Getting off the "do not hire" list?

[cmf2021]

I'm new here, so hello! ?

I have been trolling for a few days, but had something come up today, so figured I would go ahead and ask.

I have been looking to change jobs, and have been working with a recruiter. I interviewed for a job via the phone the other day, and was told by the recruiter to expect a job offer. The employer is actually through a hospital system that I worked for almost 10 years ago. I didn't even think twice about it, until today when she told me that I was listed as ineligible for rehire. Now, thinking back, I did have some trouble with some allegations people had made against me, and I ended up resigning. So they must have put me on a do not rehire list. The thing is, all they were were allegations. Nothing was ever proven, because, there was nothing to prove. It was all just gossip, and finger pointing. I called the HR dept today to find out what my personnel record states, but I was not able to get any answers. A person in HR said that its sometimes possible to get the status of your eligibility changed, but the HR managers have to review your personnel record first. So as of right now, my job offer is at a stand still because I don't know if this ever happens or not. Has anyone ever had this happen? Where they were on a "do not hire" list, but were able to get it converted back? And if so, how did they do it? I had no idea that I was even on it! And how embarrassing to find out by my recruiter telling me! 

[NurseSpeedy, ADN, LPN, RN]

On 1/27/2021 at 1:33 AM, cmf2021 said:

Interesting...

now let me ask you all another question.

Had I not been so honest, would I have perhaps gotten the job? 
let me explain- when I worked there before I wasn’t married, so I had a different name. on the application it gave me the opportunity to exclude them from the application altogether. I didn’t know they would be a problem so I didn’t think otherwise, but if I had, and left them off of my employment history and didn’t put my previous name down on the application, would they have even have known I had worked there? I’m not saying it’s the right thing to do, I’m just wondering if they would have allowed it through. Does it get triggered by the SS#?

They will find out, likely through your social, and then you will probably never have a chance for employment because now you lied about your employment history (by not including it or just checking no instead of yes for previously employment with them). I worked for HCA as an LPN under my maiden name but through their agency. When I worked for them 10 years later as an RN employee- new name and title- same employee 3/4 ID number-was told same ID for life-no matter what role. The first file was from 2005....so the records go way back.

[NurseSpeedy, ADN, LPN, RN]

4 hours ago, JBMmom said:

I think I can personally attest to this because a couple months ago I was helping a patient out of bed and he peed down my whole leg. It was the first time I could say that someone else peed my pants. Fortunately I had spare scrub pants in my locker, but I was pretty annoyed about the wet shoe until I could get home and wash it. 

Had that happen years ago, small hospital, last hour of a 16 hour shift. Borrowed OR scrub pants-stripped off the shoe and sock and washed my leg/foot well since isolation patient (got the part that the gown didn't cover-I’m tall. And earned a patient sock and OR booty shoe cover  for the end of the 10pm-11pm hour.  Thinking back, I must of been quite a site to the oncoming shift-worked a double and got peed on for it!

[monkey205]

Request a copy of your HR file - you are entitled to it.  Go from there!  Good luck. 

[chare]

55 minutes ago, monkey205 said:

Request a copy of your HR file - you are entitled to it.  Go from there!  Good luck. 

This varies state to state.

State Laws on Access to Your Personnel File

[GrumpyOldBastard, MSN, RN]

An employer may not care if the allegations were true or not.  It may simply be that you were too much hassle to have around.  

[BetterTomorrowThanToday]

On 1/26/2021 at 10:14 AM, Davey Do said:

Oh geez.

Now I'm on a "Do Not Pompously Use Esoteric Adverbs" list!

BONUS POINTS!! 
No “geez” here — you have to veraciously and gallantly own your vocab!! 

Davey Do, we all NEED more COWBELL, err, I mean wordplay.

Perhaps pin a worDD of the Day. That should be a thing. 
 

I might have had a huge vocabulary at one time, but with COVID lockdown, isolation and general circumstances I’m down to using about 200 words. Horrifically, I also admit that far too many only have 4 letters ?. Reminder to self: must do better  

Thanks for the smile. 

