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Now that the Covid 19 vaccine is just around the corner... Will it be mandatory?

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Are we going to be able to refuse it, or will it be mandatory? 

I have had severe reactions to the influenza vaccine and eventually I declined it. 

Do we need to have a severe reaction in order for us to decline any further covid 19 vaccines? Or we could still opt out? 

What do you guys think? 

Hoosier_RN, MSN

Specializes in dialysis. Has 28 years experience.

That's going to depend on your employer most likely

hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life). Has 19 years experience.

No one can force you to get any vaccine however if you work in an “at will” they could fire you !

JadedCPN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Pediatrics, Pediatric Float, PICU, NICU. Has 15 years experience.

I think this will vary from facility to facility. In the beginning, I imagine most places would only take volunteers like my current hospital is doing. However come next year, I think it will be "mandatory" much like our flu vaccines are. As Hppy said, you can't be forced to take a vaccine btu understand you can be fired for not taking one.

MunoRN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience.

It would seem somewhat unlikely that the vaccination would be purely voluntary for HCWs working with high risk (hospitalized) patients.

As it is, my employer no longer allows any exemptions for the flu vaccine, which isn't uncommon, since there aren't really any true absolute contraindications to getting the vaccine (the two 'severe reactions' to the vaccine are GBS, which doesn't prevent someone from getting vaccinated in the future, and a severe allergic reaction which the person can still get vaccinated with a recombinant vaccine and/or vaccinated under medical supervision).  

Emergent, RN

Has 28 years experience.

I decided to accept. I've never reacted to any vaccine. I'm in superb health. I was paranoid,  but decided to throw caution to the wind.

CardiTeleRN, BSN

Specializes in Cardiac, Telemetry. Has 3 years experience.

Health care is becoming a field of pure intimidation, bullying, and staff have no rights. It's always do what they say or be fired. No conversations to be had, no surveys. Nothing. We are willing to compromise but its a hierarchy of BS.

Hoosier_RN, MSN

Specializes in dialysis. Has 28 years experience.

On 11/26/2020 at 11:02 PM, CardiTeleRN said:

Health care is becoming a field of pure intimidation, bullying, and staff have no rights. It's always do what they say or be fired. No conversations to be had, no surveys. Nothing. We are willing to compromise but its a hierarchy of BS.

That's not limited to the field of healthcare. It exists in every setting out there. The employer has always had the right to tell employees what to do, as long as its not illegal/out of scope. Some are just nicer about which knife they use to stab you in the back, when it suits their purpose

MunoRN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience.

22 hours ago, CardiTeleRN said:

Health care is becoming a field of pure intimidation, bullying, and staff have no rights. It's always do what they say or be fired. No conversations to be had, no surveys. Nothing. We are willing to compromise but its a hierarchy of BS.

There shouldn't be any "surveys" involved or any other conversations, compromises, etc regarding whether or not nursing staff should take basic steps to ensure the safety of their patients.

If a nurse says they see no need to perform hand hygiene between patients, or that they don't want to because of it's potential adverse effects should they be given a pass?

 

On 11/26/2020 at 1:46 PM, JadedCPN said:

I think this will vary from facility to facility. In the beginning, I imagine most places would only take volunteers like my current hospital is doing. However come next year, I think it will be "mandatory" much like our flu vaccines are. As Hppy said, you can't be forced to take a vaccine btu understand you can be fired for not taking one.

The more I think about it , the more concerned I am (regarding side effects and possible adverse reaction ) 

Im too chicken for this vaccine. Who knows what it does in the long run? It's not enough data yet 

blondenurse12, MSN, NP

Specializes in Family Practice. Has 13 years experience.

I am fully vaccinated and I think of myself as a relatively intelligent individual. 

When I have read on this topic, I am concerned. mRNA vaccines have been researched for years but now we have one in a few months. Pfizer's safety data extends only a few months. The had 40,000 participants which I suppose seems like a decent number but when the population of the world is approaching 8 billion, that's a drop in the bucket. 

Most worrisome is how Pfizer announced 90% efficacy, then Moderna announced 94% or something, then Pfizer came back a day later saying they were 94.5% effective. This vaccine is all about capitalism and who can make the most money off this. 

I am afraid I will be forced to receive it. I have not had children yet. It would be terrible if this vaccine caused some birth defects or who knows what. 

CommunityRNBSN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Community health. Has 3 years experience.

I’m sure I will get it eventually... but I’ll wait until the last second!  I am 37 and in great health. Statistically speaking, I have nothing to worry about from Covid (not saying I have zero chance of severe illness, but the risk is vanishingly low and I’ll take my chances). So I’m in no hurry to take the vaccine. However, I’m also not going to quit my job over it. When it becomes mandatory, I’ll get it, but hopefully my deadline will be after quite a lot of real-world data from people who get it. 

FolksBtrippin, BSN, RN

Specializes in Psychiatry, Pediatrics, Public Health.

28 minutes ago, CommunityRNBSN said:

I’m sure I will get it eventually... but I’ll wait until the last second!  I am 37 and in great health. Statistically speaking, I have nothing to worry about from Covid (not saying I have zero chance of severe illness, but the risk is vanishingly low and I’ll take my chances). So I’m in no hurry to take the vaccine. However, I’m also not going to quit my job over it. When it becomes mandatory, I’ll get it, but hopefully my deadline will be after quite a lot of real-world data from people who get it. 

This is exactly how I feel about it.

16 hours ago, MunoRN said:

There shouldn't be any "surveys" involved or any other conversations, compromises, etc regarding whether or not nursing staff should take basic steps to ensure the safety of their patients.

If a nurse says they see no need to perform hand hygiene between patients, or that they don't want to because of it's potential adverse effects should they be given a pass?

 

You're delusional. This isn't communist Russia and every American has a right to know and feel comfortable with what goes into their bodies-remember the Tuskegee syphilis study?

Washing hands isn't comparable to receiving a vaccine. One's invasive, the other's not,  but have at it 💉

Tweety, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac. Has 28 years experience.

I just saw an video conference with the CEO of our organization and he stated that the vaccine here in Florida would got to staff in the ER, ICU and Covid units first and it would not be mandatory.

52 minutes ago, CommunityRNBSN said:

I’m sure I will get it eventually... but I’ll wait until the last second!  I am 37 and in great health. Statistically speaking, I have nothing to worry about from Covid (not saying I have zero chance of severe illness, but the risk is vanishingly low and I’ll take my chances). So I’m in no hurry to take the vaccine. However, I’m also not going to quit my job over it. When it becomes mandatory, I’ll get it, but hopefully my deadline will be after quite a lot of real-world data from people who get it. 

The risk is low for you to get seriously ill, but not for others that you pass it on to.

Just sayin'

But I get it.  A lot of people are saying the same thing.  It's been tested on tens and thousands of people, but these people are out view from us and people want to see what it actually does and don't want to be in that first wave of recipients.

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The argument that some put out there comparing the refusal of a vaccine to the refusal of washing hands, wearing seat belt, etc. Is just ridiculous and those people making that argument will be the first ones in line for this Covid vaccine. Plus, the fact that this vaccine is the first mRNA vaccine to ever be used in humans is something we need to discuss more. 

As the old Feminist chant goes "MY BODY, MY CHOICE!"  I for one will NOT get the vaccine and the moment the Government mandates it is the moment for Armed Insurrection.  

We all have seen to many new meds and shots get recalled or stopped being used by the onset of unknown side effects and pt deaths and crippling side effects after several years. NO WAY WILL I DO THAT! 

pinkdoves

Specializes in Pediatrics. Has 2 years experience.

my employer already sent an email to everyone saying it's optional