The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

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Wonder if presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr ever took a biology class or was awake if class taken as human sex is determined at the moment of conception joining male sperm to female egg, and therefore not altered by endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure to children later in life.   Anyone aware of revised reproductive science?

 

Troubling days for his campaign.

CNN 7/13/23

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. repeatedly suggested that chemicals in water are impacting sexuality of children

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...Endocrine disruptors are chemicals that interfere with the body's hormones and endocrine system, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Such chemicals are commonly found in pesticides and plastic, and can affect reproductive functions and increase the risk of obesity. Kennedy on multiple occasions misconstrued endocrine disruptors' studied ability to cause some male frogs to become female and produce viable eggs, suggesting that these chemicals could have similar effects on children and change their sexuality.

CNN spoke to multiple experts who said there is no link between endocrine disruptors and children's gender and sexuality. While sex in in frogs is determined by environmental factors such as temperature and chemicals, Dr. Andrea Gore, professor of pharmacology and toxicology at University of Texas at Austin, said the sex of humans is determined at the moment of conception, and cannot later be altered by endocrine-disrupting chemicals

 

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: "I Was The First Person Censored By The Biden Administration," WH Gave An Order To Twitter & facebook

It's Kennedy's vaccine claims that aroused concern of government scientists questioning his claims + promotion of vaccine disinformation on internet

The most dangerous claims Robert F. Kennedy Jr. makes about vaccines — and why he's dead wrong

Watched 3/4 his April campaign kickoff. Longer he spoke, more I had concerns of health issues along with differences in views.... count my consideration out.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. press dinner devolves into 'screaming and polemic farting': NY Post

 

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NRSKarenRN said:

Wonder if presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr ever took a biology class or was awake if class taken as human sex is determined at the moment of conception joining male sperm to female egg, and therefore not altered by endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure to children later in life.   Anyone aware of revised reproductive science?

 

Troubling days for his campaign.

CNN 7/13/23

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. repeatedly suggested that chemicals in water are impacting sexuality of children

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: "I Was The First Person Censored By The Biden Administration," WH Gave An Order To Twitter & facebook

It's Kennedy's vaccine claims that aroused concern of government scientists questioning his claims + promotion of vaccine disinformation on internet

The most dangerous claims Robert F. Kennedy Jr. makes about vaccines — and why he's dead wrong

Watched 3/4 his April campaign kickoff. Longer he spoke, more I had concerns of health issues along with differences in views.... count my consideration out.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. press dinner devolves into 'screaming and polemic farting': NY Post

 

He had serious emotional problems all his life starting with a rotten family life.  We would read about his wife Mary and her DWI charges in the local newspaper. He was an open philanderer before she hung herself at their house.  Now I have read that there are measurable brain changes in conspiracy theorists.  If anyone has a brain changed by trauma, it would be him.  Fortunately for most of the rest of us, we can see a defective person so there won't be any chance of his election.  But I hate to see other distracting Democrats with big egos enter in the primaries.  The side of sanity will, once again, need every single vote that they can to squeak by in 2024 and we have to have a consistent message which can't come from a deranged person.  He is as deranged as Trump.

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More Robert Kennedy vaccine commentary:

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https://post.news/@/gtconway3d/2Sd6jI8N9aajsOPz33pQZZXvuUG#conversation

National Review:   RFK Jr. Argues Covid-19 May Have Been Engineered to Attack 'Caucasian and Black People'

Kaiser Family Foundation:  COVID-19 Cases and Deaths, Vaccinations, and Treatments by Race/Ethnicity as of Fall 2022\

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While disparities in cases and deaths have widened and narrowed over the course of the pandemic, age-adjusted data show that AIAN, Black, and Hispanic people have had higher rates of cases and death compared with White people over most of the course of the pandemic and that they have experienced overall higher rates of infection, hospitalization, and death. Data point to significantly increased risks of COVID-19 illness and death for people who remain unvaccinated or have not received an updated bivalent booster dose. During the initial vaccine rollout, Black and Hispanic people were less likely to receive vaccines than their White counterparts. However, these disparities have narrowed over time and reversed for Hispanic people, though they persist for Black people. Despite this progress in initial vaccination uptake, overall uptake of the updated bivalent booster dose has been slow so far, and there have been racial disparities in receipt of these booster doses, with eligible Black, Hispanic, and NHOPI people about half has likely to have received an updated booster than their White counterparts. Data also point to disparities in receipt of COVID-19 treatments, with patients of color less likely to receive oral antivirals, including Paxlovid, compared to White patients. Overall, these data show that although the pandemic has contributed to growing awareness and focus on addressing racial disparities....

 

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During one wave I remember Japan sounding the alarm their hospital systems were near collapsing under the weight of covid.  India during their wave ran out of oxygen.  Even Korea that was praised for it's covid response had a period when hospitals and crematoriums were strained.

Race was indeed a factor in covid deaths in the US for sure, as were obesity rates, comorbidities, access to healthcare and systemic racism in healthcare, etc.

Still, that's like saying obesity is a bioweapon:

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Among individuals aged ≥20 years in 2017-2018, prevalence rates for obesity were highest in African American people (49.6%) compared with other racial groups (e.g., non-Hispanic White, 42.2%), and rates were higher in African American women (56.9%) than in African American men (41.1%) [(1)].

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/oby.23640#:~:text=Among individuals aged ≥20,%) [(1)].

