CDC states only 10,000 patients died DIRECTLY from Covid

[guest416560]

http://www.drugawareness.org/breaking-news-from-CDC-on-real-covid-death-figures/

Only 10,000 patient have died directly from contracting COVID19. The rest had  underlying medical conditions.

Have we been wrong in they way we shut down America?  Was this all political BS?

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/new-CDC-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

[guest416560]

As an adjunct professor I only ask questions where I know the answers.  I’m using this as a teaching moment.  I have hope even you can grasp a basic mathematical calculation.  

[MunoRN, RN]

4 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

Lets make this simple. 

10,000 people died who according to the data provided did not have any other underlying health condition attributed to their deaths beyond contracting Covid 19.  These were healthy people according to what we know.  What logic do you not follow?

Actinic keratoses contributes to  the formation of squamous cell carcinomas which metastasize in the lungs or liver.  That is nice information to spew but has absolutely nothing to do with Covid 19.

If someone dies from a traumatic car crash where their brains are splattered all over the place but when tests were done it was determined they had Covid so they are counted as a Covid death and not a MVA?

My simple point is 10,000 otherwise healthy people with no known underlying health conditions died directly from Covid 19.  This is what the CDC data states.

I can't make it any more simpler to explain than this. 

 

What the CDC is that of those who died of COVID about 10,000 had no underlying conditions that would have increased their risk of death.  They didn't say that those were the only people who actually died due to COVID.  

To say that a type II diabetic who contracts a COVID infection and develops the established sequalae of a COVID infection and then dies of respiratory failure didn't really die of COVID because of the DM is pretty absurd.

[guest416560]

13 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

 “When you look at it in the number, 10,000 people with no underlying conditions -- healthy people who became infected and died -- I think that’s enough to raise awareness that this is an infection that’s dangerous to people who have underlying conditions but can also cause death and severe complications in people who are totally healthy,” said Hartl.

I'm borrowing this from Herring.  It's black and white.  Spin it any way you want.  Sometimes a student just can't be taught.

[Kitiger, RN]

7 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

I'm borrowing this from Herring.  It's black and white.  Spin it any way you want.  Sometimes a student just can't be taught.

You cannot fill that which is already full.

[londonflo]

42 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

As an adjunct professor I only ask questions where I know the answers.  I’m using this as a teaching moment.

That limits the lines of inquiry that you can expect from your students. And also can stunt your own learning. I have taught ADN and BSN education for years, and one of the most exciting things is, exploring possible answers and discovering what you need to learn to  answer your question. That is essential for establishing life-long learners.

Whose teaching who?

[herring_RN, ASN, BSN]

Anti-Vax Doctor Promotes Conspiracy Theory That Death Certificates Falsely Cite COVID-19

One such theory making the rounds on social media is the idea that death certificates have been knowingly manipulated by medical examiners to inflate the number of COVID-19 deaths, part of a larger right-wing talking point that the government is using the pandemic as an excuse to infringe on American rights...

...   This theory has been propagated by everyone from conspiracy theorist David Icke (who is most notable for his endorsement of the idea that the world is controlled by a cabal of “reptilian elites,” or lizard people) to far-right figure Candace Owens, who tweeted on April 6th: “Turns out everyone is only dying of Coronavirus now. Gee. I wonder why,” 

 ...Dr. Bukacek says, “based on inaccurate, incomplete data, people are being terrorized by fearmongers into relinquishing … freedoms.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/anti-vax-doctor-covid-19-death-certificates-984407/

[Kitiger, RN]

39 minutes ago, londonflo said:

Some time ago, someone posted the following diagram which I copied but did not note who was the author. My apologies and please let me know who you are so that I can give credit. I think this diagram sums up this thread.

I love this diagram!

 

[MunoRN, RN]

19 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

I'm borrowing this from Herring.  It's black and white.  Spin it any way you want.  Sometimes a student just can't be taught.

The quote your borrowed from Herring's contradicts your initial claim, according to the quote those with underlying conditions also died due to a Covid infection.

[herring_RN, ASN, BSN]

If a person would still be living if not for COVID-19 is the virus the cause of death?  

[latebloomer74, LPN]

I’m getting mighty sick of the CDC playing three card monte with us.?

[toomuchbaloney]

On 9/1/2020 at 2:49 PM, FNP2B1 said:

Have we been wrong in they way we shut down America?  Was this all political BS?

Have you answered your questions yet? 

[egg122 NP, MSN, APRN]

On 9/1/2020 at 7:38 PM, FNP2B1 said:

 

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Just because someone has a underlaying co-morbidity doesn't mean their cause of death isn't COVID. It would be like a 90 year old person with dementia, CHF, and CKD developing urosepsis and then having AKI as a sequelae of that. The cause of death is still sepsis due to UTI with CKD, dementia and CHF are complicating factors that made it more likely the patient wouldn't recover but aren't the cause of death. Have you ever completed a death certificate?