Do you guys see a lot of people saying they are nursing students....

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or go to nursing school and than find out they are still in the Pre Req phase? I swear I have seen a good number of people do this, and than when I say, "Oh what semester are you in, I am in this semester" they are like, Oh well I am not actually in yet but I start pre reqs soon, or I just started pre reqs. I wonder why that is. Before I started the actual program I would say if asked that I was doing Pre Reqs to get into the nursing program. Or I am on the waitlist for the nursing program.

I apologize if i have offended anyone here, I did not mean to at all. In my *opinion* I feel that most ASNs are harder to get into than BSN. I say this because a large number of BSN programs (especially in my area) will easily accept student's right out of high school with no prereqs, etc while the ASN programs around here are highly competitive and require numerous prereqs and even the prereqs sometimes are not enough. That being said.. I do realize there are BSN programs that are hard to get into and do not dispute that these students have worked just as hard for their nursing student status. I also understand that some of these programs require students to meet certain criteria prior to beginning their clinical phases and require a separate admissions process for junior/senior level nursing. overall all my only point is that nursing students that have been accepted into any program have worked hard and should have their hard work appreciated by other people in that they do not misrepresent themselves. I never called myself a nursing student before I was. When asked, I would simply say, "I am taking the prereqs for the nursing program and hope to get in this fall." or some variation.

Again, I apologize if I offended you! Best of luck! :):yeah:

I understood what you were saying. The ASN/ADN programs in community colleges have long waiting lists and lots of prereqs. I think it would have been harder for me to get into the local community college than the BSN program in a way. I would have had to take way more tests, random classes and be an NA because I could even apply.

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See, to me that's just college. I honestly thought my prereqs were harder than my nursing school classes. I wrote more papers in undergrad Part 1 and did more group projects as well (I'm a second degree student). People make a huge deal about how nursing school is sooooooo different, but really I don't think it is. I think it's different from people's previous experience, but not from college in general. Maybe it seems different for many people it's their first college experience outside of their prereqs or for the BSN students, it's junior and senior level classes. People in other majors and programs work hard, have nervous breakdowns, have professors who expect a lot of them and so on. I saw all the things you described above happen to people in other majors or other programs.

I don't think it's necessarily harder than any other degree. I had a harder time in some of my pre reqs than I do the actual program. I just think it's a lot different. How things are done, the way exams are done, you have the clinicals, all the stuff that goes into that, we even have a much stricter grading scale at my school at least, than any other program or degree at the school. The process is usually a lot different than other degrees. In my program you can only mess up once and even than you have no guarantee you can come back into the program. To where in some other degrees I know about, you can retake a class. So I don't think it's so much harder as it is just sort of it's own unique experience all together.

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Oh, so you've now changed your perspective to: she doesn't get it because she's not in YOUR nursing program (as opposed to your last post in which you stated that she would "get it" if she was in her nursing program).

Even though you've explained that your program requires the kits....was there something else you didn't tell us that would make this situation as unique as you seem to think it is?

I maintain, that she both "gets it" and disagrees with you...as do I.

I'll also repeat that this is not the student's fault. If there are only the minimum required kits available, students should have to show clinical ID to buy them. While the student in question had ample ability to know the kits were for a specific class, they would have no way to know they only made enough for the students registered in that class.

But whatever, if getting annoyed at innocent folks floats your boat....there's nothing to be done about that.

Not so much changed my perspective as just taking into consideration that every nursing program might do something different and the stuff with the lab kits might not happen with other programs. I can only speak to how it is at my program, that is why I further clarified ;)

I am not even going to bother responding to ridiculousness of your other comment and passive-aggressive insults. I have no doubt you will be back nipping at the heels of any other post I make soon enough. It seems to be a pattern! :rolleyes:

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Not so much changed my perspective as just taking into consideration that every nursing program might do something different and the stuff with the lab kits might not happen with other programs. I can only speak to how it is at my program, that is why I further clarified ;)

I am not even going to bother responding to ridiculousness of your other comments and passive-aggressive insults. I have no doubt you will be back nipping at the heels of any other post I make soon enough. It seems to be a pattern! :rolleyes:

Delusions of grandeur at it's most evident.

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I enjoy the posts from both of you (although I don't always agree with either), but right now, all I see is this:

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Honestly this is just getting goofy.

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Specializes in Emergency Nursing.

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Wow, you just can't stop yourself, can you?

Stop myself? From posting on a discussion board? Why would I?

Evidently, I stop myself as well as you do.

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I enjoy the posts from both of you (although I don't always agree with either), but right now, all I see is this:

:argue:

You're right and I apologize. I need to learn to just ignore the jabs. I will work on it :)

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Again I don't understand why this is so controversial??? You eitehr are or you're not.. I don't trhink the original post was intended to put anyone down and I do agree. If you read through any of the posts it seems that she went through a lot to get to nursing school as many of us have or are trying to and it is a proud title. It's the same as how I cannot wait to call myself a nurse. I'm certainly not going to, even when I'm a senior, until I pass the nclex.

Another thing I keep reading on here is about BSN programs being so easy to get into. I'm sure things are different everywhere but where I live the cc usually have wait list so everyone gets accepted but the university's mostly are competitive entry and by far are not easy to get into. Many of the people I have met along the way have tried so many times at my school that either the advisor's are telling them to look into other major's or to keep re-taking courses over and over.

The point of all this is that you should be proud of yourself at every level. I feel that as being a recent pre nursing student myself the posts on here that are so angry are pretty insulting. I think that if you feel you have to call yourself a nursing student when you're not then it makes me feel that your actions are dictating that you feel there is soemthing wrong with being a pre nursing student to begin with. And the argument taht people are just so dumb that they couldn't understand what pre nursing is-gimme a break. There is pre- everything.. There are pre-law programs (I know Paco69 that you can major in anything, my sister is an attorney as well, this is also true for medical school) pre-med and my cousin is a pre-med student and very proud to be one and there shouldn't be a difference.

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Well my gosh, after I JUST said that I, and probably a lot of other people, say "nursing student" b/c most non-nursing people don't understand what kind of process RN school is and I dont feel like explaining it!

Yeah a student nurse has earned her title (or his), but if you are not using is AS a title and u are just trying to make it simple and save time and explanations for those who wont understand, than its not that big of a deal. As it has been explained in this thread, the term "nursing student" can be construed many different ways

Because saying, "I'm taking prereqs to get into the nursing program" is way too many words to say. ?? Regardless, your opinion is yours and mine is mine. I won't change my mind and you won't change yours. Neither is right and neither is wrong. I was shocked (or maybe not) to see how many more pages were added to this thread from last night into this morning..craziness!!

I just think that if I had told people I was a nursing student before I was..it would take away the pride I felt when I got accepted and actually became a nursing student. That's all!

End the end..no big deal, really. Now..let's kick up our feet and watch some football! It's SUNDAY folks..let's try to relax before Monday comes and kicks us all in the butt :):redbeathe

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Stop myself? From posting on a discussion board? Why would I?

Evidently, I stop myself as well as you do.

Yeah, I withdrew the comment.

The point was that with your charges of "elitism" and now "delusions of grandeur", your penchant for demonization is, apparently, incapable of containment. You can't seem to stop yourself.

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