RN tried to talk me out of Nursing school...

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So I went to my GP's private clinic today to get blood work, a PPD round, and antibody titers done for nursing school which I'll be starting this coming Fall. Upon meeting with his nurse, I told her I needed all of this done for nursing school. She blankly stared at me for a good three seconds and then asked: "Why in the world are you going to nursing school?". I wasn't sure what she meant by that, so I asked her to clarify. She said "Well, you're a young guy with flawless English skills. What the heck are you getting yourself in to?" (This Nurse is a Russian immigrant, whose English skills are not perfect. I'm Russian too, but came here at a very young age unlike her. I guess a lot of Nurses in New York City are immigrants that lack great language skills so they choose nursing as a "last resort" profession apparently?). She went on to explain to me how nobody is hiring right now, and that hospitals are closing. She assumed I was going for an Associates degree, but the program I'm entering is for the BSN. I told her this, and then she questioned why I didn't go for PA or PT instead. I told her Nursing is what I truly wanted to do, and she smirked and said "Okay, you don't understand the situation yet. You'll see."

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Not that I was discouraged by this, but I found it interesting how bitter some people can be against their own profession. Especially a nurse, who knows that there is a dire need for people to enter the profession, especially as many baby-boomer nurses are going to retire in the coming years.

Have you ever had people try to discourage you when you told them you were going into nursing? And do you regret not taking their advice?

I think I know what I'm getting myself into (hopefully), and I'm mentally prepared. I just hope that at some point in the future I won't end up hating my job like she does...

I don't want to be one of those discouraging about nursing, but again, I don't think you understand the whole picture. There are many new grads in your city who would be thrilled to find jobs in physician's offices and nursing homes because they can't find anything at all.

They've been saying the thing about how nurses are going to start retiring again for the last five years. I was one of the first around allnurses who struggled to find a job after graduation (and quite a lot of people didn't believe it). The situation has gotten minimally better, if that. The older nurses may have started retiring, but there are plenty of younger and/or newer nurses to take their places--and the hospitals are making do with fewer nurses even when they're still open.

It's great to work hard to get good grades; it's great to get an internship in school; that's almost all you can do. But sometimes it still doesn't work out.

You aren't graduating yet, but if I could give advice to anyone graduating into a tight local market, it would be--seriously--to take any hospital job that's offered. Don't lull yourself into thinking that because you were offered one job, the market isn't as tight as was rumored. I'd say it's okay to hold out for a hospital job for a little while (depending on your living situation), but not too long--then it's time for the alternatives.

Best of luck in nursing school. I don't regret it for a moment.

Specializes in Oncology.

I love how many people will be quick to point out how "bad" the nursing job market is, yet it's miles better than the job markets for the vast majority of other college grads. I guess I'm not seeing the terrible job market. My unit hired 4 new grads this week.

Specializes in Emergency, ICU.
So I went to my GP's private clinic today to get blood work, a PPD round, and antibody titers done for nursing school which I'll be starting this coming Fall. Upon meeting with his nurse, I told her I needed all of this done for nursing school. She blankly stared at me for a good three seconds and then asked: "Why in the world are you going to nursing school?". I wasn't sure what she meant by that, so I asked her to clarify. She said "Well, you're a young guy with flawless English skills. What the heck are you getting yourself in to?" (This Nurse is a Russian immigrant, whose English skills are not perfect. I'm Russian too, but came here at a very young age unlike her. I guess a lot of Nurses in New York City are immigrants that lack great language skills so they choose nursing as a "last resort" profession apparently?). She went on to explain to me how nobody is hiring right now, and that hospitals are closing. She assumed I was going for an Associates degree, but the program I'm entering is for the BSN. I told her this, and then she questioned why I didn't go for PA or PT instead. I told her Nursing is what I truly wanted to do, and she smirked and said "Okay, you don't understand the situation yet. You'll see."

:confused:

Not that I was discouraged by this, but I found it interesting how bitter some people can be against their own profession. Especially a nurse, who knows that there is a dire need for people to enter the profession, especially as many baby-boomer nurses are going to retire in the coming years.

Have you ever had people try to discourage you when you told them you were going into nursing? And do you regret not taking their advice?

I think I know what I'm getting myself into (hopefully), and I'm mentally prepared. I just hope that at some point in the future I won't end up hating my job like she does...

I understand where she's coming from. You're young, have no kids (assuming here) and she felt you should aim higher. No harm in that. I wouldn't suggest PA or PT as the pay is awful and the professional treatment just as bad as in nursing. I would tell you to take your BA in biology and head to med school but it really all depends on your personal goals.

What do you want out of your nursing career? Autonomy, respect, recognition? Then forget bedside nursing! You need to aim for an advanced practice degree to get close to that. You really care about people and want to help them as they maneuver the healthcare system? Stick to nursing.

I highly recommend nursing to people going for a second or third career for the security in the job market (yes, you may have to move to Arizona but jobs are there if you truly need them). Wouldn't encourage young people with time to go to school for something else unless they really love nursing.

Just my opinion.

