Do you guys see a lot of people saying they are nursing students....

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or go to nursing school and than find out they are still in the Pre Req phase? I swear I have seen a good number of people do this, and than when I say, "Oh what semester are you in, I am in this semester" they are like, Oh well I am not actually in yet but I start pre reqs soon, or I just started pre reqs. I wonder why that is. Before I started the actual program I would say if asked that I was doing Pre Reqs to get into the nursing program. Or I am on the waitlist for the nursing program.

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---- CuriousMe, In line with the pre-law/law student thing.. If someone is pre-med do you think it would be okay to say they were in med school? hardly!

Premed and prelaw are generally declared undergraduate majors.. Law school and medical school are graduate programs. Nursing school is not the same.. sorry, I'm not trying diminish nursing schools or nurses but generally when people are taking nursing prereqs.. they are taking classes DIRECTLY related to nursing. If someone says "what are you in school for" and the answer is "nursing".. I don't think that is dishonest AT ALL.

I've taking all my general education classes and have already earned my general AA degree.. every class I'm taking right now is directly required for the BSN programs I'd like to get in to. I'm going to school right now FOR nursing... even though I'm not in an actual nursing program yet. It's my endgame and an undergrad.. I'm not (and nobody else as far as I know) are getting a degree in prenursing.

Getting into a nursing program is something to be proud of.. but geeze, self important much?

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Premed and prelaw are generally declared undergraduate majors.. Law school and medical school are graduate programs. Nursing school is not the same.. sorry, I'm not trying diminish nursing schools or nurses but generally when people are taking nursing prereqs.. they are taking classes DIRECTLY related to nursing. If someone says "what are you in school for" and the answer is "nursing".. I don't think that is dishonest AT ALL.

I've taking all my general education classes and have already earned my general AA degree.. every class I'm taking right now is directly required for the BSN programs I'd like to get in to. I'm going to school right now FOR nursing... even though I'm not in an actual nursing program yet. It's my endgame and an undergrad.. I'm not (and nobody else as far as I know) are getting a degree in prenursing.

Getting into a nursing program is something to be proud of.. but geeze, self important much?

Actually, premed and prelaw are generally NOT declared undergrad majors. Premed majors could be biology majors...or music majors...they just make sure to have all the prereqs to med school included (and yes, I took my year of Gen Chem with a music major who intended to apply to med school). The point though is that there are no degrees that say Bachelor of Science in PreMed :-)

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Actually, premed and prelaw are generally NOT declared undergrad majors. Premed majors could be biology majors...or music majors...they just make sure to have all the prereqs to med school included (and yes, I took my year of Gen Chem with a music major who intended to apply to med school). The point though is that there are no degrees that say Bachelor of Science in PreMed :-)

Thanks for setting me straight! ;)

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I'm not sure if someone else has pointed this out yet but some people may not update their profiles and may in fact now be nursing students.

I don't tell people I'm a nursing student.. but I think your annoyance is kind of petty (and elitist) ... and to dog on a girl for buying a lab kit because you want two seems a bit ridiculous especially because you're saying there aren't enough to go around (and you want TWO of them??) She's obviously excited about the prospect of nursing school.. give her a break.

I don't go off of peoples profiles unless I directly ask them first, in regards to this board. I am talking about people that flat out say they are in their pre reqs or considering nursing or "well I am not in nursing school yet BUT," Someone else mentioned looking at the profiles, that wasn't me.

As far as the lab kits, they are supposed to be for NURSING STUDENTS. The kits specifically have what class they are for on them. The schools book store only have X amount of them made each semester. I didn't say I PERSONALLY need to have two. I said that some people will get 2. The people I know that have gotten 2 did not get the second one until after labs had already started. After everyone should have bought their first one. Stuff happens to the kits sometimes, parts go missing, things break or get lost, thus the school making extras for the nursing students.

I will not give a student a break for them taking away the supplies needed for our class because she is eager to start nursing school. She just started her pre reqs. It will be at least 3 years before she gets into my schools program. If she wants to feel excited that she is going down this path, she can go online and order stuff from various sites. Not buy up the limited kits provided for the students IN the program.

I am pretty sure you have your own annoyances that will seem petty to others, so if mine seems petty to you, no skin off my back. I was simply asking fellow nursing students if this was something they ever see after I saw it again the other day.

