Okay, I fully expect to be slammed for this. What do all these posts about gaming the system to get early results say about the character of some of the new grads/nurse candidates? One of the prime requisites of being a nurse is good judgement. Boasting about or encouraging fraudulent behavior by using inaccurate or inadequate credit card information to get test results hours or days quicker does not speak well of one's judgement and maturity. Is this what we accept from our colleagues?
It may be harsh but I think this is a matter of integrity. I understand impatience very well, I understand wanting to know if all the work of school paid off, what I don't understand is how easily one can ignore the lessons of integrity and professionalism.
If one can lie to a faceless testing company how one respond when faced with a potential life threatening situation that requires, patience, integrity, and maturity. It's a slippery slope, a little harmless deception here may reveal character issues that come to light when real harm may be caused.
So, slam me, flame me, whatever, or I hope some will agree with me.
Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
I never did the PVT & I lived. Now that I know about it but it is anything but reliable I certainly won't be doing it. I just don't understand why people can't wait. It's not like you get any relief from doing it. Most people who do the PVT are still a nervous wreck & on top of that there's the possibility of losing $200, no thank you!
But I agree with the OP, it doesn't make you look good. If you can't wait 2 days (if your state participates in quick results) then that's really sad.
Using invalid credit card info intentionally is dishonest. Whether you think it's okay to do or not, it is dishonest. Submitting authorization for payment that you do not intend to pay is dishonest.
Anytime you don't follow the rules and then use justification ("it isn't hurting anybody") you have a problem. It says that you will cheat if it benefits you and YOU feel that it's no big deal. You agreed to abide by the registration/testing/results system set up by NCLEX and then disregarded it as soon as you got the chance. Not a good thing.
Good thing "did you do the Pearson-Vue trick?" isn't a standard interview question.
I have strong feelings about judging someone's entire character based on a single act of "dishonesty." It's dishonest to say you weigh 125 lbs on your driver's license when you really weigh 145, too.
Hey, I'm encouraged by the support of my original post. I was hesitant to raise this issue thinking I would get flamed and accused that my user name is an accurate depiction of me and my character.
I did not use the PVT, and even if I did it would be immaterial to my point. What I am railing against is the use of invalid credit card info and the intention of not paying if charged by Pearson. I feel that is fraud and some people appear proud of committing it. I have philosophical objections to a private company such as Pearson Vue profiting so greatly from public licensing and accreditations (look up how enmeshed they are with testing), but it's a successful business plan for them and good for them.
Oh and by the way, the weight on my driver's license was accurate when it was first issued. I'm just not going to tell you how long ago that was and I never tried to stop payment to the DMV as I got fatter.
Anytime you don't follow the rules and then use justification ("it isn't hurting anybody") you have a problem. It says that you will cheat if it benefits you and YOU feel that it's no big deal. You agreed to abide by the registration/testing/results system set up by NCLEX and then disregarded it as soon as you got the chance. Not a good thing.
So well said.
How far will one go when one may think "this isn't going to hurt nobody" if another situation arises? I guess one is aware of their own moral compass, but I digress...
Just my own musings...I just looked on my BON for my license number-I don't recall the PVT when I took my NCLEX-PN, and was so nervous when my classmate tried to talk me through the PVT, I got the "good pop up" and didn't believe it; I didn't do it repeatedly or even though to put an expired CC to make sure it was accurate, I went back to watching the BON site and it saved me 208 dollars.
I don't think doing the pvt has any bearing on a person's ability to provide safe and compassionate care to one's patients. That's a stretch. If doing pvt is demonstrative of poor judgement, where is the line drawn? Nurses are not saints.
Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
I don't think doing the pvt has any bearing on a person's ability to provide safe and compassionate care to one's patients. That's a stretch. If doing pvt is demonstrative of poor judgement, where is the line drawn? Nurses are not saints.
Here's the deal: some of us waited weeks for the chiseled stone tablet to arrive in the mail and we survived. Yes, it's nerve-wracking but if you're going to function as a nurse, be prepared for your nerves to be wracked once in a while.
It speaks volumes of one's ability to delay gratification. Are you really going to last 12 hours with a full bladder and an empty stomach and annoying patients if it's all about you?
I accept that. I just think it can be all about you when it's all about you, but all about patients at work. You know the old "Wipe your feet at the door," kind of thing.
Here's the deal: some of us waited weeks for the chiseled stone tablet to arrive in the mail and we survived. Yes, it's nerve-wracking but if you're going to function as a nurse, be prepared for your nerves to be wracked once in a while.
It speaks volumes of one's ability to delay gratification. Are you really going to last 12 hours with a full bladder and an empty stomach and annoying patients if it's all about you?
I know! That's what I keep thinking when I see some of the threads about the PVT, about having to wait so many hours, days, or whatever.
It was a LONG 7 weeks waiting on my results years ago in the "snail mail"
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I never did the PVT & I lived. Now that I know about it but it is anything but reliable I certainly won't be doing it. I just don't understand why people can't wait. It's not like you get any relief from doing it. Most people who do the PVT are still a nervous wreck & on top of that there's the possibility of losing $200, no thank you!
But I agree with the OP, it doesn't make you look good. If you can't wait 2 days (if your state participates in quick results) then that's really sad.