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OP, you are very lucky she cared enough to tell you.

Take heed, listen when a nurse tells you what's up about nursing - it's gonna sound totally bat**** crazy. This is why lots of us keep our mouths shut. Almost everyone would like to warn you out of it, but they just feel you will think they are totally nuts. You'll see as you continue on, lots of strange looks and awkward silence or, "Oh really? that's great. Nursing is a great profession" LOL... these comments are your tip-off.

gonzo1, ASN, RN

Specializes in CEN, ED, ICU, PSYCH, PP. Has 17 years experience.

I have been in nursing for almost a decade now. And I have to say "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times". Am very glad I did it as a second career. So rewarding and educational. But there have been a lot of tears too. Mean doctors, mean families/patients. But the very saddest is the mean nurses who bully their peers.

That said I am glad I did it. It has changed me, and my life for the better. And there are jobs out there, but you will have to seek them out and probably have to move to some God for saken place. I would do it again.

yuzzamatuzz

Specializes in Pediatrics, Step-Down. Has 5 years experience.

So I went to my GP's private clinic today to get blood work, a PPD round, and antibody titers done for nursing school which I'll be starting this coming Fall. Upon meeting with his nurse, I told her I needed all of this done for nursing school. She blankly stared at me for a good three seconds and then asked: "Why in the world are you going to nursing school?". I wasn't sure what she meant by that, so I asked her to clarify. She said "Well, you're a young guy with flawless English skills. What the heck are you getting yourself in to?" (This Nurse is a Russian immigrant, whose English skills are not perfect. I'm Russian too, but came here at a very young age unlike her. I guess a lot of Nurses in New York City are immigrants that lack great language skills so they choose nursing as a "last resort" profession apparently?). She went on to explain to me how nobody is hiring right now, and that hospitals are closing. She assumed I was going for an Associates degree, but the program I'm entering is for the BSN. I told her this, and then she questioned why I didn't go for PA or PT instead. I told her Nursing is what I truly wanted to do, and she smirked and said "Okay, you don't understand the situation yet. You'll see."

:confused:

Not that I was discouraged by this, but I found it interesting how bitter some people can be against their own profession. Especially a nurse, who knows that there is a dire need for people to enter the profession, especially as many baby-boomer nurses are going to retire in the coming years.

Have you ever had people try to discourage you when you told them you were going into nursing? And do you regret not taking their advice?

I think I know what I'm getting myself into (hopefully), and I'm mentally prepared. I just hope that at some point in the future I won't end up hating my job like she does...

My initial thought was that she is not an RN, RNs rarely work in doctors offices. And I am quite surprised she admitted to telling you she failed the NCLEX 3 times too. My entire nursing class passed the NCLEX the first time. Chances are she didn't go to a good school. The NCLEX in 2011 had an 89% pass rate in 2011 for first time BSN takers. You can see for yourself:

https://www.ncsbn.org/Table_of_Pass_Rates_2011.pdf

I am a nurse in NYC. It is true that the job market here is not great. But isn't that true about any job in any city right now? You are going to need to work hard to get a job here but you can definitely do it without knowing someone. I am not from anywhere near NYC, never did clinicals here, never knew anyone here. But I wanted to work in NYC so I was aggressive applying to jobs after graduation and I landed an interview right away. I now work in pediatrics at a major NYC teaching hospital. My hospital does not shy away from new grad nurses, you just have to be aggressive to get the job. I think it would be silly to choose not to do nursing just because there is not an abundance of jobs for you to choose from.

It is totally not true that all nurses in NYC are foreign, don't speak good English, and do nursing as a last resort. That is a completely biased and incorrect statement that she made. Most of the nurses on my floor grew up in the America. A few lived in hispanic countries for their childhood. Everyone speaks perfect English. Some speak perfect Spanish as well, which is more of an asset than anything (I wish I could speak two languages!). Hospitals won't hire people who don't speak fluent English because they won't be able to communicate with patients.

