Now that the Covid 19 vaccine is just around the corner... Will it be mandatory?

[Kerivara]

Also, I'm a nurse.  So I am getting it.

[Robmoo, ADN, BSN, RN]

The flu vaccine is mandatory at my hospital.  They used to just make people who didn't get vaccination wear a mask.  I guess that was no threat for this year's vaccine, so they said get it or you're fired.

I've already gotten mine.  I'm in the Pfizer COVID vaccine trial.  I didn't get the saline shot.  I had body aches and a low grade fever for 36 hours.  No big deal.

If you don't want to follow evidence based practice guidelines in your own health care then perhaps a career in healthcare isn't for you.  Nurse teach, coach , and lead.  The "do as I say not as I do" approach doesn't work.  Unless you've had a serious reaction to a vaccine in the past such as Guillian-Barre or a true allergic reaction, it is time to do some adulting.

[Jack Peace]

39 minutes ago, Robmoo said:

The flu vaccine is mandatory at my hospital.  They used to just make people who didn't get vaccination wear a mask.  I guess that was no threat for this year's vaccine, so they said get it or you're fired.

I've already gotten mine.  I'm in the Pfizer COVID vaccine trial.  I didn't get the saline shot.  I had body aches and a low grade fever for 36 hours.  No big deal.

If you don't want to follow evidence based practice guidelines in your own health care then perhaps a career in healthcare isn't for you.  Nurse teach, coach , and lead.  The "do as I say not as I do" approach doesn't work.  Unless you've had a serious reaction to a vaccine in the past such as Guillian-Barre or a true allergic reaction, it is time to do some adulting.

Get off your high horse. That kind of comment isn't helping anything except your ego. If vaccines are such "evidence based" then why did congress give vaccine manufacturers exemption from liability for injuries and reactions in the 1980s? Let's see, which vaccine has resulted in the most payouts from taxpayers out of the vaccine injury program ..... By far the influenza vaccine year after year. But you are smart , so you already know all of this..

[guest584920]

My bet is all healthcare systems will make it mandatory. It's all about money.

The reason healthcare organizations are so hot and heavy on screening all patients for influenza and forcing all employees (with few exceptions) to get the influenza vaccine is because they get more money from the government.

Influenza is one of the measures  of the Hospital Value-Based Purchasing (VBP) Program. 

VPB is a Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) initiative that rewards hospitals with incentive payments for meeting certain measures.

My bet just like flu CMS will make covid vaccine a performance measure, and incentivize healthcare organizations to give it. And thus they will make it mandatory for all employees.

[guest584920]

1 hour ago, Robmoo said:

 I'm in the Pfizer COVID vaccine trial.  I didn't get the saline shot.  I had body aches and a low grade fever for 36 hours.  No big deal.

If you don't want to follow evidence based practice guidelines in your own health care then perhaps a career in healthcare isn't for you.  Nurse teach, coach , and lead.  The "do as I say not as I do" approach doesn't work.  Unless you've had a serious reaction to a vaccine in the past such as Guillian-Barre or a true allergic reaction, it is time to do some adulting.

Congrats on being a "crash test dummy" -I guess that is part of your "adulting" plan.

I actually do Nurse teach, coach , and lead. We'll see how your doing in a few years when we understand the long effects of the covid vaccine.

[CardiTeleRN, BSN]

1 hour ago, Robmoo said:

The flu vaccine is mandatory at my hospital.  They used to just make people who didn't get vaccination wear a mask.  I guess that was no threat for this year's vaccine, so they said get it or you're fired.

I've already gotten mine.  I'm in the Pfizer COVID vaccine trial.  I didn't get the saline shot.  I had body aches and a low grade fever for 36 hours.  No big deal.

If you don't want to follow evidence based practice guidelines in your own health care then perhaps a career in healthcare isn't for you.  Nurse teach, coach , and lead.  The "do as I say not as I do" approach doesn't work.  Unless you've had a serious reaction to a vaccine in the past such as Guillian-Barre or a true allergic reaction, it is time to do some adulting.

Do some adulting or do some sacrificing? I’m glad you are brave enough to sacrifice yourself but that doesn’t mean every nurse should have to do so. This isn’t the military. Even they have a choice in whether they sign up or not. They are presented exactly what they are signing up for. We sign up for one thing and are forced to do everything and now that includes sacrificing ourselves. 

[Robmoo, ADN, BSN, RN]

3 hours ago, DaveMHA-RN said:

Congrats on being a "crash test dummy" -I guess that is part of your "adulting" plan.

I actually do Nurse teach, coach , and lead. We'll see how your doing in a few years when we understand the long effects of the covid vaccine.

Here is a little light reading.  https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2028436?query=featured_coronavirus

This RNA technology isn't new.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/

I'll probably do better after this than the battery of vaccines that I received in the USAF. 

 

[JadedCPN, BSN, RN]

53 minutes ago, Robmoo said:

I'll probably do better after this than the battery of vaccines that I received in the USAF. 

 

That is exactly what my husband (former AF) said!

[Jack Peace]

2 hours ago, Robmoo said:

Here is a little light reading.  https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2028436?query=featured_coronavirus

This RNA technology isn't new.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/

I'll probably do better after this than the battery of vaccines that I received in the USAF. 

 

The RNA technology is new in terms of vaccines for use in public health. These type of vaccines have never been used anywhere before, would you agree with that? 

The long term issues are completely unknown. But, again, we are supposed to sacrifice our basic rights for enhanced safety. Not happening.

[toomuchbaloney]

23 hours ago, Jack Peace said:

Get off your high horse. That kind of comment isn't helping anything except your ego. If vaccines are such "evidence based" then why did congress give vaccine manufacturers exemption from liability for injuries and reactions in the 1980s? Let's see, which vaccine has resulted in the most payouts from taxpayers out of the vaccine injury program ..... By far the influenza vaccine year after year. But you are smart , so you already know all of this..

Didn't you study that in your nursing education...the purpose of the liability structure? Will you encourage your patients and personal contacts to vaccinate against covid, when the vaccine is widely available for public use?

[rn&run]

I’m 29 and I want to get it. I’ll take vaccination over the risk of harming my parents (and others, but my parents are the vulnerable ones I love most). I don’t think it’ll be mandatory though, just highly recommend. 

[Jack Peace]

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Didn't you study that in your nursing education...the purpose of the liability structure? Will you encourage your patients and personal contacts to vaccinate against covid, when the vaccine is widely available for public use?

I will and always have encouraged patients and personal contacts that the most important thing they can do for their health is exercise daily, eat balanced nutritional diet, take meds as prescribed by md, maintain regular sleep cycle patterns. That's where preventative health should start. It is not my job to recommend or not recommend any vaccine to a patient. I would refer the patient to their PCP for those specific questions about which vaccines they should or shouldn't take.