I have been trolling for a few days, but had something come up today, so figured I would go ahead and ask.
I have been looking to change jobs, and have been working with a recruiter. I interviewed for a job via the phone the other day, and was told by the recruiter to expect a job offer. The employer is actually through a hospital system that I worked for almost 10 years ago. I didn't even think twice about it, until today when she told me that I was listed as ineligible for rehire. Now, thinking back, I did have some trouble with some allegations people had made against me, and I ended up resigning. So they must have put me on a do not rehire list. The thing is, all they were were allegations. Nothing was ever proven, because, there was nothing to prove. It was all just gossip, and finger pointing. I called the HR dept today to find out what my personnel record states, but I was not able to get any answers. A person in HR said that its sometimes possible to get the status of your eligibility changed, but the HR managers have to review your personnel record first. So as of right now, my job offer is at a stand still because I don't know if this ever happens or not. Has anyone ever had this happen? Where they were on a "do not hire" list, but were able to get it converted back? And if so, how did they do it? I had no idea that I was even on it! And how embarrassing to find out by my recruiter telling me!
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
8 minutes ago, Kooky Korky said:
At midnight? What in the world did you say?????
It seems to me that I merely requested the specifics of some lab and/or test results on a couple of compromised patients. When he attempted to shine me on, I was confrontive with him.
Had that happen years ago, small hospital, last hour of a 16 hour shift. Borrowed OR scrub pants-stripped off the shoe and sock and washed my leg/foot well since isolation patient (got the part that the gown didn't cover-I’m tall. And earned a patient sock and OR booty shoe cover for the end of the 10pm-11pm hour. Thinking back, I must of been quite a site to the oncoming shift-worked a double and got peed on for it!
A sweet, elderly eye surgery gentleman had been prepped to poop pre-op. How's that for a Davey Do word thing? LOL
Anyway, he didn't poop pre-op. He did poop post-op as I helped him OOB. Down my leg. Yes, a leg pooping. Geez Louise! I couldn't be mad, he was so sweet, totally embarrassed. I was a CNA at the time.
Was once blacklisted by an agency because of a med error. Long story, no harm to pt, Thank God. Just the old boot in my butt. Wow, another DD thing!
Quit a job once, thought I was in good standing. Wanted to go back later, found out I was a "no rehire". Well fiddlepoop. DD isn't the only word maker upper here, LOL.
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
1 minute ago, Kooky Korky said:
A sweet, elderly eye surgery gentleman had been prepped to poop pre-op. How's that for a Davey Do word thing? LOL
Thank you for the recognition, Kooky Korky!
I would like to take credit for the occurrence of the same letter or sound at the beginning of adjacent or closely connected words, but some guy by the name of alliteration got there first.
It seems to me that I merely requested the specifics of some lab and/or test results on a couple of compromised patients. When he attempted to shine me on, I was confrontive with him.
Wow! He sounds like a nut! Or just pushed beyond his ability to deal.
Specializes in Case management, Home Health, Nursing Supervisor.
25 minutes ago, FashionablyL8 said:
I was actually put on "The List" years ago by a home care company (not as a nurse, as a PCA). I was fired for the henious crime of being late with my time slips. My clients loved me, I was very reliable, but I guess I inconvenienced them at the office. Absolutely I should have been more careful but I think it may have been r/t them wanting me to pick up more hours and I wasn't interested; it was easier to give my clients to someone who could take a whole bunch of clients in the same area, thus simplifying the schedule.
Maybe 5 years after that I went to apply for a job and put them down in the interest of full disclosure. I didn't get the job and got curious, called my old job and found out I had been put on the "do not rehire" list. It was embarrassing because I'm sure the hiring manager for my almost-new job thought I got fired for something much worse. So I guess ya just never know...
OP, I'm glad you got another job offer!
That’s awful! I’m so sorry that happened to you! It’s places like that that ruin our chances at employment. That’s a ridiculous reason for them to put you on a list & to destroy your chance at another opportunity down the road.
I’m on this list at this huge conglomerate of a healthcare facility & I don’t even know why. They won’t disclose the information to me. I have an idea as to why it may be, but if that’s the reason, it has nothing to do with my work performance. Like I had mentioned in a previous posting, it was all workplace gossip. But whatever I guess, thank you for the well wishes. Life does go on & luckily I have been able to find work elsewhere. I do hope that that workplace didn’t cause you too much trouble finding work down the road! ?
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
5 hours ago, BetterTomorrowThanToday said:
Perhaps pin a worDD of the Day. That should be a thing.
Staying on topic with the do not hire thing, we could say that an employer would be giving the applicant "the cold shoulder", which has its origins in the early 1800s. It was said that welcomed visitors to a house were served a hot meal but someone who was not welcome was given a cold shoulder of whatever meat was a left over.
Cmf, it actually turned out to be a blessing that I didn't get that job. I ended up getting hired at another place working with individuals with intellectual disabilities and it turned out to be my thing ?. Never would have found out if I stayed in geriatric home care! So sometimes life has a way of guiding us to where we need to go.