Lastly, I think this nurse was very rude to tell you all this and then just tell you that you'll see what she means. Clearly she isn't happy with her job, that doesn't mean she has to ruin yours. Personally I love my job. There are days I hate it, but I would never give it up. I can't imagine being anything but a nurse. Please do not let this nurse scare you away from a wonderful profession.

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma. Has 40 years experience.

so i went to my gp private clinic today to get blood work, a ppd round, and antibody titers done for nursing school which i'll be starting this coming fall. upon meeting with his nurse, i told her i needed all of this done for nursing school. she blankly stared at me for a good three seconds and then asked: "why in the world are you going to nursing school?". i wasn't sure what she meant by that, so i asked her to clarify. she said "well, you're a young guy with flawless english skills. what the heck are you getting yourself in to?" (this nurse is a russian immigrant, whose english skills are not perfect. i'm russian too, but came here at a very young age unlike her. i guess a lot of nurses in new york city are immigrants that lack great language skills so they choose nursing as a "last resort" profession apparently?). she went on to explain to me how nobody is hiring right now, and that hospitals are closing. she assumed i was going for an associates degree, but the program i'm entering is for the bsn. i told her this, and then she questioned why i didn't go for pa or pt instead. i told her nursing is what i truly wanted to do, and she smirked and said "okay, you don't understand the situation yet. you'll see."

:confused:

not that i was discouraged by this, but i found it interesting how bitter some people can be against their own profession. especially a nurse, who knows that there is a dire need for people to enter the profession, especially as many baby-boomer nurses are going to retire in the coming years.

have you ever had people try to discourage you when you told them you were going into nursing? and do you regret not taking their advice?

i think i know what i'm getting myself into (hopefully), and i'm mentally prepared. i just hope that at some point in the future i won't end up hating my job like she does...

i am going to say this with the best for you in my heart. there is no dire need for nurses right now hospitals are not hiring right now. hospitals are closing. maybe she was trying to help a younger generation and compatriot. as i ahve psotexd in other posts.....

sometimes it isn't negativity....it's reality. there is no nursing shortage. right now......there are multiple applicants for every position and many hospitals have hiring freezes. it is however, highly variant and a willingness to re-locate will help.

has the nursing shortage disappeared?

it's that time of year again. graduating nursing students are preparing to take the nclex and are looking for their first jobs. this year, many are finding those first jobs in short supply.

reports are rampant of new graduates being unable to find open positions in their specialty of choice, and even more shockingly, many are finding it tough to find any openings at all.

these new rns entered school with the promise that nursing is a recession-proof career. they were told the nursing shortage would guarantee them employment whenever and wherever they wanted.

so what happened? has the nursing shortage--that we've heard about incessantly for years--suddenly gone away?

the short term answer is clearly yes, although in the long term, unfortunately, the shortage will still be there. the recession has brought a temporary reprieve to the shortage. nurses who were close to retirement have seen their 401(k) portfolios plummet and their potential retirement income decline. they are postponing retirement a few more years until the economy--and their portfolios--pick up.

many nurses have seen their spouses and partners lose their jobs and have increased their hours to make ends meet for their families. some who left the profession to care for children or for other reasons have rejoined the workforce for similar reasons.

in addition, many hospitals are not hiring. the recession brought hiring freezes to healthcare facilities across the country, and many are still in effect. help wanted ads for healthcare professionals dropped by 18,400 listings in july, even as the overall economy saw a modest increase of 139,200 in online job listings.

for the rest of the article http://www.healthleadersmedia.com/co...sappeared.html

nurses are talking about: jobs for new grads

the big lie?losing our skills

the holy grail

take a job, any job

get out of the hospital

back to school?

give us a chance

without a doubt, the main source of frustration experienced by recently graduated and licensed but still unemployed nurses is what could be called "the big lie."in other words, the television commercials that encourage young people to become nurses -- and then abandon them for months (or years) without employment; and the educators who tell them that the associate's degree is perfectly adequate to guarantee employment, that they will have their pick of jobs when they graduate, and that there is plenty of time to get a bsn later on. who knows whether it is greed, ignorance, or wishful thinking that underlies the fairy tales told to nursing students about their future job prospects? whatever the motivation, the disillusionment of our new grads is palpable. the jobs they expected after all of their hard work just haven't materialized, and some grads are getting pretty desperate.