ETA- I just saw that you stated you are not IN nursing classes yet. Maybe once you are in the nursing classes and have the labs and kits (if your school is similar to mine) you will understand the annoyance with the kit thing.

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I do have a flip side to this. We are fixing start clinicals and our instructors were telling us how we knock on the door and introduce ourselves....

A couple of them told us to say....HI I'm (insert name), I will be your nurse today.

I dont feel comfortable saying that. I am not a "Nurse" yet. Im only a student nurse.

I dont feel I should say Im a nurse. I should say I'll be your student nurse today.

I wouldn't feel comfortable introducing myself that way either. I would state I am a student nurse.

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nevermind, already answered

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I really feel that after someone works hard to get into a program (primarily ASN/ADN which I feel are much more competitive than BSN)

:confused: My BSN program was pretty darned completive!

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I don't go off of peoples profiles unless I directly ask them first, in regards to this board. I am talking about people that flat out say they are in their pre reqs or considering nursing or "well I am not in nursing school yet BUT," Someone else mentioned looking at the profiles, that wasn't me.

As far as the lab kits, they are supposed to be for NURSING STUDENTS. The kits specifically have what class they are for on them. The schools book store only have X amount of them made each semester. I didn't say I PERSONALLY need to have two. I said that some people will get 2. The people I know that have gotten 2 did not get the second one until after labs had already started. After everyone should have bought their first one. Stuff happens to the kits sometimes, parts go missing, things break or get lost, thus the school making extras for the nursing students.

I will not give a student a break for them taking away the supplies needed for our class because she is eager to start nursing school. She just started her pre reqs. It will be at least 3 years before she gets into my schools program. If she wants to feel excited that she is going down this path, she can go online and order stuff from various sites. Not buy up the limited kits provided for the students IN the program.

I have to agree. It would really irk me as well if I knew of someone who was not in the class that was essentially robbing supplies from those were were.

Vida-have you or your classmates gone to the department head and spoken of this issue with the kits? Perhaps this situation could be eliminated by assigning a "class fee" with the course that covers the cost of the kits and other necessary supplies. That is how my program did it. We bought our texts at the bookstore, but our kits were handed out in class because we paid for them ahead of time through the class fee that was tied into our tuition for the semester.

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That was the first time I have ever seen someone buying a kit not even in the program (to my knowledge) Only knew they weren't in the program because another student saw the kit, assumed student was in program and asked them what semester they were in. We do have class fee's and all that, not sure what they are covering. But it seems to me there would be some system in place to prevent this. I mean some of these kits contain syringes and needles and IV's and stuff. The different semesters have different kits but the way they are packaged it's easy to tell right off the bat if someone is carrying one what it's for.

I know we also had a problem with there being enough books, not sure what this was from, whether it was from eager students or what not but at least we can buy the texts from anywhere. The lab kits we can't. I think that is why that in particular irked me.

It's worth looking into though, one of my best friends is our class president so I can talk to her and have her look into it. Thanks for the idea.

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Actually, premed and prelaw are generally NOT declared undergrad majors. Premed majors could be biology majors...or music majors...they just make sure to have all the prereqs to med school included (and yes, I took my year of Gen Chem with a music major who intended to apply to med school). The point though is that there are no degrees that say Bachelor of Science in PreMed :-)

What you said here makes pre-nursing students calling themselves nursing students make even more sense. If you are a pre-med student, you are usually a Biology or Chem major or something, you have a goal for a degree. If you are a pre-nursing student what it your goal? It's not like pre-nursing students major in Biology then graduate and go to nursing school as a graduate program like Med and Law students do. It might not be correct to call yourself a pre-nursing student, and if you are talking to other nursing students there is less of a need, but there are a lot of people that don't understand the ins and outs of getting into nursing school. I for one will tell some people that ask that I am in school for Nursing, or studying nursing, which they usually take to mean that I am a Nursing major. Unless they ask further, usually if they are a nurse or a nursing student, I don't clarify. My reasoning for this is not that I think I am a Nursing student, it's that I don't feel like explaining to people that don't understand that my being only in pre-nursing classes isn't a bad thing, or why I haven't been accepted into a program, which can be anything from just starting your pre-req's to not being accepted to eons.