Edmia,

My *ultimate* goal is to get masters and specialize. Perhaps even anaesthesist but we'll see where that goes. First, after obtaining a BSN, I want to work hospital bedsides for at least a few years. That's the plan anyway.

MD is a nice thought (I was extraordinarily fascinated with physiology and biochemical processes in the various systems of the body in a/p) but it's ridiculously competitive. Everyone and their mother is a pre-med apparently. My mistake was that I didn't have a goal in mind in high school, and slacked in my first year of college. After I got my stuff together, I got A's in both semesters of inorganic chemistry and both semesters of general biology. I probably could have gotten accepted to a New York-area med school if I was focused from the beginning though. But don't get me wrong, I didn't "settle" with nursing at all. Nursing was my initial goal entering college, and I would feel much more comfortable with the responsibilities of a nurse. I feel like specializing would be a great niche for me though, as it combines nursing and all the other stuff I'd be interested in learning.

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

Do what you want. You will anyway. :lol2:

Specializes in Telemetry.
It's not as though those of us that try to warn people about nursing are selfishly trying to keep all the great perks and pay to ourselves! :rotfl:

Amen!

I love how many people will be quick to point out how "bad" the nursing job market is, yet it's miles better than the job markets for the vast majority of other college grads. I guess I'm not seeing the terrible job market. My unit hired 4 new grads this week.

I would hope that you truly don't "love" the expressions of frustration from people who are struggling to find employment in the current market. While it may be better than other career prospects, that degree of difference means nothing when trying to find work, keep creditors at bay, feed and shelter yourself and family. Add to these the sense of worthlessness and being an outsider trying to get into the club of employment raises stress to a level and tone that is similar to, though different from the stress of the job itself.

You say your unit hired four new grads. How many applied? Four? Forty? Four-hundred?

It is a terrible market for new grads. You are an experienced nurse somewhat insulated from the market right now, so no, you are not seeing how bad it is. But, you'll have to trust me on this one, it sucks.

Anytime I go to see a movie I watch it with an open mind even if I had people tell me how they didn't like it and it was horrible and not worth the time/money. I feel the same about nursing and much more so. I've always loved the healthcare field. I refuse to let others make decisions for me. As far as I'm concerned they can keep their unwanted advice to themselves. This is what I choose to do. If I end up not enjoying it, at least I have decided that for myself and didn't let someone talk me out of a career that I have worked hard for and have wanted for such a long time.

Long story short, only you can decide if nursing is for you.

Specializes in Oncology.
I would hope that you truly don't "love" the expressions of frustration from people who are struggling to find employment in the current market. While it may be better than other career prospects, that degree of difference means nothing when trying to find work, keep creditors at bay, feed and shelter yourself and family. Add to these the sense of worthlessness and being an outsider trying to get into the club of employment raises stress to a level and tone that is similar to, though different from the stress of the job itself.

You say your unit hired four new grads. How many applied? Four? Forty? Four-hundred?

It is a terrible market for new grads. You are an experienced nurse somewhat insulated from the market right now, so no, you are not seeing how bad it is. But, you'll have to trust me on this one, it sucks.

My point is simply that if you are going to go to college, than nursing is still a better bet than philosophy or English literature if you wish to be employable post graduation. I think nursing majors may be more frustrated because they worked so hard for their degrees, but this board makes it seem like it's a problem with nursing. It isn't. It's a problem with the economy across the board. I hate how when someone comes here and states that they want to become a nurse people immediately jump down their throat about how they won't be able to get a job in four years, so don't go to nursing school. That train of thought makes no sense to me. What major would be better? And who knows where she wants to work after school? Many hospitals in my area are hiring nurses everyday.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.

i'm going to cruise right on past the "dumb immigrant" comment. i'll get myself in trouble if i say what i think about that.

there is no nursing shortage. there is not likely to be one for quite some time. your professors are feeding you a line of cr@p if that is what they are telling you. i've been out of nursing school 27y, and they were saying the same thing back then. they have to in order to survive.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
you mean everyone who wears scrubs and a scope around her/his neck isn't always a nurse?

​say it isn't so, joe!

Specializes in school nursing, ortho, trauma.

I will give simple advice to the OP:

Follow your bliss. If that means nursing school and a career as a nurse, then go for it and achieve it and do the best job you can. It doesn't matter what other people think - you are the one that has to live your life.

Sure, the job market for nurses isn't as spectacular as the articles on the front of the yahoo home page would lead you to believe, but times are tough for practically every profession. I work with quite a few unhappy teacher's aides that would give their eyeteeth for a full time teaching job. I would never talk anyone out of going to nursing school, though i am not opposed to showing someone the truths that are sometimes hidden.

My advice to you is to do what will be rewarding for you. If that means nursing school, then so be it. And then get out there and network, network, network. Get your face familiar with the local hospitals. Volunteer if you have to. When you finish nursing school, your full time job will be filling out job applications and following up on said applications. Remain positive and cheerful, even when you don't feel like being either. Achievement is 50% busting your butt working and 50% good attitude.

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