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be a nurse...if you can

not too long ago, the threat of a growing nursing shortage prompted thousands of prospective students to choose nursing as a career, and nursing schools rapidly filled to capacity. nursing was frequently referred to as a "recession-proof" career, and the outlook for finding a job after graduation was rosy.

experience and employment: the vicious cycle

now, the bloom, as they say, is off the rose. it seems that many of our new grads are stuck in that perennial dilemma: they can't get a job without experience, and they can't get experience without a job. this situation was not anticipated by thousands of nursing students who were told, often repeatedly, that a global nursing shortage practically guaranteed employment for them.

consider, for example, the situation faced by new graduates in california. a survey of hospitals by the california institute for nursing & health care found that as many as 40% of new graduates may not be able to find jobs in california hospitals, because only 65% of the state's potential employers were hiring new graduates and generally planned to hire fewer new graduates than in previous years. overwhelming numbers of new graduates submitted applications for the few available positions for new graduates. it wasn't that the hospitals weren't hiring at all, but that they wanted nurses with experience.

what happened to the jobs?

most experts blame the crumbling economy for ruining the job prospects of new graduate nurses around the country, but as usual these days, the truth is more complex.

uneven distribution. the demand for nurses was supposed to exceed the supply by the year 2010.the question of whether we truly have a nursing shortage right now is a fair one. the answer, it seems, is "it depends." apparently, it depends on where you live and where you are willing to work. neither the distribution or supply of nurses, or the demand, is uniform. some geographic (mostly rural) areas have a shortage of nurses, whereas some urban locations are witnessing an oversupply of nurses. new graduates seeking jobs in these regions will face a very competitive job market.

economic recession. the shrinking job pool is widely believed to be a consequence of the declining us economy. temporarily at least, economic pressures and job losses in all industries have induced thousands of experienced but aging nurses to forego retirement and even increase their working hours to support their families.

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i am not stepping on your dreams. "praemonitus praemunitus" forwarned is forarmed. don't let this deter from your dreams for in knowledge there is power. start networking now. volunteer, work as a cna. be the best nurse you can be.

i wish you the best on your nursing journey.:loveya:

grownuprosie

Has 1 years experience.

I am a nursing student. (Just had my last day of my first year!) I think it is important to hear how current nurses feel about their jobs. Every student should know what the job outlook is for them. How hard they will have to work to get that first job that will probably be LTC nocs 75 miles from home. I dont like what i hear form people about how "nursing is recession proof" and how they make so much money. A reality check is in order. Do some research and really get to know your chosen profession. This board is a great place for that. If after that, you are still all in, thank the naysayers for their input and change the subject.

NeoPediRN

Specializes in Pediatrics, ER. Has 6 years experience.

She's giving you honest advice. It's a terrible market right now and I know many nurses who got their licenses, job searched for 2 years and then went into another field because there just isn't any work. If I could do it all over again I would have gone right for the PA I think.

JBudd, MSN

Specializes in Trauma, Teaching. Has 39 years experience.

I like nursing. I like what I do. I am not very happy with the current situation where I work, which is a trend in healthcare today; but nothing ever stays the same forever. I still like my coworkers and my patients (well, most of them...I do work in an ED!). I would do it again, I have been doing it for more than 30 years.

There aren't many jobs for anyone today, not just nurses. Should you quit going to school just because all new grads have a tough time? I would't go for large student loans, but other than that, don't let anyone stop you from doing what you want to do with your life.

If you have to relocate, do it! and learn to be content whereever you find yourself.

RockinChick66

Specializes in LTC, medsurg. Has 10 years experience.

Go for nursing and don't let anybody talk you out of it!!!!

I let some one talk me out of it, went back to school 10

years later and don't regret going for nursing.

It's a tough job but so is every thing I've done in my

life. The only thing I regret is listening to this so

called nurse that I LET Talk me out of what I think is

a great career!!!

