Getting off the "do not hire" list?

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I'm new here, so hello! ?

I have been trolling for a few days, but had something come up today, so figured I would go ahead and ask.

I have been looking to change jobs, and have been working with a recruiter. I interviewed for a job via the phone the other day, and was told by the recruiter to expect a job offer. The employer is actually through a hospital system that I worked for almost 10 years ago. I didn't even think twice about it, until today when she told me that I was listed as ineligible for rehire. Now, thinking back, I did have some trouble with some allegations people had made against me, and I ended up resigning. So they must have put me on a do not rehire list. The thing is, all they were were allegations. Nothing was ever proven, because, there was nothing to prove. It was all just gossip, and finger pointing. I called the HR dept today to find out what my personnel record states, but I was not able to get any answers. A person in HR said that its sometimes possible to get the status of your eligibility changed, but the HR managers have to review your personnel record first. So as of right now, my job offer is at a stand still because I don't know if this ever happens or not. Has anyone ever had this happen? Where they were on a "do not hire" list, but were able to get it converted back? And if so, how did they do it? I had no idea that I was even on it! And how embarrassing to find out by my recruiter telling me! 

Specializes in school nurse.
On 1/26/2021 at 1:25 PM, Davey Do said:

I even made a big brute of a male nurse cry and he telephoned the director thereafter at around MN on weekend. She, in turn, called me, asked me to recall the situation, and asked me what I thought the problem was.

I said, "He's a real reactionary".

Dang! Even if I were physically capable of making tears (the jury is out on that) the last thing I'd want to do after that is to "run to mommy".

Is he still in therapy?

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Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
9 minutes ago, Jedrnurse said:

Is he still in therapy?

Funny that you should ask that, Jed...

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Uh-oh. We got caught!

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Specializes in retired LTC.

OP - I can't answer your question directly, but I would say, why not give it a try and contact HR, esp if you had had a good reputation up until your resignation with good evals and references. Also if your record is good since then, why not make the endeavor to clear the record.

Consider also that the complaints were never validated, so you might have some success.

I think it's worth the effort. 'Nothing ventured, nothing gained'.

JMHO & good luck to you.

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Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
On 1/26/2021 at 5:09 PM, amoLucia said:

Consider also that the complaints were never validated, so you might have some success.

Interesting point, amoLucia.

Considering along those lines: Since I was fired from Wrongway, and both governmental & legal entities have deemed the termination to be unjust, I wonder if I should attempt to seek employment there.

Yeah. Yeah, I just might do that!

Right after I jab a sharp stick in my eye and give myself a frontal lobotomy!

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Specializes in Dialysis.
On 1/26/2021 at 5:24 PM, Davey Do said:

Interesting point, amoLucia.

Considering along those lines: Since I was fired from Wrongway, and both governmental & legal entities have deemed the termination to be unjust, I wonder if I should attempt to seek employment there.

Yeah. Yeah, I just might do that!

Right after I jab a sharp stick in my eye and give myself a frontal lobotomy!

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Please don't make a claymation of that. I'm not sure that I could take it...

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Specializes in Case management, Home Health, Nursing Supervisor.
5 hours ago, amoLucia said:

OP - I can't answer your question directly, but I would say, why not give it a try and contact HR, esp if you had had a good reputation up until your resignation with good evals and references. Also if your record is good since then, why not make the endeavor to clear the record.

Consider also that the complaints were never validated, so you might have some success.

I think it's worth the effort. 'Nothing ventured, nothing gained'.

JMHO & good luck to you.

Well I did request a call back from the HR dept & requested that this be overturned. They called me back this afternoon and simply stated that they couldn’t overturn it. She didn’t offer me any other information and when I tried to get some information, I was shot down.
Don’t I have a right to know what is written in my employee file? it’s a little aggravating that whatever is written in there seems to be some big secret.

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10 minutes ago, cmf2021 said:


Don’t I have a right to know what is written in my employee file?

Nope. They didn't even have to tell you that the file existed. At least you know not to waste your time with them in the future.

