What can I do locally if I am against the mandatory flu vaccine?

BlueDevil,DNP, DNP, RN · Feb 17, 2013

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[TD=width: 40%]Ingredient[/TD]

[TD=colspan: 4]Quantity (perdose)[/TD]

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[TD=width: 15%]Fluzone 0.25 mL Dose[/TD]

[TD=width: 15%]Fluzone 0.5 mL Dose[/TD]

[TD=width: 15%]Fluzone High-Dose 0.5 mL Dose[/TD]

[TD=width: 15%]Fluzone Intradermal 0.1 mL Dose[/TD]

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[TD]Active Substance: Split influenza virus, inactivated strains^a:[/TD]

[TD=align: center]22.5 mcg HA total[/TD]

[TD=align: center]45 mcg HA total[/TD]

[TD=align: center]180 mcg HA total[/TD]

[TD=align: center]27 mcg HA total[/TD]

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[TD]A (H1N1)[/TD]

[TD=align: center]7.5 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]15 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]60 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]9 mcg HA[/TD]

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[TD]A (H3N2)[/TD]

[TD=align: center]7.5 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]15 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]60 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]9 mcg HA[/TD]

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[TD]B[/TD]

[TD=align: center]7.5 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]15 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]60 mcg HA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]9 mcg HA[/TD]

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[TD=colspan: 5]Other:[/TD]

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[TD]Sodium phosphate-buffered isotonic sodium chloride solution[/TD]

[TD=align: center]QS^b to appropriate volume[/TD]

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[TD]Formaldehyde[/TD]

[TD=align: center]≤ 50 mcg[/TD]

[TD=align: center]≤ 100 mcg[/TD]

[TD=align: center]≤ 20 mcg[/TD]

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[TD]Octylphenol Ethoxylate[/TD]

[TD=align: center]≤ 75 mcg[/TD]

[TD=align: center]≤ 150 mcg[/TD]

[TD=align: center]≤ 250 mcg[/TD]

[TD=align: center]≤ 50 mcg[/TD]

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[TD]Gelatin[/TD]

[TD=align: center]0.05%[/TD]

[TD=align: center]None[/TD]

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[TD=colspan: 5]Preservative[/TD]

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[TD]Single-Dose Presentations[/TD]

[TD=align: center]None[/TD]

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[TD]Multi-Dose Presentation (Thimerosal)[/TD]

[TD=align: center]N/A[/TD]

[TD=align: center]25 mcg mercury[/TD]

[TD=align: center]N/A[/TD]

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[TD=colspan: 5]^a per United States Public Health Service (USPHS) requirement.

^b Quantity Sufficient.

N/A not applicable[/TD]

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JZ_RN · Feb 17, 2013

Obama doesn't have anything to do with mandatory flu vaccines. What kind of propaganda garbage are you listening to?

KelRN215, BSN, RN · Feb 17, 2013

I'm really interested to know where this idea of "Obama is forcing me to take the flu shot" came from.... the federal government does not mandate vaccines. Vaccines are not mandatory at all... there are just certain things (like public school or living in a college dorm or working in a hospital) that you are may be excluded from from if you choose not to abide by the vaccine requirements for those things.

CapeCodMermaid, RN · Feb 17, 2013

Honestly haven't we seen enough threads on the evils of the flu vaccine. May you're not old enough to remember when kids got polio before that vaccine was available. We weren't forced to take that vaccine, but our mothers practically ran to the pediatrician's office. Vaccines save lives. Your refusal to be vaccinated could endanger mine.

psu_213, BSN, RN · Feb 17, 2013

Does anybody know exactly what the flu vaccine contains?

I find it interesting that people take medications every day yet never ask 'what are the inert ingredients and preservatives in this med? What are some severe side effects of the drug?' Yet, they 'blindly' continue to take the med everyday.

Never once have a had a patient question the additives in their dose of dilaudid. It is very very rare that someone says 'hey, my life is going to be better if I don't have to take percocet everyday.' Yet some of these individuals think we are trying to poison them with the flu shot.

Skepticism can be good, but it should apply to all meds.