However, I'm not saying that your situation is fair or right at all. It must be unsettling and frustrating not to know what is in that file, especially in light of the gossip situation. Seems that if it was about anything else, you would have an idea what the problem was. I'm always disappointed when gossip and unkindness can be so influential in a profession that IMO is very much based on facts/science and human caring.
Anyway, the situation definitely sucks but you never know what doors will open in the future. I hope your new job ends up being great!
Well I did request a call back from the HR dept & requested that this be overturned. They called me back this afternoon and simply stated that they couldn’t overturn it. She didn’t offer me any other information and when I tried to get some information, I was shot down.
Don’t I have a right to know what is written in my employee file? it’s a little aggravating that whatever is written in there seems to be some big secret.
Because it's a large hospital system I would engage an employment lawyer whether you want the job or not. People in HR move around and if they want to paint you with that brush, you should live up to it. It's your reputation especially if you hadn't done anything wrong. I would attach a caveat of suing for damages as well. I ran this by my Dad who has his own law firm and it's his suggestion. He's a great person to argue with because he's very belligerent and an easy wind up. I ended up with a great bottle of wine for getting him going by the way, so thank you for that.
Before you do anything if you want my advice, make sure you save all the emails from the recruiter or anything relevant to the case. If you still have friends who work there contact them for a reference or to obtain information re your situation when you were there.
If they capitulate, insist on a contract but with a two week notice only on your side initially, with your rationale being they are likely to make you feel unwelcome. Unless they have relevant grounds for putting you on the list, you should win. You are likely to find relevant information going forward regardless of the outcome and you will be putting them on notice of bad practices. It's very unlikely that there's anything bad because you would have had a completely different response from your recruiter and the hospital.
If you take the job you should be okay because a precedent has been set re their HR mismanagement. It's really a win, win situation for you if you hadn't done anything bad. Blacklisting is actually frowned upon especially re state laws.
You also need to try several lawyers to Guage prices and feel of the person.
Specializes in Mental health, substance abuse, geriatrics, PCU.
38 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:
Because it's a large hospital system I would engage an employment lawyer whether you want the job or not. People in HR move around and if they want to paint you with that brush, you should live up to it. It's your reputation especially if you hadn't done anything wrong. I would attach a caveat of suing for damages as well. I ran this by my Dad who has his own law firm and it's his suggestion. He's a great person to argue with because he's very belligerent and an easy wind up. I ended up with a great bottle of wine for getting him going by the way, so thank you for that.
Before you do anything if you want my advice, make sure you save all the emails from the recruiter or anything relevant to the case. If you still have friends who work there contact them for a reference or to obtain information re your situation when you were there.
If they capitulate, insist on a contract but with a two week notice only on your side initially, with your rationale being they are likely to make you feel unwelcome. Unless they have relevant grounds for putting you on the list, you should win. You are likely to find relevant information going forward regardless of the outcome and you will be putting them on notice of bad practices. It's very unlikely that there's anything bad because you would have had a completely different response from your recruiter and the hospital.
If you take the job you should be okay because a precedent has been set re their HR mismanagement. It's really a win, win situation for you if you hadn't done anything bad. Blacklisting is actually frowned upon especially re state laws.
You also need to try several lawyers to Guage prices and feel of the person.
Good luck.
No disrespect to you or your father. I just don't see the point of pursuing legal action against the company. If it's a large hospital system, their legal team is likely going to be able to bury any lawyer the OP would be able to afford. In many states the law favors employers and they are the ones with all the rights, not the employee.
No disrespect to you or your father. I just don't see the point of pursuing legal action against the company. If it's a large hospital system, their legal team is likely going to be able to bury any lawyer the OP would be able to afford. In many states the law favors employers and they are the ones with all the rights, not the employee.
My point exactly based on what I've heard in the past. However he said people are at a heightened state currently and nurses are Angels at the moment. They wouldn't risk any bad PR or the potential for discovery. Eg no investigation yet a blacklisting occurs? He said a good lawyer should be able to use it to his advantage also based on what I told him(I never mention names, confidentiality) they would have discouraged her a lot more strongly. She needs the evidence to convince her lawyer who has to convince a court if it comes to that, that something fishy went on. He said they would never risk a case going to court being decided by a jury especially against a nurse in this climate.
The least she can get out of it would be a good reference from them for other jobs. They actually also cannot give potential employers anything but dates hired etc. I wouldn't take it lying down but that's just me. I like tussles.
They actually also cannot give potential employers anything but dates hired etc. I wouldn't take it lying down but that's just me. I like tussles.
This is a commonly held incorrect belief. While immunity laws for employers differ from state to state, often a former employer responding to a reference check in good faith, I.e. they are responding truthfully, is protected from libel and defamation claims. Company policies may limit what HR discloses, but not all companies are alike.
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It seems to me that I merely requested the specifics of some lab and/or test results on a couple of compromised patients. When he attempted to shine me on, I was confrontive with him.