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[Jedrnurse, BSN, RN]

16 minutes ago, BetterTomorrowThanToday said:

BONUS POINTS!! 
No “geez” here — you have to veraciously and gallantly own your vocab!! 

I'm sure that list is growing bigly.

[Alexandria, CNA]

I had a job offer, accepted it, went through the physicals, labs, and was set to start orientation on a Monday in June 2018. On the way to that orientation on Monday, my car broke down. I called, no answer. I emailed them and told them the situation. I kept trying to get ahold of them, but was also dealing with AAA and a mechanic. 
 

I finally heard back from them that afternoon. “The hiring manager is no longer interested in keeping you on. But feel free to apply again once you get your car back.” 
 

I applied soon after and was told I was blacklisted. This is Scripps Hospital system in San Diego. They are huge! 
 

I had some cardiac issue in 2019 and had to go to the closest ER, Scripps Mercy. Oh my... that was the worst experience I’ve had at a hospital, working or not. It was like Grey’s Anatomy, where they were all chatting & flirting. They would gossip about the patients right in the open. And to top it off, my ER doctor falsified my medical records in order to cover his butt. 
 

I’m glad I don’t work for Scripps! I work for Sharp Health Care now and they’re just okay. My first acute care job in super rural California was the best quality across the board, these big hospitals can’t compete! 
 

 

[NurseKateP, ADN, BSN, RN]

The only instance I've heard of a coworker being ineligible for rehire other than someone who was fired was when a coworker did not give adequate notice.  One month written notice was required, and she only gave a 2-week resignation.  She was notified when she submitted her resignation letter that she would be ineligible for rehire if she wasn't able to give a full month notice.

I didn't know until this thread that employers do not have to provide you with information about why you are ineligible for rehire.

[cmf2021]

1 minute ago, NurseKateP said:

The only instance I've heard of a coworker being ineligible for rehire other than someone who was fired was when a coworker did not give adequate notice.  One month written notice was required, and she only gave a 2-week resignation.  She was notified when she submitted her resignation letter that she would be ineligible for rehire if she wasn't able to give a full month notice.

I didn't know until this thread that employers do not have to provide you with information about why you are ineligible for rehire.

I didn’t know it either obviously! This has been quite the learning experience for me! 

[FashionablyL8, CNA, LPN]

I was actually put on "The List" years ago by a home care company (not as a nurse, as a PCA). I was fired for the henious crime of being late with my time slips. My clients loved me, I was very reliable, but I guess I inconvenienced them at the office. Absolutely I should have been more careful but I think it may have been r/t them wanting me to pick up more hours and I wasn't interested; it was easier to give my clients to someone who could take a whole bunch of clients in the same area, thus simplifying the schedule.

Maybe 5 years after that I went to apply for a job and put them down in the interest of full disclosure. I didn't get the job and got curious, called my old job and found out I had been put on the "do not rehire" list. It was embarrassing because I'm sure the hiring manager for my almost-new job thought I got fired for something much worse. So I guess ya just never know... 

OP,  I'm glad you got another job offer! 

[Kooky Korky, BSN, RN]

On 1/26/2021 at 12:25 PM, Davey Do said:

I quit Weed Rover Township Hospital the last day of 1990, and received a telephone call from Lenora, the NS of the unit I worked on, some years later.  Lenora had been a staff nurse when I worked at Weed Rover and was looking for nurses.  To think that I would work with some old cohorts on my old unit got pretty excited and I immediately applied.

The problem was, the former DON had retired, and the new DON had a reputation for being a real bat, so my application was not accepted.

But, like I said, the hospital closed down a few years later.

Off the top of my head, I don't know, Jed. I'd have to get out my files out on that one. But at Wrongway, I was at the top of the list of nurses who make other nurses cry.

I even made a big brute of a male nurse cry and he telephoned the director thereafter at around MN on weekend. She, in turn, called me, asked me to recall the situation, and asked me what I thought the problem was.

I said, "He's a real reactionary".

At midnight?   What in the world did you say?????