President Biden thread

4 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yep. The unprecedented lies and corruption of Trump don't matter.  The inaugural lies are brushed off with the thought that it didn't matter and nobody really believed them anyway. 

It does matter.  The lies were believed.  Many more, much more dangerous lies followed and where those lies lead is to January 6 and the reality that the republic remains in peril because of the lies. 

And when he got caught lying about the inaugural crowd, no one picked up on how crazy he is?  Somehow that blatent lying in the face of the photographic evidence  was OK with them?  Boffing a Media star when you wife is in the hospital having a baby - well, I guess they just think that's boys behaving like boyg (GRRRRRR).  There were symptoms all over the place during the campaign and warnings from psychiatrists.  The people who voted for him were as crazy as he was if they couldn't just OBSERVE how defective he was.  The good news is that Biden isn't going to run again and we're just gonna have to take him for the next 3 years. I'll take a machine hack over a psycho any day.

1 hour ago, subee said:

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3 hours ago, chare said:

Then, if it is so abundant provide sources.

January 6th

How exactly, in your opinion, does this support this claim:

7 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Oh right...except there's evidence that Trump voters still believe his lies. The overwhelming evidence is all around you. 

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14 minutes ago, chare said:

How exactly, in your opinion, does this support this claim:

 

Do you deny that some conservative politicians and many Trump supporters still try to maintain that January 6 was nothing important and doesn't require investigation? Do you deny that millions of Trump supporters are convinced that there is evidence that the 2020 election was fraudulent? There is a cascade of lies that follows Trump and now the lies are dangerous to the republic. 

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

You're somewhat on track, in my view.  I heard that at the time about the crowd, thought "eh, doubt it", and didn't really give it much thought.  Who gives AF?

I'm a results oriented guy.  I don't like the lies from either side.  Much prefer Trump's results then how much less secure America has become in just the last two weeks just on one issue. Nevermindvthe catastrophes that's resulted from the last 8 months.

I really can't respect that.  You're okay with Trump's style of making things up as long as he gets results.  It's the old "yeah he says stupid things and these some falsehoods..but".   

The size of the crowd at the inauguration was a big deal because he lied and this his press secretary lied, and his advisor said it was "alternative facts".  That's why people gave AF.  Little did we know what was to follow....LOL

Anyway, it doesn't matter.  He's yesterday's news.

The Afghanistan issue really hasn't made America less secure has it?  Perhaps some of our interests in the region might be compromised but our national security is intact isn't it.  I mean we're still spending 700 to 800 billion a year for defense. 

I will give it to you that Biden has indeed has his challenges with January 6th, Afghanistan and the border, both of which can be argued isn't/wasn't handled with any good results.  What other "catastrophes" make you feel "much less secure"?   There's covid but Republicans really don't seem to be worried and insecure about it much, but I might think that because I live in Florida where it's not a big deal and we're going about life normally.

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

You're somewhat on track, in my view.  I heard that at the time about the crowd, thought "eh, doubt it", and didn't really give it much thought.  Who gives AF?

I'm a results oriented guy.  I don't like the lies from either side.  Much prefer Trump's results then how much less secure America has become in just the last two weeks just on one issue. Nevermindvthe catastrophes that's resulted from the last 8 months.

 

 

 

Dude did you listen to Biden's speech today? 

Who's the boss? Who's the man in charge? 

Just tax yourself a little, I know it's a struggle but just give it a go. 

War in Afghanistan.... Who benefits? Defense contractors... Mucho dollars to how many lobbyists? 

Military.... Do you really think they wanted to be diminished with no war to ponce around in? Biden ignored everyone and did what had to be done! 

Biden said, it's my way! Those generals have gotten the picture! 

Imagine all that money pouring into the American economy instead of fighting a losing war! Has anyone ever beaten Afghanistan in their long history? How many Soviets, Brits, US, anybody? All world powers in their time and they all got smote! 

Drones! Get the picture? 

16 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I wouldn't say I'm OK with it.  I would prefer a honest politician who gets the results I want.  But I'll take Trump over any liberal I can think of.

I doubt youre "OK" with the lies Biden tells.  But, you'll gladly take him over any honest conservative, I imagine?

Absolutely!

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/569668-america-is-less-safe-after-bidens-failure-in-afghanistan

Oh boy, the opinion of a partisan republican member of Congress...LOL

8 minutes ago, Beerman said:

"President Joe Biden on Tuesday took responsibility for the "extraordinary success" of the military withdrawal from Afghanistan, which he simultaneously denounced as a failure due to the actions of his predecessor, former president Donald Trump, as well as the cowardly Afghan people who refused to fight for their country."

https://freebeacon.com/politics/biden-afghanistan-fail/

 

You must agree with that opinion.

20 hours ago, subee said:

January 6th

January 6th

April 21

April 21

34 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:

April 21

April 21

 

On April 21, 1649 Maryland Toleration Act passed in the American colony, allowing freedom of worship for Christians but sentencing to death anyone who rejected the divinity of Jesus

8 hours ago, Beerman said:

I wouldn't say I'm OK with it.  I would prefer a honest politician who gets the results I want.  But I'll take Trump over any liberal I can think of.

I doubt youre "OK" with the lies Biden tells.  But, you'll gladly take him over any honest conservative, I imagine?

Absolutely!

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/569668-america-is-less-safe-after-bidens-failure-in-afghanistan

No, I would choose someone else and demand this from my party.  I would demand the congress to stand up against him rather than let things slide.  I for the life of me can't imagine how and why after four years the Republicans chose Trump again as his candidate.  

It will remain what the fall out from Biden's exit from Afghanistan has say on Tawain, the Ukraine or North Korea.  To me that's a stretch.  It's not like they were waiting for the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan to poise themselves.   People predicted after the botched exit from Vietnam there would be a domino effect of countries turning communist and adversarial to the US.