Is someone justified in harassing someone to tell them if they got vaccinated or not?

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Say you got vaccinated and choose not to stand in the middle of the street to tell the world. Yet friend or coworker keeps nagging you to tell them if you did or not 

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7 minutes ago, NICU Guy said:

Then why is California at 53% vaccinated and New York at 57% vaccinated? Using your logic, they should be near 80-90%.

https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-political-geography/

Are you looking for simple answers? If so you'll need to stick with Tucker's simple thinking on the subject...or some similar simplification. 

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On 8/1/2021 at 5:14 AM, vetpharmtech said:

Absolutely not. I trust efficacy of Covid vaccine, but I also believe in freedom of conscience. We have to take care of our own health after all. We cannot rely on other people's compliance for our well-being. Shaming them into vaccination is not a way to go.

If they can't be shamed into vaccination then society will just move on to mandates and vaccine passes. I've read that some of the previously resistant in the usual culprit states are now requesting shots.  Why should these people be allowed to cause such suffering and expenses for the rest of us?  

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32 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The mRNA vaccines are safe and effective.

Except that Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccine delivery system, has voiced concerns over the Japanese study that showed that the lipid nanoparticles, the “boxes” the mRNA is shipped in, did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine’s developers claimed would happen, but were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

I wouldn't call the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. 

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"Prior to the Covid vaccine everyone is screaming "Don't trust Big Pharma". After the vaccine, everyone is "Trust Big Pharma, they wouldn't jeopardize people's health for profits". 

 

As a patient safety activist and advocate, I have had no love lost a lot of times for "big Pharma".  Opioids are a great example of a huge problem that both made money for big pharma and kills a lot of people with addictions.  But, nobody is happier than me or my colleagues when Big Pharma gets it right.  They got it right with the COVID vaccines.  After full FDA approval, many Maine healthcare facilities and schools will mandate the vaccine.  Human intelligence should make this step unnecessary, but we all know about the current prevalence of human intelligence,

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11 minutes ago, NICU Guy said:

Except that Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccine delivery system, has voiced concerns over the Japanese study that showed that the lipid nanoparticles, the “boxes” the mRNA is shipped in, did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine’s developers claimed would happen, but were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

I wouldn't call the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. 

 

12 minutes ago, NICU Guy said:

Except that Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccine delivery system, has voiced concerns over the Japanese study that showed that the lipid nanoparticles, the “boxes” the mRNA is shipped in, did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine’s developers claimed would happen, but were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

I wouldn't call the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. 

He was not the " literal inventor" of mmRNA but he does wear the tin hat. 

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16 minutes ago, NICU Guy said:

Except that Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccine delivery system, has voiced concerns over the Japanese study that showed that the lipid nanoparticles, the “boxes” the mRNA is shipped in, did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine’s developers claimed would happen, but were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

I wouldn't call the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. 

Tin foil is tin foil...

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22 minutes ago, NICU Guy said:

Except that Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccine delivery system, has voiced concerns over the Japanese study that showed that the lipid nanoparticles, the “boxes” the mRNA is shipped in, did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine’s developers claimed would happen, but were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

I wouldn't call the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. 

You do realize that there are 27 FDA approved drugs that use "pegylation" as a means of transport? This is not new technology.

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26 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

You do realize that there are 27 FDA approved drugs that use "pegylation" as a means of transport? This is not new technology.

It's likely that the member doesn't understand any of that...that's why he is afraid to vaccinate. 

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3 hours ago, NICU Guy said:

Except that Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccine delivery system, has voiced concerns over the Japanese study that showed that the lipid nanoparticles, the “boxes” the mRNA is shipped in, did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine’s developers claimed would happen, but were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

I wouldn't call the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. 

Please provide peer reviewed source for this bold claim

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8 minutes ago, hppygr8ful said:

Please provide peer reviewed source for this bold claim

This should be interesting as the verbiage he used was straight from the "Children's Health Defense" site. Hmmmm a known anti-vax site. I wonder if they have an agenda? ? 

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3 hours ago, NICU Guy said:

Except that Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccine delivery system, has voiced concerns over the Japanese study that showed that the lipid nanoparticles, the “boxes” the mRNA is shipped in, did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine’s developers claimed would happen, but were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

I wouldn't call the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. 

Dr. Malone once wrote a paper on the topic of mRNA therapeutics, but did not invent an mRNA vaccine delivery system.  He has revealed however that he's pursuing multiple business ventures related to treating Covid symptoms, large scale vaccination is counterproductive to those ventures.

"Lipid nanoparticles" might sound nefarious, but what it refers to is a phospholipid layer around the mRNA, which is something most of the cells in your body have.  Your body is well versed at processing the tiny layers of fat that surround cells.

Dr. Malone has revealed that he has received the Moderna vaccine, he may be an aspiring pandemic profiteer but he's not crazy.

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Staying on topic. Remember that many black people are also hesitant to get the vaccine. Some are weary because of history. When people get a sense of "you better do this or else" even if the "this" is proven to help them they will naturally shut themselves off from it.

So if someone gets IN YOUR FACE demanding to know if you got vaccinated. You would feel put off if you did or didn't. I don't think such a tactic will make someone on the fence run out and get it.

 

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