Leaving Your Job Due to Mandate

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For those of you who have recognized your employer can terminate you for not taking the COVID vaccine and have decided on or are considering employment elsewhere please share your experiences here. How do you feel about having to make that choice? 

The purpose of this thread is not to condemn those making this decision or debate whether they should vaccinate or not. 

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19 hours ago, jive turkey said:

I hear you. It's an awfully new drug to force upon people.

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Better not squandering and stay in indoor.  They're waiting outside your door. You'll be strapped in the chair and be injected with the COVID-19 vaccines.

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19 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

No.

You need not qualify yourself I already get what you do.  There's no quick and easy solution to that crisis but not COVID either.  People are still getting the infection with the vaccine, we have variants, so this isn't quick and easy.

I'm not disagreeing with you that there's benefit to the vaccine.  

I'm not talking obesity with you to say, we should throw vaccines out the window and act like COVID isn't real.

In reality Boston I'm disappointed it takes a disease to get mainstream media coverage for us to want to be proactive about to controlling it to the degree of mandates when we have other preventable diseases killing in large numbers not only exempt from mandates but being enabled.

What if we heard heart breaking stories every night of someone that died from complications related to their obesity and diabetes?  All the fast food they ate, cigarettes smoked etc.  It isn't given the attention like this disease is but killing as many if not more people arguably.

The thread is about leaving one's job to the mandate.  Stop with all the crazy talk about all the chronic diseases.  They have NOTHING to do with this.  You are just throwing stuff on the wall and hoping it will stick at this point.

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21 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

In reality Boston I'm disappointed it takes a disease to get mainstream media coverage for us to want to be proactive about to controlling it to the degree of mandates when we have other preventable diseases killing in large numbers not only exempt from mandates but being enabled.

What if we heard heart breaking stories every night of someone that died from complications related to their obesity and diabetes?  All the fast food they ate, cigarettes smoked etc.  It isn't given the attention like this disease is but killing as many if not more people arguably.

We had sensational media coverage about Ebola. There were only 4 cases in the US and 1 death. Media sells media that's all and I don't disagree it is disgusting and harmful to the population here. 

There is no easy prevention for obesity and it's comorbidities; it will take major socioeconomic changes, healthcare changes, culture changes, to make this a reality. 

Covid is different. This is an infectious disease that can readily and rapidly spread to others. It has a cheap and easy prevention mechanism, at least from moderate to severe illness, morbidity, and mortality. 

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1 minute ago, BostonFNP said:

We had sensational media coverage about Ebola. There were only 4 cases in the US and 1 death. Media sells media that's all and I don't disagree it is disgusting and harmful to the population here. 

There is no easy prevention for obesity and it's comorbidities; it will take major socioeconomic changes, healthcare changes, culture changes, to make this a reality. 

Covid is different. This is an infectious disease that can readily and rapidly spread to others. It has a cheap and easy prevention mechanism, at least from moderate to severe illness, morbidity, and mortality. 

Unfortunately, reason does not work with an unreasonable person.  That's why we need mandates for nursing staffs.

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7 hours ago, jive turkey said:

So what if it's not spread by a pathogen?  So what if it doesn't take 5 to 15 minutes?

It is spread and it can kill.   A key issue with combating disease is the fact it spreads and kills.

You want to talk numbers about deaths from illnesses related to obesity?

Ironically, weren't a significant number of those who died from COVID obese? HELLO.  But we aren't mandating much to curb obesity.

I'm not likening obesity to covid, I'm likening death and health care challenges from one disease to another and how we respond.   The fact you didn't catch on to that is asinine.

Hey Boston, it may feel satisfying for you to use inflammatory language and personal criticism with your replies.  Just know that it significantly cripples your argument and makes it look pathetic.  What you have to say about FACTS is far more respectable.

As a person who while eating healthy still struggles with weight  issues I have to say that if a vaccine against obesity existed I'd be first in line to take it.

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35 minutes ago, hppygr8ful said:

As a person who while eating healthy still struggles with weight  issues I have to say that if a vaccine against obesity existed I'd be first in line to take it.

You guys are missing the big picture.  If everybody is up in arms about people dying why are we picking one disease to be so proactive about yet passive of others..... that kill in large if not larger numbers?

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16 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

You guys are missing the big picture.  If everybody is up in arms about people dying why are we picking one disease to be so proactive about yet passive of others..... that kill in large if not larger numbers?

What is killing in larger numbers than covid 19 at this moment in time? Your inability to discern the need to mitigate and address this pandemic is remarkable. 

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Nervous about losing my job and potentially not being able to find another. I just don't trust the vaccine at this point. 

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4 minutes ago, crystalclear said:

Nervous about losing my job and potentially not being able to find another. I just don't trust the vaccine at this point. 

 

1 hour ago, jive turkey said:

You guys are missing the big picture.  If everybody is up in arms about people dying why are we picking one disease to be so proactive about yet passive of others..... that kill in large if not larger numbers?

Too many patients in line like in immigration.

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39 minutes ago, crystalclear said:

Nervous about losing my job and potentially not being able to find another. I just don't trust the vaccine at this point. 

Why don't you trust the vaccine?

John's Hopkins University  says they are safe. 

Mayo Clinic says they are safe.  

What concerns do you have?

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Only one of the major hospital systems in the area has mandated it thus far. Ironically, the same hospital system that tests for nicotine prior to hiring and does not employ those who smoke/dip/vape. 

On a personal level? Mandated vaccination doesn't bother me. The H1N1 vaccination was a mandate for me right when it came out, as I was deploying right at that time. The only thought I had about it was, oh, two flu shots simultaneously this year. COVID vaccines haven't come close to the adverse effect profile of Smallpox or Anthrax yet. I'm not worried about this vaccination. It would be far more likely I would suffer long-term health effects from exposure to something I ran across while deployed. Like that letter about air particulate exposure and risks for asthma, chronic sinusitis, chronic rhinitis, and other respiratory issues they so kindly sent me. ?‍♀️

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23 hours ago, kbrn2002 said:

How is the battle playing out among health care workers in the UK? Genuinely curious. Do you see the same level of arguments amongst the pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine camp we are seeing here in the US? 

I am astounded at the huge number of intelligent, educated professionals in my country both in the healthcare fields and outside it that fall into the strongly anti-vaccination camp in the US. Wondering if it's the same internationally.

We have not politicised the vaccine (or masking) here but still some people will not take it for "reasons" none of which make sense to me. These people are not vilified or ostracized but the information is there for them. No religious leader in the UK has come out against the vaccine and in fact churches, and mosques are being used as vaccine centers.

As far as I am aware almost every health care worker has taken the vaccine - they were first in line to get it before christmas. It is really not a "thing" here for health workers to refuse the vaccine. The assumption is that all health care workers are vaccinated. An anti-vaxx nurse or doctor runs the risk of having their registration revoked for giving out false information to patients.

As a point of interest, the Scottish government are looking at introducing vaccine passports in the next 2-3 weeks. This will mean that you can only get into concerts, football matches etc. by showing your vaccine status.

As you would imagine there is a bit of discussion around this - I am in favour because it may push the reluctant ones to get the vaccine.

Hope this is useful, please ask if you want more information but remember, I am retired and my information is coming from friends and family who are still employed.

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