How soon can we expect to see cases go down now that Biden is president?

subee, MSN, CRNA · Nov 14, 2020

On 11/8/2020 at 2:20 PM, DesiDani said:

Will there never be another surge of positive cases and deaths now?

What do you think? What would be logical here? How would a giant freighter going at a fast rate of speed in the ocean make a quick 180 degree turn?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Nov 14, 2020

I think we have our answer. The US had a staggering 184,000 cases yesterday, so that would a no.

toomuchbaloney · Nov 14, 2020

The American case numbers are destined to reflect the selfish antisocial practice of avoiding masks and gathering in crowds to worship the IMPOTUS #3. Hopefully that practice will begin to wane in frequency and enthusiasm as Trumpism fades out of our daily media diet. As Trump becomes less relevant to daily political life his covid nonsense becomes less influential to the masses.

allnurses Guide · Nov 14, 2020

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macawake, MSN · Nov 15, 2020

On 11/8/2020 at 8:20 PM, DesiDani said:

Will there never be another surge of positive cases and deaths now?

I have to admit, I’m actually struggling a bit to not become annoyed with your question. Coming from a nurse the question is simply a bit more naive than I’d expect. Unless it’s only a veiled way of criticizing those who have put a lot of the blame of how the pandemic has evolved in the U.S. on President Trump’s doorstep?

First of all, the OUTGOING administration are still in charge for another two months. They are also not at all doing what they can to assure a smooth transition.

Secondly, look at the world around you. Look at all the countries that are struggling with big outbreaks and high death tolls. What is one of the things they all have in common? They do not have President Trump leading their countries. So of course it’s not as simple as new leadership automatically leading to the cessation of disease spread. This is a pandemic that large parts of the world is having difficulties controlling.

What I am hoping that we’ll see in the U.S. with new leadership, is a more structured and consistent approach. I think it will be helpful to not have a President who tweets ”liberate” this state or that one, as state leadership attempts to bring community spread under control. I think it will be helpful to have a President who supports his scientists instead of sabotaging and disparaging them. I think it will be helpful to have a President who doesn’t view conflict as a strategy and who doesn’t habitually fan the flames of discord.

Somehow you’ve ended up in a place where choosing to wear a mask or not, has become a symbol of which political party you vote for. That is not a constructive way to tackle a pandemic.

J.B.Chan, BSN · Nov 15, 2020

I believe most people, regardless of Democratic or Republican, are 100% over this pandemic. Hopefully, the vaccine will offer some relief.

I also hope that no matter what people's political preferences are- that we can forge ahead in unity through this pandemic and put an end to it as soon as possible.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Nov 15, 2020

1 hour ago, J.B.Chan said:

I believe most people, regardless of Democratic or Republican, are 100% over this pandemic.

But the Pandemic is NOT over with those living on Earth. Gotta keep up wearing multiple layer masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing daily.

toomuchbaloney · Nov 15, 2020

1 hour ago, J.B.Chan said:

I believe most people, regardless of Democratic or Republican, are 100% over this pandemic. Hopefully, the vaccine will offer some relief.

I also hope that no matter what people's political preferences are- that we can forge ahead in unity through this pandemic and put an end to it as soon as possible.

I'm not certain what you mean by "over this pandemic". Many of us are clearly tired of wearing masks and avoiding the things we would like to do while watching an alarming number of Americans refuse to follow the mitigation strategies and guarantee an American pandemic disaster...because of partisan nonsense. We are tired of doing the right thing while the IMPOTUS encourages the wrong thing...in terms of pandemic response.

J.B.Chan, BSN · Nov 15, 2020

Yes, I am keenly aware that the pandemic is NOT over and will NOT be over for quite a time. When I said we over it- I meant that we are ALL tired of the pandemic. I was not implying that we should stop wearing masks, PPE, social distancing and stop practicing excellent hand hygiene, testing, etc., etc..

Had we handled this situation correctly many months ago- we would not be where we are now.

8 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

But the Pandemic is NOT over with those living on Earth. Gotta keep up wearing multiple layer masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing daily.

J.B.Chan, BSN · Nov 15, 2020

14 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I'm not certain what you mean by "over this pandemic". Many of us are clearly tired of wearing masks and avoiding the things we would like to do while watching an alarming number of Americans refuse to follow the mitigation strategies and guarantee an American pandemic disaster...because of partisan nonsense. We are tired of doing the right thing while the IMPOTUS encourages the wrong thing...in terms of pandemic response.

Yes, I am keenly aware that the pandemic is NOT over and will NOT be over for quite a time. When I said we over it- I meant that we are ALL tired of the pandemic. I was not implying that we should stop wearing masks, PPE, social distancing and stop practicing excellent hand hygiene, testing, etc., etc..

Had we handled this situation correctly many months ago- we would not be where we are now.

Kyrshamarks, BSN, RN · Nov 19, 2020

Several things:

1: Biden is NOT the President, nor is he even the President Elect. Not one electoral vote has been cast for anyone until Dec 8.

2: They cannot mandate no gatherings and mask wearing, gatherings are actually protected under the Constitution. Masks should be worn but you cannot dictate someone wear a mask, Think yellow Stars and the 1930's and 40's.

3: This disease IS NOT GOING AWAY EVER! We have to learn how to live with it and still live our lives . It is alot more survivable than the media and politicos let on. As nurses we see the illness up close. And don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about. I have spent the last year as a travel nurse in the ER's and ICU's of hotspots. New Orleans, NYC, New Mexico and now the Navajo/Hopi Nation.

toomuchbaloney · Nov 19, 2020

11 hours ago, Kyrshamarks said:

Several things:

1: Biden is NOT the President, nor is he even the President Elect. Not one electoral vote has been cast for anyone until Dec 8.

2: They cannot mandate no gatherings and mask wearing, gatherings are actually protected under the Constitution. Masks should be worn but you cannot dictate someone wear a mask, Think yellow Stars and the 1930's and 40's.

3: This disease IS NOT GOING AWAY EVER! We have to learn how to live with it and still live our lives . It is alot more survivable than the media and politicos let on. As nurses we see the illness up close. And don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about. I have spent the last year as a travel nurse in the ER's and ICU's of hotspots. New Orleans, NYC, New Mexico and now the Navajo/Hopi Nation.

1. LOL.

2. Fines and fees can be associated with maskless presence in public. The amount of the fine can escalate with each occurrence. Masks protect people during a pandemic...yellow stars were used to identify Jews for separation and persecution...it's odd that you think they are somehow similar.

3. The fact that is not going away is all the more reason that everyone should be wearing masks and practicing crowd avoidance. We're not concerned wih how survivable you believe it is, the problem comes from how deadly it is for a significant portion of the population. It's also odd that a traveling crisis staffing RN would be so cavalier about the suffering and death that you have presumably witnessed. It's especially distressing to understand that strong leadership from the federal government would likely have prevented some of the deaths.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-19s-other-unnecessary-death-toll/

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What many fail to realize is that if the United States had a rapid, organized pandemic response on a national level, this not only would have saved tens of thousands of lives from the COVID-19 virus itself, but also would have given people with serious chronic conditions, including heart disease and cancer, a better chance of getting the treatment they need for survival. For those with unsurvivable disease, this would have given them a hospital bed, a goals-of-care conversation including the patient and their loved ones, and the time they needed to manage their death on their own terms.