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Obesity prevalence varies significantly among Asian American subgroups. Overall, Asian Americans had a 11.7% obesity prevalence, but rates varied from as high as 16.8% in Filipino Americans and 15.3% in Japanese Americans to 6.5% in Chinese Americans and 6.3% in Vietnamese Americans.

https://acpinternist.org/weekly/archives/2022/10/04/4.htm#:~:text=October 4%2C 2022-,Obesity prevalence varies significantly among Asian American subgroups,and 6.3% in Vietnamese Americans.

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NRSKarenRN said:

Love how he threw out that "Furin cleave docking site."  Makes him sound so desperate to manipulate other people.  He thinks the rest of us are really stupid...of course, about half of the time he would be correct:)

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The centrist group No Labels signaled on Monday it will present a candidate for a third party presidential ticket by Super Tuesday if it's clear by then the choices will be former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden — and if the group sees public support for an alternative.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/17/no-labels-coming-out-party-00106714

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Tweety said:

It's illogical and dangerous during a struggle against right wing authoritarians and fascism. 

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Chatter I heard past 2 days watching TV and cable news shows was that Trump did not prepare properly to staff his incoming administration --- explains his "poor candidates" mantra.  Remember that he threw out Chris Christie's transition book? 

Well Republican power brokers  are preparing Project2025: Presidential Transition Project  which can be used by ANY Republican that wins nomination as "Preparing Political Appointees to be Ready on Day One".   The  Washington, D.C. Heritage Foundation is behind this effort.

Per their 2025 Mandate for Leadership, The Conservative Promise document

 

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The great challenge confronting a conservative President is the existential need for aggressive use of the vast powers of the executive branch to return power— including power currently held by the executive branch—to the American people.
Success in meeting that challenge will require a rare combination of boldness and self-denial: boldness to bend or break the bureaucracy to the presidential will and self-denial to use the bureaucratic machine to send power away from Washington and back to America's families, faith communities, local governments, and states....

 As such, the authors express consensus recommendations
already forged, especially along four broad fronts that will decide America's future:
1. Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children.
2. Dismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people.
3. Defend our nation's sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats.
4. Secure our God-given individual rights to live freely—what our Constitution calls "the Blessings of Liberty.

....The next conservative President must make the institutions of American civil society hard targets for woke culture warriors. This starts with deleting the terms sexual orientation and gender identity (“SOGI”), diversity, equity, and inclusion (“DEI”), gender, gender equality, gender equity, gender awareness, gender-sensitive, abortion, reproductive health, reproductive rights, and any other term used to deprive Americans of their First Amendment rights out of every federal rule, agency regulation, contract, grant, regulation, and piece of legislation that exists....

 

 

Their Presidential Administration Academy

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covers topics ranging from how to identify appointee positions for which you qualify to navigating the necessary background and security clearance processes to recognizing and addressing the dangers of the administrative state. Potential appointees will learn the intricacies of the federal budget process, how to work with the media, managing congressional and stakeholder relations, the federal procurement process, and dozens of other topics that provide the knowledge and skills you'll need to be an effective presidential appointee.

NY Times 7/17/23

Trump and Allies Forge Plans to Increase Presidential Power in 2025

The former president and his backers aim to strengthen the power of the White House and limit the independence of federal agencies.

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Michigan Charges 16 in False Elector Scheme to Overturn Trump's 2020 Loss

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Among those facing felony charges was Meshawn Maddock, a Trump ally and a former co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party.

Charges include

  • conspiracy to commit forgery
  • forgery
  • conspiracy to commit littering and publishing

https://post.news/@/gtconway3d/2SlmrEODjsGop5r7PysqUXRJObg

 

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Other fake electors have appeared before the January 6th  DC grand Jury

Nevada 'fake electors' appear before D.C. grand jury investigating Jan. 6

Special counsel trades immunity for fake elector testimony as Jan 6 probe heats up

Hope PA goes after those involved in our fake elector scheme or are heard by DC grand jury:  How Pennsylvania played a role in a fake elector scheme during the 2020 election   as trying to deny PA citizens completed votes.

 

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NRSKarenRN said:

Chatter I heard past 2 days watching TV and cable news shows was that Trump did not prepare properly to staff his incoming administration --- explains his "poor candidates" mantra.  Remember that he threw out Chris Christie's transition book? 

Well Republican power brokers  are preparing Project2025: Presidential Transition Project  which can be used by ANY Republican that wins nomination as "Preparing Political Appointees to be Ready on Day One".   The  Washington, D.C. Heritage Foundation is behind this effort.

Per their 2025 Mandate for Leadership, The Conservative Promise document

 

 

Their Presidential Administration Academy

NY Times 7/17/23

Trump and Allies Forge Plans to Increase Presidential Power in 2025

The former president and his backers aim to strengthen the power of the White House and limit the independence of federal agencies.

Fascism consolidates power.  

Notice that they are telling their voters that they will be dismantling the administrative state to return power to the people.  The people should think about how the absence of the "administrative state" will cripple the power of the people.  

Would you guess that none of the authors of this republican plan would want the current administration to take these actions right now?

These are perilous times.  It's a shame that this sort of fascist thinking doesn't inspire the third party people to work against elevation of right wing extremism rather than dividing a vote.

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Look what showed up in my YouTube feed this morning.  

I heard long bits of the speeches delivered at that event and chuckled at her speaking against improving our infrastructure or education or health systems.  It makes a great political ad for Biden and Harris though. 

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