I’m sure you all know about the COVID vaccine and the plan to first vaccinate healthcare workers. How does everyone feel about this vaccine ? I personally do not want it..Where are the long term studies. IDK it’s worrisome to me that it will prob be mandated for us
3 minutes ago, Dimple58 said:My take is, the White House suddenly decided they were not going to take the Pfizer covid vaccine and would wait until a later time got me to thinking that they would not dare to decline something very beneficial.
They didn't decide they didn't want it, there was backlash about the White House cutting in line to get a vaccine before everybody else, so they said they'd wait their turn.
The way my hospital has pitched the vaccine is not particularly reassuring. We're told we need to be monitored for 15 minutes after the vaccine, and should not get it if we've had reactions to medications in the past.
I'm gonna wait and get one down the road once it's had more time to be observed.
28 minutes ago, corn1 said:The way my hospital has pitched the vaccine is not particularly reassuring. We're told we need to be monitored for 15 minutes after the vaccine, and should not get it if we've had reactions to medications in the past.
I'm gonna wait and get one down the road once it's had more time to be observed.
Wouldn’t it be less reassuring if you weren’t being monitored? As an ICU nurse I’m sure that you’ve administered medications that patients sometimes have a reaction to?
This is likely why they’ve decided to monitor for 15 minutes after the injection.
(apologies for the non-peer reviewed source ?)
I can't wait to get the vaccine. I have also volunteered to administer it.
I have 2 high risk children that will get it as soon as they are able (both older than 16).
To me, the fact that this is an mRNA vaccination is important and I feel comfortable that if my organization feels it is safe, I will trust them.
There is no way I will get that vaccine. I am willing to move states or change careers if needed. I've had some side effects from other vaccines and am fairly cautious about them.
Big pharma doesn't care about me, they care about the money. Healthcare is a business. Just look at everyone in HR at your places of work. You're telling me they actually care about you? Scientists can be bought out just like politicians can. The flu shot is such an awesome money maker for vaccine companies. Now they have a second vaccine that they can bank on *annually*. Just imagine how much money this brings them...
I'm curious how many people actually read the vaccine pamphlets? The mass push for the flu shot for children, pregnant women, and healthy adults is not indicated by the information pamphlet that comes with the vaccine.
So many people blindly follow others without every questioning their intentions. It's terrifying.
This vaccine is a HELL no for me.
I bet the 300,000 dead Americans would gladly have taken the vaccine if it was offered to them. Seriously people don’t want it, don’t take it. Quit jabbering on here melodramatically about your qualms. All it does it stir the pot. All I can say is if you get covid after not getting the vaccine, stay home and don’t go to the hospital and take up a bed that someone who would have gladly taken the vaccine could use. I’m so sick of the “oh I don’t know if I’ll get it, it hasn’t been tested long enough.” This is as large as any phase three trial ever has been. We ant afford to study it for 5 years, people of all ages are dying everyday.
5 minutes ago, Mywords1 said:What's the latest on a cure? All we hear about are vaccines.
My Google search showed no special progress for a cure or at least reduction of symptoms.
Which cures for viruses have we achieved to date? Treatment of viral infection is largely supportive. That's why we develop vaccines to prevent the illnesses associated with viral contagions.
4 hours ago, Mywords1 said:What's the latest on a cure? All we hear about are vaccines.
As other posters have already said, we don’t have a cure for most viral diseases and I don’t anticipate that we’ll see one for Covid-19 any time soon.
There’s a reason why we depend on vaccines for protection against many viral diseases. Whereas bacteria can live independently of a host, a virus needs to invade a cell in order to replicate. The virus hijacks the host cell’s internal machinery and uses it.
The following is a rather simplified explanation and a microbiologist would probably laugh their behind off if they read my attempts to explain ? Drugs like antibiotics target something that is different about the bacteria compared to the human cells, and can attack the bacteria selectively (selective toxicity) without hurting the human being with the bacterial infection. The problem with killing a virus isn’t so much that it’s hard to kill the virus, but rather that it’s hard to do it without killing the human cells that the virus has invaded and is using to multiply. If a treatment is toxic to the virus, it is generally also toxic to the human host. Viruses can also do nasty things like invade human cells and then just lie dormant in wait... And they can sometimes hide from a host’s immune system. They are sneaky little ? (<— Pardon my French).
So in most cases we offer supportive treatment while the body’s immune system fights off the virus.
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