Company removed all chairs

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  1. Are they allowed to do this

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      It’s illegal
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      Find a new job

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The company I work for is messed up. It is a SNF They switched pharmacy to save money now we never have medications we need and even run out of Coumadin in the emergency safe. We are always short staffed and I have 26 beds and 3 CNA and they have residents in different sections as well. The facility had 22 falls in 25 days! Not on my station but there are high psych patients and they are cutting down psych meds. A lot of resident violence towards staff now company removed all chairs and are installing computers that are attached to carts permanently. They blame the nurses for everything that happens even when state was coming the head came in yelling at nurses and gave us a book and sa D we wouldn't pass another med until we get 100 percent on her test but no med errors occurred only CNA mistakes. Is this okay can they treat nurses like this? We never even take 10 min breaks. I do now since I can't rest my feet while I chart but other nurses look down on it.

I LOVE this.....

Sounds like a place I worked at a few years back. Scared the living crap out of me. I lasted almost a year before I gave notice, quit, and when asked a reason, um, where did they want me to start?

This same place was on the front page of a local paper for med errors and neglect about a year later. Complaints dated back to about a month after I left. I was relieved that I wasn't working there during the timeframe. Great five star senior living!

There are tons of lousy employers. This is just another one to not think twice about leaving. Any legal issues they will gladly throw on you if they can.

The company I work for is messed up. It is a SNF They switched pharmacy to save money now we never have medications we need and even run out of Coumadin in the emergency safe. We are always short staffed and I have 26 beds and 3 CNA and they have residents in different sections as well. The facility had 22 falls in 25 days! Not on my station but there are high psych patients and they are cutting down psych meds. A lot of resident violence towards staff now company removed all chairs and are installing computers that are attached to carts permanently. They blame the nurses for everything that happens even when state was coming the head came in yelling at nurses and gave us a book and sa D we wouldn't pass another med until we get 100 percent on her test but no med errors occurred only CNA mistakes. Is this okay can they treat nurses like this? We never even take 10 min breaks. I do now since I can't rest my feet while I chart but other nurses look down on it.

You need to talk to a lawyer about this.

Specializes in Pediatric Critical Care.
In addition to this get into their own offices and take their chairs. Remove chairs from the patients rooms and visitors lobby. Yeah it may be Petty but....

It's not a solution, but it does sound pretty funny to do...

Specializes in 15 years in ICU, 22 years in PACU.
You need to talk to a lawyer about this.

Mitch McDeere: It's not sexy, but it's got teeth! Ten thousand dollars and five years in prison. That's ten and five for each act. Have you really looked at that? You've got every partner in the firm on overbilling. There's two hundred fifty acts of documented mail fraud there. That's racketeering! That's minimum one thousand, two hundred fifty years in prison and half a million dollars in fines. That's more than you had on Capone.

OK, Tom Cruise plays a movie lawyer but the point is: get them for labor fraud. It's tacky to take your chairs but probably not illegal. Repeated documentation that they are not paying you for time worked has got teeth.

*Opinion expressed here is not to be construed as legal advice nor do I play a lawyer on TV.

I'm a CNA and am well aware of 'scope of practice'. If I were you and if the CNAs and all who you work with are an AWESOME team who do their jobs, I would encourage everyone that you like or don't know and don't have a problem with at the same time to find a new job so you can all quit at the same time and leave the place empty leaving those who come in with an entitled attitude shocked that their crooked management practices are ****** up. These entitled businesses and their provocatively charged entitlement because of a certain powerful businessman who leaves no federal anything stone unturned need to be shown a reality check real soon.

Please don't be a whipping post and think it's you. I don't think it is. They're probably on this website right now looking for posts on complaints and how nurses behave so they can use it against their own staff out of personal amusement.

Mitch McDeere: It's not sexy, but it's got teeth! Ten thousand dollars and five years in prison. That's ten and five for each act. Have you really looked at that? You've got every partner in the firm on overbilling. There's two hundred fifty acts of documented mail fraud there. That's racketeering! That's minimum one thousand, two hundred fifty years in prison and half a million dollars in fines. That's more than you had on Capone.

OK, Tom Cruise plays a movie lawyer but the point is: get them for labor fraud. It's tacky to take your chairs but probably not illegal. Repeated documentation that they are not paying you for time worked has got teeth.

*Opinion expressed here is not to be construed as legal advice nor do I play a lawyer on TV.

Actually taking chairs away may very much be illegal, assuming they've also removed them from the breakroom. Some states REQUIRE employers to make reasonable accomodations for lunch hours and breaks, this usually includes a place AWAY from the work area where a table and chair are provided at a minimum. Ambersmom is correct, only an employment lawyer could answer the question of whether removing the chairs is legal.

"The facility had 22 falls in 25 days!" It's only a matter of time until the state shuts them down. Not safe for your license or the residents. You have a duty to to report. You can do it anonymously.

Find a new job and then go after them.

Specializes in Addictions, psych, corrections, transfers.
I'm a CNA and am well aware of 'scope of practice'. If I were you and if the CNAs and all who you work with are an AWESOME team who do their jobs, I would encourage everyone that you like or don't know and don't have a problem with at the same time to find a new job so you can all quit at the same time and leave the place empty leaving those who come in with an entitled attitude shocked that their crooked management practices are ****** up. These entitled businesses and their provocatively charged entitlement because of a certain powerful businessman who leaves no federal anything stone unturned need to be shown a reality check real soon.

Please don't be a whipping post and think it's you. I don't think it is. They're probably on this website right now looking for posts on complaints and how nurses behave so they can use it against their own staff out of personal amusement.

Haha! Yes, I actually had the wonderful opportunity to do this at the jail I worked. They were paying the fines for short staffing instead of paying for more staff. 1 or 2 RNs for 700 inmate and 50 new pts a day to do full assessments. We obviously couldn't keep up. Management was threatening us every day because we couldn't meet our quotas. Finally, all the staff including the providers put in their 2 wks notice all at once. They were begging us not to quit. They lost their contract 1 month later, then the new company tried to get all of us back, but our experiences had already ruined any thoughts of working there again. It was sweet justice. What sucks is that we liked working with the patients and the job would have been great if we could have had just one more staff member and obviously better management.

Specializes in School Nursing, Pediatrics.

At a hospital I worked at once, they put the computers on wheels as well, and they were called "COWS", well we were told we couldn't call them that anymore because it was "offensive"....to who we were not sure as they don't have feelings. So we had to start calling them WOWS (work station on wheels).

Those went away a few months later, and they gave us back the regular computers at a desk with chairs.

Just a funny story I thought I would share. But like others have said, I would be looking for a new job!

At a hospital I worked at once, they put the computers on wheels as well, and they were called "COWS", well we were told we couldn't call them that anymore because it was "offensive"....to who we were not sure as they don't have feelings. So we had to start calling them WOWS (work station on wheels).

Those went away a few months later, and they gave us back the regular computers at a desk with chairs.

Just a funny story I thought I would share. But like others have said, I would be looking for a new job!

That story has been going around for years all over the country. It usually involves a patient getting offended because she believed that the staff were referring to her as a "cow".

It's half urban legend, although there may have been some grain or truth to it somewhere at some time.

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