join a demonstration protesting fair pay. I show up at a demonstration at a Border Crossing to protest the Muslim ban.
I perused the executive actions signed by Obama and Trump. A lot of them are pretty mundane, like establishing a White House Office on Women and Girls, or the White House Office on American Innovation.
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I think DeSantis is suffering from a bad case of reality shock. He may or may not be able to get over it.