Is someone justified in harassing someone to tell them if they got vaccinated or not?

[DesiDani]

Say you got vaccinated and choose not to stand in the middle of the street to tell the world. Yet friend or coworker keeps nagging you to tell them if you did or not 

[nursej22, MSN, RN]

No, they are not justified to nag at you or harass you. You tell them that is personal health information and you will not discuss it. Then walk away. If co-worker continues, then you could go to the supervisor or manager. If its a friend, then you say you value them as a friend and know that they respect your privacy. 

[JKL33]

Well I wouldn't say that deciding to reveal the info to a friend or coworker who asks is similar to standing in the middle of the road and annoying passersby with the information. So I'd probably just tell whoever asked me that I got vaccinated at the earliest opportunity (true), no nagging required.

If I didn't appreciate their approach I'd probably tell them that they have to divulge their reason for needing to know and then I will decide about answering. ??‍♀️

[toomuchbaloney]

It's pretty unfortunate that vaccination against a deadly pandemic has become so polarized that people are embarrassed or worried to tell their friends or peers that they have been vaccinated.   One public health official said in an interview that they were offering discreet opportunities for covid vaccination.  

[JKL33]

Just now, toomuchbaloney said:

One public health official said in an interview that they were offering discreet opportunities for covid vaccination.  

I can't find the right emoji for this; it's something between eyeroll and smirk. But maybe I'm just naïve. Is this official suggesting that despite the fact that one can receive, as a matter of routine procedure, healthcare for many different types of situations they may not want others knowing about, but discreet covid vax is special/necessary thing?

Inform me.

Cause I'm not a fan of drama no matter where it comes from, and this sounds very similar to run of the mill drama.

[heron, ASN, RN]

1 hour ago, JKL33 said:

I can't find the right emoji for this; it's something between eyeroll and smirk. But maybe I'm just naïve. Is this official suggesting that despite the fact that one can receive, as a matter of routine procedure, healthcare for many different types of situations they may not want others knowing about, but discreet covid vax is special/necessary thing?

Inform me.

Cause I'm not a fan of drama no matter where it comes from, and this sounds very similar to run of the mill drama.

What, exactly, is your question?

The covidiot crowd isn’t known for reasoned opinions or behavior. Further, Covid isn’t the only vaccination that some - specifically teenaged minors - have sought confidentiality when they chose to get vaccinated.

If I had a significant number of covidiots in my immediate social circle, I would want confidentiality as well.

[macawake, MSN]

7 hours ago, DesiDani said:

Say you got vaccinated and choose not to stand in the middle of the street to tell the world. Yet friend or coworker keeps nagging you to tell them if you did or not 

Why is it hard to just say; yes I’ve been vaccinated when asked by a friend or coworker? Unless they’re known anti-vaxxers and you can anticipate a barrage of disinformation and recrimination following your revelation, why not simply put their minds at ease? Considering we’re healthcare professionals, getting vaccinated against an infectious disease isn’t something that ought to raise eyebrows… 

Telling friends and coworkers, people who spend time close to you on a regular basis, that you’ve been vaccinated is hardly the same as standing in the middle of a street and shouting it out to the world. 

This might just be me, but in the unlikely event that I had an anti-vaxxer friend or coworker, I would tell them anyway. I consider people who oppose safe vaccines a danger to society and will take every chance I get to share facts. But fortunately, I don’t have any people at all in my personal life who don’t believe in the benefit of vaccines. 

[Wuzzie]

My employer lightened up the mask policy in offices and work rooms. If everyone is vaccinated the masks can come off but if even one person isn't the masks stay on. Well, the unvaccinated ***ed and moaned about having to reveal their unvaccinated status so now we can't ask and we have to mask at all times. Thanks a bunch! 

[toomuchbaloney]

10 hours ago, JKL33 said:

I can't find the right emoji for this; it's something between eyeroll and smirk. But maybe I'm just naïve. Is this official suggesting that despite the fact that one can receive, as a matter of routine procedure, healthcare for many different types of situations they may not want others knowing about, but discreet covid vax is special/necessary thing?

Inform me.

Cause I'm not a fan of drama no matter where it comes from, and this sounds very similar to run of the mill drama.

Maybe you haven't met any aggressive antivaxxers. They can be very abusive in person. Their opinions are based in emotional response so the interactions quickly become emotional. They can't provide compelling facts so the arguments are centered in analysis and opinion and concern.  

I know a few antivaxxers personally.

[BostonFNP, APRN]

IMHO, in the setting of a ongoing pandemic, every person has a responsibility to those around them to be honest about their vaccination status. 

I'd wager 99.9% of people that are uncomfortable being nagged about their vaccination status are unvaccinated folks. The fact they are uncomfortable about it, ironically, demonstrates that somewhere deep down they know they should be and feel embarrassed/guilty they aren't. 

For that other 0.1% that feel uncomfortable telling someone they are vaccinated, I'd offer this: you got vaccinated for a reason, feel comfortable sharing that reason to anyone, maybe a skeptical acquaintance would listen to you and make a better informed decision for themselves. Antivaxxers are emotional and irrational and debating them is often fruitless, however, if we don't push back on these people their pseudoscience gets a opportunity to take root in the minds of those they may not be totally decided yet. 

[JKL33]

No, I get that. It's just that medical care, in general, can be obtained confidentially. If someone's rabid anti-vaxxer neighbor sees them in a waiting room or at a healthcare provider, they are not obligated to say that they're there for a covid vaccination. I can understand why receiving the vax at an event or vaccine clinic may raise the issue of confidentiality, but at least in my area it is no longer necessary to receive the vaccine in one of those settings. It is being offered in primary care offices, EDs, etc., etc.

I guess I just find it hard to believe that people can still get their gonorrhea treated without everyone finding out about it, but special confidential procedures are needed for Covid vaccines. I find that very hard to believe; it begs the question of reason on the very surface of it.

I am only discussing this point because it isn't a neutral claim on the part of that public official; it is sending a message about other people whether those people are actually causing the particular problem in question or not. And all I'm saying is it better be true because hysteria on either side makes things worse.

8 hours ago, heron said:

What, exactly, is your question?

The covidiot crowd isn’t known for reasoned opinions or behavior. Further, Covid isn’t the only vaccination that some - specifically teenaged minors - have sought confidentiality when they chose to get vaccinated.

If I had a significant number of covidiots in my immediate social circle, I would want confidentiality as well.

Hello, @heron

I wasn't asking a question.

See my response above.

[Wuzzie]

15 minutes ago, BostonFNP said:

I'd wager 99.9% of people that are uncomfortable being nagged about their vaccination status are unvaccinated folks. The fact they are uncomfortable about it, ironically, demonstrates that somewhere deep down they know they should be and feel embarrassed/guilty they aren't. 

This about a million times!