 

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Specializes in Case management, Home Health, Nursing Supervisor.
On 1/26/2021 at 11:20 PM, Sour Lemon said:

Nope. They didn't even have to tell you that the file existed. At least you know not to waste your time with them in the future.

Interesting...

now let me ask you all another question.

Had I not been so honest, would I have perhaps gotten the job? 
let me explain- when I worked there before I wasn’t married, so I had a different name. on the application it gave me the opportunity to exclude them from the application altogether. I didn’t know they would be a problem so I didn’t think otherwise, but if I had, and left them off of my employment history and didn’t put my previous name down on the application, would they have even have known I had worked there? I’m not saying it’s the right thing to do, I’m just wondering if they would have allowed it through. Does it get triggered by the SS#?

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Specializes in Mental health, substance abuse, geriatrics, PCU.
34 minutes ago, cmf2021 said:

Interesting...

now let me ask you all another question.

Had I not been so honest, would I have perhaps gotten the job? 
let me explain- when I worked there before I wasn’t married, so I had a different name. on the application it gave me the opportunity to exclude them from the application altogether. I didn’t know they would be a problem so I didn’t think otherwise, but if I had, and left them off of my employment history and didn’t put my previous name down on the application, would they have even have known I had worked there? I’m not saying it’s the right thing to do, I’m just wondering if they would have allowed it through. Does it get triggered by the SS#?

You made the right decision to be honest. More than likely they would have figured you out despite the name change and no one likes to be on the receiving of deception. Even if you'd been successful for the duration of you're employment you would have to always have the worry that it would catch up with you. 

While I'm not enough of an idealist to say honesty is the best policy, I will say that being professional is the best policy when dealing with HR. 

If it makes you feel any better, I don't think you could have done anything else to change the outcome in this situation. Sorry things didn't work out, I hope you find something else soon!

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Specializes in Case management, Home Health, Nursing Supervisor.
1 hour ago, TheMoonisMyLantern said:

You made the right decision to be honest. More than likely they would have figured you out despite the name change and no one likes to be on the receiving of deception. Even if you'd been successful for the duration of you're employment you would have to always have the worry that it would catch up with you. 

While I'm not enough of an idealist to say honesty is the best policy, I will say that being professional is the best policy when dealing with HR. 

If it makes you feel any better, I don't think you could have done anything else to change the outcome in this situation. Sorry things didn't work out, I hope you find something else soon!

Thanks- on a happier note, I got a different job offer today. So, it all ended up working out. 

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Specializes in Dialysis.
9 hours ago, cmf2021 said:

Well I did request a call back from the HR dept & requested that this be overturned. They called me back this afternoon and simply stated that they couldn’t overturn it. She didn’t offer me any other information and when I tried to get some information, I was shot down.
Don’t I have a right to know what is written in my employee file? it’s a little aggravating that whatever is written in there seems to be some big secret.

I used to think that it was the employees property, until I sued a former employer (and won).  Your employee file is property of the employer, which means they can share, or decline to share, as much of it as they wish, unless part is subpoenaed. And the subpoena has to be specific, like allegations, comments by John Doe and Sue Smith, a lawyer cannot just subpoena all allegations, as the suit will be specific. It sucks because how many people know specifically what is said and by whom. My own lawyer, as well as  2 others that I consulted to clarify, did validate and stated that this was nationally, not just 1 state/locality. I was in TN at the time many years ago, so things might have changed, but I doubt it. Companies (especially large medical establishments) lobby and pay big bucks to not have their boat rocked 

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Specializes in Dialysis.
6 hours ago, cmf2021 said:

Interesting...

now let me ask you all another question.

Had I not been so honest, would I have perhaps gotten the job? 
let me explain- when I worked there before I wasn’t married, so I had a different name. on the application it gave me the opportunity to exclude them from the application altogether. I didn’t know they would be a problem so I didn’t think otherwise, but if I had, and left them off of my employment history and didn’t put my previous name down on the application, would they have even have known I had worked there? I’m not saying it’s the right thing to do, I’m just wondering if they would have allowed it through. Does it get triggered by the SS#?

Yes, the SSN would have picked up, nursing license number as well if applicable. If omitted, they would have gotten you for that. 

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