Leaving Your Job Due to Mandate

[jive turkey]

For those of you who have recognized your employer can terminate you for not taking the COVID vaccine and have decided on or are considering employment elsewhere please share your experiences here. How do you feel about having to make that choice? 

The purpose of this thread is not to condemn those making this decision or debate whether they should vaccinate or not. 

[SmilingBluEyes]

I imagine they feel pretty upset, angry, crapped-on and betrayed.,

But I don't have to make that choice myself because:

my place of employment is not mandating the shot at least not yet

I have my vaccine!

SO I am golden.

[toomuchbaloney]

This ought to be "interesting". 

How do you feel about losing your job because you are being non-compliant with public health recommendations during a public health emergency? We're all just waiting with baited breath to hear how the intentionally unvaccinated HCW feels bullied or singled out, while they endanger everyone. 

[Seda8OR]

Since the virus has a treatment and a 99 percent survival rate without any medical treatment AND the so called vaccine is unproven, not really a vaccine, and killing people( see openvaers.com), I would say goodbye and not look back. I  know several harmed by the so called vaccine. Many places are going to regret this mandate after good staff leave. Finally, my body my choice. 

[toomuchbaloney]

8 minutes ago, Seda8OR said:

... Finally, my body my choice. 

Please stop sharing covid misinformation.  

All eligible adults should vaccinate ASAP. 

[macawake, MSN]

34 minutes ago, Seda8OR said:

Since the virus has a treatment and a 99 percent survival rate without any medical treatment AND the so called vaccine is unproven, not really a vaccine, and killing people( see openvaers.com), I would say goodbye and not look back. I  know several harmed by the so called vaccine. Many places are going to regret this mandate after good staff leave. Finally, my body my choice. 

There are several lies crammed into your short post.

All of the vaccines approved in the U.S. are vaccines. FACT.

Serious vaccine side effects/adverse events are very rare. FACT.

Dying from a Covid infection is a much bigger risk than being harmed by any of the vaccines. FACT.

The current CFR in the U.S. is 1.7%. The IFR can only be estimated. Many persons need medical treatment for Covid. That’s why we are working our **** off in hospitals all over the world. The majority of hospitalized patients do not die, and considering we’ve already talked about Covid CFR, it is obvious to even the most mathematically challeged individual that you can’t confidently assert that 99% survive without any medical treatment.

Heard of Long Covid? While death is the ultimate negative outcome, it’s far from the only one. Many people suffer sequelae from a Covid infection.

VAERS reports are unverified. They have not been analyzed. The information in them may not be accurate. It may be accurate information in that something has really happened to the person who made the report, but that something might not have any connection to getting vaccinated. 
 

As healthcare professionals when we talk about diseases, we don’t normally talk about ”survival rate”. We talk about mortality rate. This survival rate thing seems to be a term unique to people spreading disinformation.

Oh, and the vaccines are NOT unproven. They’ve gone through clinical trials and been vetted by medical regulatory agencies across the globe. 360 MILLION doses administered so far in the U.S. Close to 5 BILLION doses of various vaccine brands worldwide.

You make a lot of claims. Not a shred of supporting evidence offered. That isn’t surprising. For the simple reason that what you say simply isn’t true.

 

[Horseshoe, BSN, RN]

6 minutes ago, Seda8OR said:

Since the virus has a treatment and a 99 percent survival rate without any medical treatment AND the so called vaccine is unproven, not really a vaccine, and killing people( see openvaers.com), I would say goodbye and not look back. I  know several harmed by the so called vaccine. Many places are going to regret this mandate after good staff leave. Finally, my body my choice. 

I'm just going to address one of your assertions.

I don't know what "openvaers.com" is, but I do know how to find the actual VAERS web site. 

From that site, VAERS admits the following limitations of its usefulness:

"It is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused the adverse event.

Reports submitted to VAERS often lack details and sometimes contains errors

Serious adverse events are more likely to be reported than non-serious events

Numbers of reports may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness

VAERS data cannot be used to determine rates of adverse events."

VAERS - FAQs (hhs.gov)

Anyone can report anything to VAERS whether it's true or whether it's not. People who mistakenly believe a vaccine caused a death or adverse affect can report it. People who have an antivax agenda can outright lie in a report to VAERS. VAERS reports are proof of absolutely nothing. The value in VAERS is indicating a worrisome trend that must be further investigated. 

Anyone who uses VAERS data as you have is either uneducated as to its purpose and limitations or is deliberately gaslighting and will be called out because this kind of misinformation is dangerous to the public. Which one of those are you?

[jive turkey]

13 minutes ago, Seda8OR said:

Since the virus has a treatment and a 99 percent survival rate without any medical treatment AND the so called vaccine is unproven, not really a vaccine, and killing people( see openvaers.com), I would say goodbye and not look back. I  know several harmed by the so called vaccine. Many places are going to regret this mandate after good staff leave. Finally, my body my choice. 

Thank you for sharing.  The goal was not so much to dispute the vaccine itself rather discuss the journey and feelings of those who may have to or are leaving their employer due to the mandate.  

[SmilingBluEyes]

22 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

Thank you for sharing.  The goal was not so much to dispute the vaccine itself rather discuss the journey and feelings of those who may have to or are leaving their employer due to the mandate.  

Then you need to remain at that point,  and say no more. (IF that is the ONLY intent of this thread.) You gave your opinion. Time for others to chime in regarding the subject you started.

[macawake, MSN]

25 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

Thank you for sharing.  The goal was not so much to dispute the vaccine itself rather discuss the journey and feelings of those who may have to or are leaving their employer due to the mandate.  

Why are you thanking a person who is sharing demonstrably false information? Do you think that information that attempts to scare people into believing that safe and effective vaccines aren’t safe, should be encouraged on a nursing site in the middle of a pandemic? 

[jive turkey]

52 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Then you need to remain at that point,  and say no more. (IF that is the ONLY intent of this thread.) You gave your opinion. Time for others to chime in regarding the subject you started.

I'll say more when I feel like it, make no mistake on that. 

My original post asked questions, no opinion offered.  With your post, what I saw happening, was someone responding and making it an argument about vaccinating or not.  Plenty of other threads for that. 

I did ask how people felt about having to make that choice. If you were expressing how you felt about that choice and explaining how the vaccine is unproven and makes you feel about the decision to leave a job I'll stand corrected.  

[SmilingBluEyes]

8 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

I'll say more when I feel like it, make no mistake on that. 

My original post asked questions, no opinion offered.  With your post, what I saw happening, was someone responding and making it an argument about vaccinating or not.  Plenty of other threads for that. 

Then you should rename and re-address the subject of the thread. It's misleading. And I am not surprised. It's another way to get people into arguing when you purport to want to know how they feel, simply, about being forced out of a job d/t a vaccine mandate.

This is just another thread like the others and could easily be merged.