Are we going to be able to refuse it, or will it be mandatory? I have had severe reactions to the influenza vaccine and eventually I declined it. Do we need to have a severe reaction in order for us to decline any further covid 19 vaccines? Or we could still opt out? What do you guys think? More Like This CDC Decides to Stop Tracking Community Transmission of COVID-19 by Praveen, MSN, RN Does the shot mess with your DNA? by Floor_Nurse Canadian Nursing Shortage: Why Canadian Nurses are Leaving Permanent Staff Positions by LOMalleyCommunications Ethical Arguments Against Mandatory Vaccination by ldhrn73 My Inspiration to Become a Nurse by PrudenceNurse
Hoosier_RN, MSN 3,798 Posts Specializes in dialysis. Has 30 years experience. Nov 26, 2020 That's going to depend on your employer most likely
allnurses Guide hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I 4 Articles; 4,778 Posts Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life). Has 21 years experience. Nov 26, 2020 No one can force you to get any vaccine however if you work in an “at will” they could fire you !
JadedCPN, BSN, RN 1,476 Posts Specializes in Pediatrics, Pediatric Float, PICU, NICU. Has 17 years experience. Nov 26, 2020 I think this will vary from facility to facility. In the beginning, I imagine most places would only take volunteers like my current hospital is doing. However come next year, I think it will be "mandatory" much like our flu vaccines are. As Hppy said, you can't be forced to take a vaccine btu understand you can be fired for not taking one.
MunoRN, RN 8,058 Posts Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience. Nov 26, 2020 It would seem somewhat unlikely that the vaccination would be purely voluntary for HCWs working with high risk (hospitalized) patients. As it is, my employer no longer allows any exemptions for the flu vaccine, which isn't uncommon, since there aren't really any true absolute contraindications to getting the vaccine (the two 'severe reactions' to the vaccine are GBS, which doesn't prevent someone from getting vaccinated in the future, and a severe allergic reaction which the person can still get vaccinated with a recombinant vaccine and/or vaccinated under medical supervision).
Emergent, RN 2 Articles; 4,112 Posts Specializes in ER. Has 30 years experience. Nov 27, 2020 I decided to accept. I've never reacted to any vaccine. I'm in superb health. I was paranoid, but decided to throw caution to the wind.
CardiTeleRN, BSN 72 Posts Specializes in Cardiac, Telemetry. Has 5 years experience. Nov 27, 2020 Health care is becoming a field of pure intimidation, bullying, and staff have no rights. It's always do what they say or be fired. No conversations to be had, no surveys. Nothing. We are willing to compromise but its a hierarchy of BS.
Hoosier_RN, MSN 3,798 Posts Specializes in dialysis. Has 30 years experience. Nov 27, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 11:02 PM, CardiTeleRN said: Health care is becoming a field of pure intimidation, bullying, and staff have no rights. It's always do what they say or be fired. No conversations to be had, no surveys. Nothing. We are willing to compromise but its a hierarchy of BS. That's not limited to the field of healthcare. It exists in every setting out there. The employer has always had the right to tell employees what to do, as long as its not illegal/out of scope. Some are just nicer about which knife they use to stab you in the back, when it suits their purpose
MunoRN, RN 8,058 Posts Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience. Nov 28, 2020 22 hours ago, CardiTeleRN said: Health care is becoming a field of pure intimidation, bullying, and staff have no rights. It's always do what they say or be fired. No conversations to be had, no surveys. Nothing. We are willing to compromise but its a hierarchy of BS. There shouldn't be any "surveys" involved or any other conversations, compromises, etc regarding whether or not nursing staff should take basic steps to ensure the safety of their patients. If a nurse says they see no need to perform hand hygiene between patients, or that they don't want to because of it's potential adverse effects should they be given a pass?
NewRN'16, ADN, RN 204 Posts Nov 28, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 1:46 PM, JadedCPN said: I think this will vary from facility to facility. In the beginning, I imagine most places would only take volunteers like my current hospital is doing. However come next year, I think it will be "mandatory" much like our flu vaccines are. As Hppy said, you can't be forced to take a vaccine btu understand you can be fired for not taking one. The more I think about it , the more concerned I am (regarding side effects and possible adverse reaction ) Im too chicken for this vaccine. Who knows what it does in the long run? It's not enough data yet
blondenurse12, MSN, NP 120 Posts Specializes in Family Practice. Has 13 years experience. Nov 28, 2020 I am fully vaccinated and I think of myself as a relatively intelligent individual. When I have read on this topic, I am concerned. mRNA vaccines have been researched for years but now we have one in a few months. Pfizer's safety data extends only a few months. The had 40,000 participants which I suppose seems like a decent number but when the population of the world is approaching 8 billion, that's a drop in the bucket. Most worrisome is how Pfizer announced 90% efficacy, then Moderna announced 94% or something, then Pfizer came back a day later saying they were 94.5% effective. This vaccine is all about capitalism and who can make the most money off this. I am afraid I will be forced to receive it. I have not had children yet. It would be terrible if this vaccine caused some birth defects or who knows what.
CommunityRNBSN, BSN, RN 917 Posts Specializes in Community health. Has 5 years experience. Nov 28, 2020 I’m sure I will get it eventually... but I’ll wait until the last second! I am 37 and in great health. Statistically speaking, I have nothing to worry about from Covid (not saying I have zero chance of severe illness, but the risk is vanishingly low and I’ll take my chances). So I’m in no hurry to take the vaccine. However, I’m also not going to quit my job over it. When it becomes mandatory, I’ll get it, but hopefully my deadline will be after quite a lot of real-world data from people who get it.