Good luck!!!!

...wow @ all the negativity in this thread.

Those of you who would dissuade anyone from entering nursing, would you please explain your personal reasons for doing so?

At this point it does NOT matter to me. Upon entering college, I wasn't sure why I wanted to do nursing exactly and I pretty much got 2 C's in the psychology pre-requisite courses, and completely FAILED anatomy/physiology 1. I kind of got my stuff together and started over, re-took the class, and pumped out almost all A's and a few B+'s to obtain an associates degree in Biology. I transferred to a respected 4-year school and continued my hard work; I was one of 14 people (out of a lecture hall of a total of 440) to recieve an A in anatomy/physiology 2. Same story with Orgo and Microbiology. I also scored high above the 99th percentile in the nursing school entrance exam through rigorous study. I have worked SO hard to get accepted into this program (one of the most respected in the country), and nothing brought happiness to me more than seeing that acceptance email for the first time. It's truly a dream come true, and I'm not willing to let anything stand in my way from making nursing my life-long career.

BlueDevil,DNP, DNP, RN

Specializes in FNP, ONP. Has 25 years experience.

It is clear now, ("At this point it does NOT matter to me") that you only wanted positive reinforcement. Not sure why any of us should waste additional time sharing our thoughts.

It won't change my goals is all. I'm just curious why the lot of you feel the way you do.

grownuprosie

Has 1 years experience.

There are about a million posts about why people are sick of nursing or hate nursing on these boards. Please read them. You will learn a lot. You can see why :some: nurses think going into nursing is a bad idea. You will also see people that might as well be cheer leaders for the profession. Even if it will not change your mind, it is worth knowing what to expect. Check out the other threads.

Stephalump

Specializes in Forensic Psych. Has 2 years experience.

If you're just looking for perspectives for personal amusement, people have stated their feelings about the profession ad nauseum all over the site. Try the search function.

it sounds like you feel strongly about it, so great - go on with it!! but nursing is a hard, demanding profession and it's full of negativity because most of the time hospitals are understaffed, over worked, underappreciated. abused by patients and docs. that being said, i can't think of anything else i'd rather do for a paycheck. my own step mother (an rn), as well as my family nurse practitioner also tried to talk me out of going to school.

sauconyrunner

Specializes in Emergency. Has 11 years experience.

It won't change my goals is all. I'm just curious why the lot of you feel the way you do.

I think the reason people feel the way they do is that they have been exposed to the reality that is Nursing, and it is a MUCH different reality than anything you learn in Nursing School.

i do think from all of your posts you show a bit of misunderstanding about Nursing in general. Firstly, there is no Dire need for nurses at this point. I think the pendulum will swing into shortage, again in the next 10 years, but not in the next 4. That is reality. Secondly, as far as regular nursing goes, it really matters not if you go to a prestigious school or just your local community college. No one cares. They only care that you passed the Board exam and have a license. When i went to school, i too focused on the BSN program and was told by my professors that it mattered, and that I would be preferentially hired etc. Truth be told, I graduated in a shortage year. We were all hired...ASN, BSN. No one cared where I went to school. If you go to Grad school, then it will be important, but as far as landing a JOB, not so much. They don't care about your GPA, all they want is that you are licensed. Most managers would prefer to hire someone with some CNA experience over someone who got perfect grades. Why? Well because someone with CNA experience actually knows a bit about how things happen in reality, not in a text book.

I don't feel that I am necessarily negative about the profession. I just have a feeling that you are basing many things on only what your professors have told you, and things really just aren't that way.

