Do you guys see a lot of people saying they are nursing students....

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or go to nursing school and than find out they are still in the Pre Req phase? I swear I have seen a good number of people do this, and than when I say, "Oh what semester are you in, I am in this semester" they are like, Oh well I am not actually in yet but I start pre reqs soon, or I just started pre reqs. I wonder why that is. Before I started the actual program I would say if asked that I was doing Pre Reqs to get into the nursing program. Or I am on the waitlist for the nursing program.

or go to nursing school and than find out they are still in the Pre Req phase? I swear I have seen a good number of people do this, and than when I say, "Oh what semester are you in, I am in this semester" they are like, Oh well I am not actually in yet but I start pre reqs soon, or I just started pre reqs. I wonder why that is. Before I started the actual program I would say if asked that I was doing Pre Reqs to get into the nursing program. Or I am on the waitlist for the nursing program.

My daughter's best friend is a "BSN student" and is all over facebook (and allnurses) asking advice on scrubs, scopes and other nursing gear.

She just finished her FIRST quarter at community college. That doesn't have a nursing program.

I'm more embarrassed for her than anything. No, she's not an "exicted" kid. Yes she knows better.

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I can't believe how much bickering and elitist comments there are on this topic. Fo shame :nono:

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I think we are all basically talking about 2 different scenarios.

A person like the above poster mentioned. Someone calling herself a BSN student, or an ADN student and asking for advice on nursing gear and supplies when they don't even attend a school with a nursing program yet, or they just decided to go to school for nursing one day, so automatically they call themselves a "nursing student". These thing are clearly incorrect and neither one of these people would be considered a nursing student by any stretch.

Or, a person who is taking pre-reqs directly geared toward nursing majors (AP1, AP2, professions of caring, ect), have declared nursing as their major, the school has nursing as their major (says it on my student homepage), and they just say theyre a nursing student to avoid the "Im taking classes to get into the nursing program at XYZ, yadda yadda yadda". Most people dont understand what kind of a process nursing school can be and to me, its just easier to me to just say im going to school for nursing, then to have to explain all that. I dont see where saying "nursing student" in this situation is that bigga deal

I appreciate what the "real" nursing students have to go through earn the title, but it dont think the title should be exclusive to them.

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I appreciate what the "real" nursing students have to go through earn the title, but it dont think the title should be exclusive to them.

Rearranging words: You don't think the title should be exclusive to those that have earned it. :confused:

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I, too, am amazed that 12 pages of intense discussion has gone into this subject. There have been some suggestions to constructively deal with the problem of non-nursing students buying supplies, although knowing the bookstores, they're making a killing on this so I doubt they mind putting together a few more kits.

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I can't believe how much bickering and elitist comments there are on this topic. Fo shame :nono:

Way to poison the well.

What comments are "elitist"?

Was it when we said that people shouldn't call themselves what they are not?

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I appreciate what the "real" nursing students have to go through earn the title, but it dont think the title should be exclusive to them.

It's pretty cut and dried: if you've been accepted into a nursing program, you are a nursing student. If you haven't, you aren't, regardless of what your intentions are.

Despite hysterical charges of "elitism", no one is saying that people who call themselves "nursing students" before they've been accepted should be disciplined or shunned or anything. The most that has been suggested is that they should be corrected in a friendly way with the distinction properly explained to them. It has also been said by some of us that we find this annoying. This is hardly elitism.

Calling this "elitism" and implying that those who agree with it are fascists is ad hominem of the worst kind and it is far worse than taking issue with people who, perhaps with the greatest hope and best intentions, appropriate categories to themselves that they have not yet earned.

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It's pretty cut and dried: if you've been accepted into a nursing program, you are a nursing student. If you haven't, you aren't, regardless of what your intentions are.

Despite hysterical charges of "elitism", no one is saying that people who call themselves "nursing students" before they've been accepted should be disciplined or shunned or anything. The most that has been suggested is that they should be corrected in a friendly way with the distinction properly explained to them. It has also been said by some of us that we find this annoying. This is hardly elitism.

Calling this "elitism" and implying that those who agree with it are fascists is ad hominem of the worst kind and it is far worse than taking issue with people who, perhaps with the greatest hope and best intentions, appropriate categories to themselves that they have not yet earned.

Well, I didnt call it elitism. Not even entirely sure what that means.

Thats your opinion. Obviously there is nothing cut and dry about it, otherwise there wouldn't be an entire thread with peoples varying views on the subject.

Whatev. Im over it

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or go to nursing school and than find out they are still in the Pre Req phase? I swear I have seen a good number of people do this, and than when I say, "Oh what semester are you in, I am in this semester" they are like, Oh well I am not actually in yet but I start pre reqs soon, or I just started pre reqs. I wonder why that is. Before I started the actual program I would say if asked that I was doing Pre Reqs to get into the nursing program. Or I am on the waitlist for the nursing program.

Nope, this is honestly the first time I've ever heard of this phenomenon!

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It was on my syllabus for AP1 that I needed to purchase a lab kit. I was sent to the nursing section of the bookstore where I picked up said lab kit (which is dissecting tools among a couple others). On the first day of class my instructor informed us we didn't need the kits until next semester in AP2. Well now I have the kit and don't have to deal with picking one up in the spring.. I sure hope I didn't take one out of the entitled hands of an AP2 student. :coollook::uhoh3:

It has nothing to do with being entitled. Clearly you don't get it.

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It has nothing to do with being entitled. Clearly you don't get it.

LOL- I get it just fine..

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I have a family member and her daughter is going into dental hygiene school. She is fresh out of HS and did no college courses through HS. So anyway, her mom is telling me about her program and how in 2 years she will have her dental degree and nursing degree :confused:. I was like, oh really, how does that work? She couldn't explain it but she was dead set on the fact that her daughter will have her RN degree and Dental degree after 2 years in this program. Well I later find out that it's some medical assisting course with dental assisting or something like that. Her mom is like MA/RN same difference. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Parents and grandparents get confused, my grandmother thought I worked in HIV/AIDS for years, even though I explained to her that I was doing something completely different 8000 times. I don't think the general population sees the differences in different health care fields, they think in terms of someone being a doctor or a nurse, anything outside that is like "huh?" My friend primarily saw a midwife for her prenatal care, but she was in a doctor's office, she for some reason thought that meant that she had gone and gotten an MD in addition to her CNM. This friend is pretty smart too, she just doesn't understand the variations in the medical field.

People just don't pay attention. I had a senior resident ask me if I was shadowing to work on the floor, nevermind my nursing school uniform and two nametags saying I was a student. Oh well.

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