LadyFree28, BSN, LPN, RN · Feb 17, 2013

Personal choice is personal choice and unlikely to be changed or swayed. Until, like me, one gets the flu. And numerous complications from the flu. And feeling like my end had come for a few WEEKS. Yuppers, from this point on, I made a concious decision that if I am exposed to people with the flu in nursing, then I need to protect myself. I have had every good intention "I don't want to mess with my immune system" "the flu shot could make me ill" "It is not natural" "It is the government telling me what I need to do with my body". And as I was hacking up half a lung, could hardly get out of the bed, and had a temperature of 101, that is what swayed me into the way of thinking that perhaps this flu shot idea was not half bad. On the flip side of things, to see an infant intubated because they acquired the flu from someone who did not get vaccinated, changes one's perpective a great deal as well. Kids and elderly people die from this stuff. Crusty old bats like me are reduced to tears for the anguish of it all--especially when one is half crazy with a high fever. It sucks, wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. And governmental conspiricy theories--they could use the strains of the flu for population control--as I thought I was a dead woman. For real.[/quote']
Five kids are in ECMO because of the flu...2ParaFlu, 2 Flu A, 1Flu AB... Two kids have died in the past month because of the Flu...
I also had the flu as severe as that...I remember I was about 20 got dropped from my mom's insurance because I went from full-time to part time in school, and I SWORE I was going to DIE as well. Once I got my own insurance two years later, I NEVER decline the flu shot...never again, especially I got it the year I got insurance and was able to afford the z-pack for the mid-upper respiratory infection from having the flu. I get the flu shot as soon as it is available.

morte, LPN, LVN · Feb 17, 2013

I have had 62 winters, and never known to have had the flu. The children Ladyfree's post, I would bet you had underlying conditions. HOW many persons actually die of the "flu"? I am thinking rather few. But the federal government, yes the CMMS is the feds after all, wants to force me to have the vaccine, or I can't work, d/t reduced recompense for my employer. Make no mistake, they know exactly what the consequence of that proposed reg was, they get what they want and are protected from lawsuit. Remember that small group of preg. women in Oz in the ICU with the flu? All of them (4or 5, I think) were IgG def, what is the vac going to do for them? We need to understand that death is inevitable, for some it will be flu or the sequelae there of. And no, I am not anti most vaccines, diptheria, pertussis, tetorifice, cool with me.

pmabraham, BSN, RN · Feb 17, 2013

Good day:

In my case, I've had the flu shot a number of times over the years; and there have been times I've not had it (I'm 49 if that helps put time in perspective).

Every single time I got the shot, I got sick. Whether I got the flu or not had zero (0) to do with whether I had the flu shot. Sometimes I got the flu even though I had the shot; sometimes I did not get the flu (either way). No matter whether I had the shot or not, if I got the flu, it ran the same time frame for how long it lasted.

Based on that experience over time, I've made the decision (and my wife independently came to the same conconclusion) the flu shot for us was not worth the getting sick part with little to no benefit (i.e. zero protection in our case from getting the flu; and zero time benefit if we did get the flu).

Thank you.

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN · Feb 17, 2013

moved to Pandemic flu forum for bet responses/discussion

LadyFree28, BSN, LPN, RN · Feb 17, 2013

I have had 62 winters and never known to have had the flu. The children Ladyfree's post, I would bet you had underlying conditions. HOW many persons actually die of the "flu"? I am thinking rather few. But the federal government, yes the CMMS is the feds after all, wants to force me to have the vaccine, or I can't work, d/t reduced recompense for my employer. Make no mistake, they know exactly what the consequence of that proposed reg was, they get what they want and are protected from lawsuit. Remember that small group of preg. women in Oz in the ICU with the flu? All of them (4or 5, I think) were IgG def, what is the vac going to do for them? We need to understand that death is inevitable, for some it will be flu or the sequelae there of. And no, I am not anti most vaccines, diptheria, pertussis, tetorifice, cool with me.[/quote']
Each pt had no underlying problems, no asthma, nothing, all healthy kids...those parents who are suffering did not possibly THINK that they had to decide to take their children off life support because they were HEALTHY.
The flu can be deadly for anyone...don't think that you have to have an underlying "condition" and lull yourself into a false sense of security...those people or children in our communities end up in the ICU. A few yes, but it doesn't matter...it's REAL.

Altra, BSN, RN · Feb 18, 2013

Influenza-Associated Pediatric Mortality

Pediatric influenza mortality statistics from CDC surveillance.

jadelpn, LPN, EMT-B · Feb 18, 2013

5 week old, full term healthy not an issue in the world infant. At 6 weeks, intubated, and clinging to life.

You know what? If someone thinks their own immune system can fight the flu, that is awesome, however, think about those among us whose can't.

For myself, I was never one to get sick. Ever. Just didn't. Don't like meds, shots, or to be told I "HAD" to do a thing when it came to decisions about my body. And it hit me like a ton of bricks. Since I have had a shot each year, I (and I don't take any regular meds, and when I have had to in the past, I am not one to react well to most meds) have never gotten ill from the shot, and thankfully, have never had even a quarter of the illness that the flu was.

Peoples own choices are just that, people's own choices. But the life you save may not be your own, but someone who is too young to get a shot.