For all the naysayers who say nursing is awful and they would discourage anybody from doing it, there are plenty of us who are very positive. Nursing is a second career for me. I have a hospital job in NJ (I had a summer student nurse externship in NYC, yes, that is a very tough job market). I don't see nursing as "going down the toilet" at all, on the contrary I feel it was a great career choice and I'm very excited that this is what I'll be doing for the rest of my professional life. I have 4-5 days off er week and earn good money for having so few work days, I feel like what I do (while stressful) is important and meaningful, and I like my job. My facility is union and that really helps provide good working conditions, I love being in a union. I don't have children but if I did I would strongly encourage them to become nurses, or at least something else in the medical field. Perhaps the naysayers aren't second career nurses so the grass seems greener on the other side of the fence? IMO after spending almost a decade as a corporate goon glued to a desk in the financial industry, I can honestly say that nursing is 1000x better. Bottom line - good money, flexible schedule, better job security, meaningful work, plenty of opportunity to learn, grow, and climb the ladder.

Good Morning, Gil

Specializes in Rehab, critical care. Has 3 years experience.

I will try to give a balanced perspective on why there are some nurses that hate their jobs, and why others love their jobs. Firstly, this occurs in any profession in which either A). the profession is not a good fit for someone or B). working conditions are not the best. (That's probably oversimplifying things, but you get the point). Any career will have people who both love and hate their jobs. Why are nurses typically more outspoken in why they don't like their jobs? Because it involves patient care, and in working conditions that are sub-par, nurses are not able to take thorough care for the patient, which leaves them feeling like crap after they leave a shift, and after many, many shifts, these nurses will burn out.

I must say: there are good and even great places to work. Not every hospital/office/clinic, etc is created equal. If you work with a great nursing team, helpful co-workers, and have good patient ratios, the odds of one liking his/her job exponentially increases. I can attest to this. I feel like I am actually making a difference because I am able to provide thorough care in my ICU, even when it's fast-paced, being able to notice very subtle changes in patient condition, lab trends, getting the orders needed, because I have 2 patients, and because I work with a good team. Can you do this with 6,8,10 patients? Perhaps, but it becomes much more difficult since you have much less time to spend with them. I can also attest to this because I have done both. Point being: find an area that suits your personality, and you will like your job a whole lot more. If I worked on an ortho floor, for instance, my job satisfaction would decrease exponentially.

The pros of nursing: ease of getting a job (compared to other professions right now); at least a nurse can get a job somewhere even if it requires a move, and even if it's a crappy work environment, and make a livable wage; flexibility (can work part-time, prn, full time); also, if you want to try a new area, you can (I might like to try oncology some day, for instance, and I can do this without leaving the hospital system); direct patient care, while hard work, is rewarding.

Cons: the hours (if in bedside nursing, which most are), working conditions (caveat: also sometimes), toxic environments, and lazy co-workers (caveat: sometimes; these generally go hand in hand). The major con for me is: hours (nights) since I am drained on days off, have to keep a night schedule, but that is huge, since that affects quality of life as a whole. (but I am thankful I have a good job, rewarding job).

Would I do nursing all over again? No. I would have majored in biology, and become a physician assistant. Better pay, better hours, more autonomy. Nursing is a second degree for me. But, don't misunderstand me. I do enjoy being a nurse, but also look forward to a time in the future when I can work part-time so that I can raise a family, have more time with family. I'm pretty sure my job satisfaction will increase even more when I am working fewer hours lol.

Excellent posts, thanks everyone!

As for the "dire need" comment, I do realize that Nursing field was not immune to the tanked economy. But I still believe, and I think many can attest, that in relation to many other fields Nursing is still an easier field to find employment in. There is still a national shortage, but largely depends on geographical location within the US. In New York City, there's no shortage because we have closed a few hospitals in the past decade while the amount of new nurses being pumped out of our schools remained the same, or even grew with increasing demand to enter the field. Simultaneously, as others have mentioned, veteran nurses on the brink of retirement have to hold off on that because their 401k's went down the drain. It's a pretty horrible combination, and I seriously hope I'm not forced to move outside of the city for employment. Many new nurses who are having trouble finding jobs at hospitals often have to settle with physician's offices and nursing homes, until they can find an opportunity to work in a hospital. It definitely sucks.

My school offers some internships/externships at several highly respected hospitals around the city, so I'll definitely try to get at least one of those as it would give me a great edge. Getting those depends highly upon GPA so I'm ready to work hard for it.