Mayo Clinic Wants to Establish Covid-19 Vaccine Facts

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59 minutes ago, Julie said:

So many ideas and theories are swirling, especially on social media, regarding the Covid-19 vaccine.  If you trust the Mayo Clinic, please read and form your own conclusions.

  COVID-19 vaccine myths debunked

THANK YOU! Her is one fact that may help people decide whether or when to be vaccinated:

Myth: COVID-19 vaccines will alter my DNA.

Fact: The first COVID-19 vaccines to reach the market are likely to be messenger RNA, or mRNA, vaccines. Messenger RNA vaccines work by instructing cells in the body how to make a protein that triggers an immune response, according to the CDC. Injecting messenger RNA into your body will not interact or do anything to the DNA of your cells. Human cells break down and get rid of the messenger RNA soon after they have finished using the instructions.

https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunked

katherine100

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So many unknowns in the article. 

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2 hours ago, katherine100 said:

So many unknowns in the article. 

OK then, list them and then list the "dangers" from those "unknowns." 

What I see are reasons to continue with precautions - something any SENSIBLE person would be happy to do. But, you carry on with your lack of understanding instead of trying to educate yourself.

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Myth: I already had COVID-19 and I have recovered, so I don't need to get a COVID-19 vaccine when it's available.

Fact: There is not enough information currently available to say if or for how long after infection someone is protected from getting COVID-19 again. This is called natural immunity. Early evidence suggests natural immunity from COVID-19 may not last very long, but more studies are needed to better understand this. Mayo Clinic recommends getting the COVID-19 vaccine, even if you’ve had COVID-19 previously. However, those that had COVID-19 should delay vaccination until about 90 days from diagnosis. People should not get vaccinated if in quarantine after exposure or if they have COVID-19 symptoms./p>

 

The last research I saw was showing that currently the vaccine and natural immunity was tied with research ongoing at about 6-9 months. The vaccine should from what I've seen be comparable so far... Either way, isn't it true that we shouldn't know if the vaccine provides protection much more then a year yet? The research is ongoing.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

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Myth: COVID-19 vaccines were developed using fetal tissue.

Fact: Neither the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine nor the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines contain fetal cells nor were fetal cells used the development or production of either vaccine.

This is word play... No fetal "tissue" was used nor were "fetal cells" because multiple articles say the cells used are not the same as they were "cloned" 

The cell line has a finite limit from the Hayflick limit and they are still the same cells from the baby assuming the baby had lived, these cells would have long died and been replaced with new ones anyway.  There are several documented sources talking about the construction of Moderna's spike protein that depended on the fetal cells for development. The Pfizer did not, it did however, use the cells for testing.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/369/6510/1501

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katherine100

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On 4/22/2021 at 7:05 AM, GrumpyRN said:

OK then, list them and then list the "dangers" from those "unknowns." 

What I see are reasons to continue with precautions - something any SENSIBLE person would be happy to do. But, you carry on with your lack of understanding instead of trying to educate yourself. I am all for general precautions.

I read they article. I NEVER used the term danger. Seems like you are projecting. They don't know if you will get it again. They don't know if a new vaccine will be needed. They don't know how long you  are protected for. They also don't know any long term side effects. J&J pulled their vaccine. BTW I am not anti vaccine.  Educate yourself.

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7 minutes ago, katherine100 said:

I read they article. I NEVER used the term danger. Seems like you are projecting. They don't know if you will get it again. They don't know if a new vaccine will be needed. They don't know how long you  are protected for. They also don't know any long term side effects. J&J pulled their vaccine. BTW I am not anti vaccine.  Educate yourself.

You stated there were "So many unknowns in the article." All I asked you to do is to list those unknowns and then tell me what the dangers from them are. You came over as a scare-mongerer happy to pounce on something wrong.

I am educated thank you and I have a degree from a very good British University.

katherine100

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Good. Glad you got the info. I gave answers. Also this vaccine is was not developed the way others were. Have a good one.

GrumpyRN, NP

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Just now, katherine100 said:

Also this vaccine is was not developed the way others were.

That's not true, they were just developed faster.

katherine100

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No. It was developed in a different way and yes it was faster.

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12 minutes ago, katherine100 said:

Good. Glad you got the info. I gave answers. Also this vaccine is was not developed the way others were. Have a good one.

What exactly are you implying with this statement? Are you implying that the science was rushed, forged, or bad? 

Soloist

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I personally don't object to removing red tape...