Judy Mikovitz, Ph D and Anthony Fauci, MD

Kooky Korky, BSN, RN · May 9, 2020

7 hours ago, meanmaryjean said:
Just because someone has a doctorate does NOT mean they have a moral compass.

Absolutely true. Or an MD or any other degree.

Editorial Team / Admin · May 9, 2020

Another side:

A Virologist’s Response to “PLANdemic”:

https://thoughtsfromavirologist.wordpress.com/blog/?fbclid=IwAR3GjzRRh2jgQPaIFeM_chirwD13VgJ6QDxY-n-iGvqj3dOjACAdD2ZDJy4

allnurses Guide · May 9, 2020

6 minutes ago, dianah said:
Another side:
A Virologist’s Response to “PLANdemic”:
https://thoughtsfromavirologist.wordpress.com/blog/?fbclid=IwAR3GjzRRh2jgQPaIFeM_chirwD13VgJ6QDxY-n-iGvqj3dOjACAdD2ZDJy4

Thank you! this gives her claims and then reality. One example of many:

... She claims there is no vaccine for an RNA virus that works. This is patently false. Polio is an RNA virus. The polio vaccination campaign is one of the most successful vaccination campaigns in history, which has almost eradicated the virus from the planet....

https://thoughtsfromavirologist.wordpress.com/blog/?fbclid=IwAR3GjzRRh2jgQPaIFeM_chirwD13VgJ6QDxY-n-iGvqj3dOjACAdD2ZDJy4

CharleeFoxtrot, BSN, RN · May 9, 2020

8 hours ago, Kooky Korky said:

8 hours ago, Kooky Korky said:
She says she is not anti-vax.
What is her scam?

She is promoting a book and a movie so there is a huge financial incentive here.

JKL33 · May 9, 2020

11 hours ago, Kooky Korky said:
What is her scam?

Based upon my reading of the rebuttals and some information about her past work, it seems like she is a discredited scientist (especially wrt irregularities in her work involving CFS/chronic fatigue?) who no longer has a career in science so has decided that her only option is to take up a position that is well beyond the fringes.

Wuzzie · May 9, 2020

I particularly enjoyed the part in the video where the one doctor says he’s being told to add “Covid” as a cause of death when he signs the death certificate. Ummmmm. He owns a chain of Urgent Cares and practices in them. Thinking might not want to go to any of them if he’s signing DC’s for the patients there.

Serhilda, ADN, RN · May 9, 2020

Seriously? You have no idea what's true and what isn't? Why are you, or anyone else for that matter, giving this quack any consideration? Do your research on every single one of her claims through a reliable source just like you did in nursing school and the truth versus conspiracy isn't difficult to differentiate.

Guest219794 · May 9, 2020

2 minutes ago, Serhilda said:
Seriously? You have no idea what's true and what isn't? Why are you, or anyone else for that matter, giving this quack any consideration? Do your research on every single one of her claims through a reliable source just like you did in nursing school and the truth versus conspiracy isn't difficult to differentiate.

I don't know about that. I have gotten a lot of really reliable information on facebook.

Kooky Korky, BSN, RN · May 10, 2020

5 hours ago, Serhilda said:
Seriously? You have no idea what's true and what isn't? Why are you, or anyone else for that matter, giving this quack any consideration? Do your research on every single one of her claims through a reliable source just like you did in nursing school and the truth versus conspiracy isn't difficult to differentiate.

Seriously.

The reason to give consideration to anyone about anything is that when you are on the outside,

you are not on the inside.

Just exactly, exactly how do we determine what research to believe and what not to believe?

What exactly makes a source reliable and what makes it not reliable? Being peer-reviewed is no guarantee. Life is awfully uncertain. Just because someone seems wrong or right, truthful or otherwise doesn't mean that is so.

Life is filled with differing opinions and differing interpretations. Just like having to get temp checks every time you enter a store, clinic, or office. There are many, many reasons besides this blasted virus that someone might have a temp. How about other infections, the weather, hot flashes, strong emotion skewing VS, other? And anyone can pop some anti-pyretic before going somewhere where temps are checked and likely beat the thermometer. So it seems rather foolish and unhelpful to do all of this temp checking.

I don't know why this woman would want to risk slander or libel charges by Dr. Fauci, for instance, by saying some of the things she is saying if they are untrue.

One thing I do question about her is that she says she was not able to get a lawyer to defend her. I think, though, that an attorney would have been appointed to her if she had requested that. I think.

I also wonder about her saying there was no search warrant, no arrest warrant. And a 4 year gag order also doesn't seem to ring quite true.

On the other hand, why would she say these things if untrue? It is probably easy enough to verify the existence of warrants, although these could be phonied up easily enough.

And we should not assume the innocence of Dr. Fauci or anyone else she mentions. They are mere mortals, able to be tempted, I guess, by hopes of fame and fortune..

I just don't know what to believe.

toomuchbaloney · May 10, 2020

5 hours ago, Kooky Korky said:
Seriously.
The reason to give consideration to anyone about anything is that when you are on the outside,
you are not on the inside.
Just exactly, exactly how do we determine what research to believe and what not to believe?
What exactly makes a source reliable and what makes it not reliable? Being peer-reviewed is no guarantee. Life is awfully uncertain. Just because someone seems wrong or right, truthful or otherwise doesn't mean that is so.
Life is filled with differing opinions and differing interpretations. Just like having to get temp checks every time you enter a store, clinic, or office. There are many, many reasons besides this blasted virus that someone might have a temp. How about other infections, the weather, hot flashes, strong emotion skewing VS, other? And anyone can pop some anti-pyretic before going somewhere where temps are checked and likely beat the thermometer. So it seems rather foolish and unhelpful to do all of this temp checking.
I don't know why this woman would want to risk slander or libel charges by Dr. Fauci, for instance, by saying some of the things she is saying if they are untrue.
One thing I do question about her is that she says she was not able to get a lawyer to defend her. I think, though, that an attorney would have been appointed to her if she had requested that. I think.
I also wonder about her saying there was no search warrant, no arrest warrant. And a 4 year gag order also doesn't seem to ring quite true.
On the other hand, why would she say these things if untrue? It is probably easy enough to verify the existence of warrants, although these could be phonied up easily enough.
And we should not assume the innocence of Dr. Fauci or anyone else she mentions. They are mere mortals, able to be tempted, I guess, by hopes of fame and fortune..
I just don't know what to believe.

Of course you should assume the innocence and credibility of Dr. Fauci at this time. You have access to plenty of very professional history with his career and ZERO evidence that he has done anything except his job, to the best of his ability under very difficult circumstances. Why are you tempted to believe something which is contrary to all evidence available you? Crackpots are not uncommon today.

**LibraSunCNM, BSN, MSN, CNM** · May 10, 2020

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/09/technology/plandemic-judy-mikovitz-coronavirus-disinformation.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Guest219794 · May 10, 2020

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Seriously.
The reason to give consideration to anyone about anything is that when you are on the outside,

This is when the opinions of those on the inside matter. What do experts in her field think of her work? Is she often cited in other research? Who are the people supporting her statements, and what are their qualifications?

Relying on expert opinion is nothing new. We have done it forever.

While all opinions can get an audience given modern communication and media options, that does not mean they all deserve equal consideration. My banker might have an opinion on which water pump will work best in my house, but I value the plumber's opinion more. Conversely, when it comes to retirement, I think I'll go with the banker.

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On the other hand, why would she say these things if untrue?

People say untrue stuff all the time. Some people are famous for publicly stating demonstrable falsehoods as though they were facts.