As for students that are excited and purchase books and supplies, I buy books for other classes all the time, though usually only if there are a lot of them after the semester starts. I love to read and some classes have really cool books, though nursing books are usually to expensive to buy if you don't need them. As for the kit, that's kind of odd since there might be some stuff in there she shouldn't really have for no reason, but otherwise, if there seem to be plenty and it's after the semester has started, who cares. If you need more the school will make more, if you or you friends want a second one, ask them to make one up for you or like you said, buy one online. If she wasn't to give the school extra money for something she can't fully use don't complain, that's probably why they sold it to her. While this isn't true with kits I'm sure, a lot of students but books online and the school has a lot of extras they have to send back, and I'm sure with kits even in nursing a lot of students just don't buy them, otherwise there wouldn't be any left since classes have started. I will admit though, I think it is kind of odd to buy those things from the bookstore when you don't need some of the things in them.

Sorry this was so long, basically I just wanted to say a lot of times it's a self esteem thing so take an easy on the students that don't feel like explaining one more time why they haven't made it into a nursing program yet, and just be proud your on your way to being a nurse.

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What you said here makes pre-nursing students calling themselves nursing students make even more sense. If you are a pre-med student, you are usually a Biology or Chem major or something, you have a goal for a degree. If you are a pre-nursing student what it your goal? It's not like pre-nursing students major in Biology then graduate and go to nursing school as a graduate program like Med and Law students do. It might not be correct to call yourself a pre-nursing student, and if you are talking to other nursing students there is less of a need, but there are a lot of people that don't understand the ins and outs of getting into nursing school. I for one will tell some people that ask that I am in school for Nursing, or studying nursing, which they usually take to mean that I am a Nursing major. Unless they ask further, usually if they are a nurse or a nursing student, I don't clarify. My reasoning for this is not that I think I am a Nursing student, it's that I don't feel like explaining to people that don't understand that my being only in pre-nursing classes isn't a bad thing, or why I haven't been accepted into a program, which can be anything from just starting your pre-req's to not being accepted to eons.

As for students that are excited and purchase books and supplies, I buy books for other classes all the time, though usually only if there are a lot of them after the semester starts. I love to read and some classes have really cool books, though nursing books are usually to expensive to buy if you don't need them. As for the kit, that's kind of odd since there might be some stuff in there she shouldn't really have for no reason, but otherwise, if there seem to be plenty and it's after the semester has started, who cares. If you need more the school will make more, if you or you friends want a second one, ask them to make one up for you or like you said, buy one online. If she wasn't to give the school extra money for something she can't fully use don't complain, that's probably why they sold it to her. While this isn't true with kits I'm sure, a lot of students but books online and the school has a lot of extras they have to send back, and I'm sure with kits even in nursing a lot of students just don't buy them, otherwise there wouldn't be any left since classes have started. I will admit though, I think it is kind of odd to buy those things from the bookstore when you don't need some of the things in them.

Sorry this was so long, basically I just wanted to say a lot of times it's a self esteem thing so take an easy on the students that don't feel like explaining one more time why they haven't made it into a nursing program yet, and just be proud your on your way to being a nurse.

That's not how it works in our program. They don't just make us more. Also not all our classes start at the beginning of the semester. We can't buy the kits online, we can only buy our lab kits in the book store. Once they are sold out that's it. Right now I am at the front of the third semester. Our lab kits for our Med/Surge class are in the store already, but the class doesn't start until October. A lot of students wait until the class starts to buy the kit. There aren't a lot of students in our program that don't buy the kits, they HAVE to buy the kits. It's required and the kits contain the specific things and brands and what not of the skills we will be learning. They sell other nursing stuff in our store, stethoscopes, BP kits, and stuff like that. That isn't the stuff I am talking about though. I am talking about the kits that are specifically put together for our class that has all the required stuff we will need for our skills lab. We don't know what is in the kit until we buy it and open it. it's sealed really well and they are non-returnable.

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It was on my syllabus for AP1 that I needed to purchase a lab kit. I was sent to the nursing section of the bookstore where I picked up said lab kit (which is dissecting tools among a couple others). On the first day of class my instructor informed us we didn't need the kits until next semester in AP2. Well now I have the kit and don't have to deal with picking one up in the spring.. I sure hope I didn't take one out of the entitled hands of an AP2 student. :coollook::uhoh3:

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