Leaving Your Job Due to Mandate

summertx · Sep 1, 2021

On 8/20/2021 at 3:47 PM, jive turkey said:

For those of you who have recognized your employer can terminate you for not taking the COVID vaccine and have decided on or are considering employment elsewhere please share your experiences here. How do you feel about having to make that choice?

The purpose of this thread is not to condemn those making this decision or debate whether they should vaccinate or not.

Flu, hepatitis vaccine, tuberculosis are not required in my state, if they are, there is no one to ensure compliance, only if there is an outbreak that is when state comes sniffing for noncompliance. People should have the choice to vaccinate and not be denied treatment because they made a mistake. That is doing harm to patients, by not treating them. That is not our job to cause harm to patients.

Staffing is hell where I am. Medical transport can take up to 8 hours to get there for a non emergent transport, x ray comes a day late, we have to call 911 if we need somewhat of an urgent transport, doctors can barely get there to see their patients (maybe they don't make time?) they live in nearby towns, nearest hospital has no ventilators, they have to be sent 40 min away if they have a bed. Some places can't afford the mandate.

jive turkey · Sep 1, 2021

10 minutes ago, summertx said:

Flu, hepatitis vaccine, tuberculosis are not required in my state, if they are, there is no one to ensure compliance, only if there is an outbreak that is when state comes sniffing for noncompliance. People should have the choice to vaccinate and not be denied treatment because they made a mistake. That is doing harm to patients, by not treating them. That is not our job to cause harm to patients.

Staffing is hell where I am. Medical transport can take up to 8 hours to get there, x ray comes a day late, we have to call 911 if we need somewhat of an urgent transport, doctors can barely get there to see their patients (maybe they don't make time?) they live in nearby towns, nearest hospital has no ventilators, they have to be sent 40 min away if they have a bed. Some places can't afford the mandate.

I hear you. It's an awfully new drug to force upon people.

And all that sounds terrible. We thought staffing shortages were an issue before hand.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 1, 2021

2 minutes ago, summertx said:

Flu, hepatitis, tuberculosis are not required in my state, if they are, there is no one to ensure compliance, only if there is an outbreak that is when state comes sniffing for noncompliance. People should have the choice to vaccinate and not be denied treatment because they made a mistake. That is doing harm to patients, by not treating them. That is not our job to cause harm to patients.

Public health experts disagree with you.

I'm surprised that Texas doesn't require a TB test as a portion employment on boarding.

https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/disease/tb/statistics/epiprofile/sec01.shtm

10GaugeNeedles, BSN · Sep 1, 2021

17 minutes ago, summertx said:

Flu, hepatitis vaccine, tuberculosis are not required in my state, if they are, there is no one to ensure compliance, only if there is an outbreak that is when state comes sniffing for noncompliance. People should have the choice to vaccinate and not be denied treatment because they made a mistake. That is doing harm to patients, by not treating them. That is not our job to cause harm to patients.

Staffing is hell where I am. Medical transport can take up to 8 hours to get there for a non emergent transport, x ray comes a day late, we have to call 911 if we need somewhat of an urgent transport, doctors can barely get there to see their patients (maybe they don't make time?) they live in nearby towns, nearest hospital has no ventilators, they have to be sent 40 min away if they have a bed. Some places can't afford the mandate.

It's odd. Most places I'm remembering actually don't mandate vaccines of any kind now that I think about it. There was always an opt out form. I'm dialysis, we obsess over hep B. I got the vaccine as it was part of the hiring process. But now that I think about it, there was always an opt out form. Anybody have a "get this vaccine or we can't hire you" situation? Cause now that I think about it, it was never actually MANDATORY for employment.

emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B · Sep 1, 2021

21 minutes ago, summertx said:

Flu, hepatitis vaccine, tuberculosis are not required in my state, if they are, there is no one to ensure compliance, only if there is an outbreak that is when state comes sniffing for noncompliance. People should have the choice to vaccinate and not be denied treatment because they made a mistake. That is doing harm to patients, by not treating them. That is not our job to cause harm to patients.

Staffing is hell where I am. Medical transport can take up to 8 hours to get there for a non emergent transport, x ray comes a day late, we have to call 911 if we need somewhat of an urgent transport, doctors can barely get there to see their patients (maybe they don't make time?) they live in nearby towns, nearest hospital has no ventilators, they have to be sent 40 min away if they have a bed. Some places can't afford the mandate.

Nobody is being denied service because they are not vaccinated. We do a ton of monoclonal antibody treatments in my er. Ties up beds for hours. 100% unvaccinated. Used to call it bam but now it’s ron for the rona. And yeah, y’all get an 18 in the hand.

summertx · Sep 1, 2021

8 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Public health experts disagree with you.

I'm surprised that Texas doesn't require a TB test as a portion employment on boarding.

https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/disease/tb/statistics/epiprofile/sec01.shtm

TB might be, but I do remember one of my jobs didn't follow up with me. Just shows the state of non compliance in certain areas. Just like testing twice a week for covid, these rural areas can't comply they can barely get people to walk in the door.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 1, 2021

15 minutes ago, summertx said:

TB might be, but I do remember one of my jobs didn't follow up with me. Just shows the state of non compliance in certain areas. Just like testing twice a week for covid, these rural areas can't comply they can barely get people to walk in the door.

Gee. That seems like bad public heath for the residents of Texas.

summertx · Sep 1, 2021

4 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Gee. That seems like bad public heath for the residents of Texas.

I don't think so. Some areas can't comply with the mandates. Not all of Texas is affected by such noncompliance. Only in rural areas where it's not as populated. No one cares in such areas.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 1, 2021

51 minutes ago, summertx said:

I don't think so. Some areas can't comply with the mandates. Not all of Texas is affected by such noncompliance. Only in rural areas where it's not as populated. No one cares in such areas.

That's too bad.

Alaska has the advantage that our rural areas are supported by Alaska Native Health which works closely with public health to protect our vulnerable population...even when they live in the most remote areas of our state.

iNurs5, CNA · Sep 1, 2021

Some of these posters here are concerning. I wonder what's their plan for those vulnerable people? I haven't seen their proposal how to stop the transmission of pathogens but insist of 99%. I hope they won't get the viruses.

Freewill doesn't work in this situation.

10GaugeNeedles, BSN · Sep 1, 2021

27 minutes ago, Honyebee said:

Some of these posters here are concerning. I wonder what's their plan for those vulnerable people? I haven't seen their proposal how to stop the transmission of pathogens but insist of 99%. I hope they won't get the viruses.

Freewill doesn't work in this situation.

My plan to save the world is to do a rain dance, toast mother earth and hum allot.

kbrn2002, ADN, RN · Sep 1, 2021

On 8/25/2021 at 6:47 PM, GrumpyRN said:

You do know I'm not American?

How is the battle playing out among health care workers in the UK? Genuinely curious. Do you see the same level of arguments amongst the pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine camp we are seeing here in the US?

I am astounded at the huge number of intelligent, educated professionals in my country both in the healthcare fields and outside it that fall into the strongly anti-vaccination camp in the US. Wondering if it's the same internationally.