Am I Being Bullied?

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Hey guys,

I'm sorry this is so long! I'm a 4th year BSN student, on my way to graduate. Right now I'm in my final practicum with a preceptor who I will be with until I am finished school. I think I'm being bullied by my preceptor, but I'm unsure of how to proceed.

The situation is basically like this: she is a good preceptor. She let's me ask questions, tells me what I'm doing wrong when I'm doing something wrong, leave me alone to be independent when I'm doing skills I know how to do, lets me verbalize skills and the critical thinking involved before I do them when I request it, and is receptive of me asking questions, letting me know where to look for the answers. Her feedback is fair, and I think it is a near accurate assessment of how I am doing.

However, despite all this, on a personal level, I feel as if I'm being bullied. For example, when I walk into the nursing station in the morning, I greet her with a "Good morning, how was your day/week/night?" and I get a, "Good," or, "Fine" with no eye contact, followed by her turning around and gossiping with the other nurses about how her night was. She never asks how I'm doing as a human being or how my day was, and never tried to include me in the discussion. When we're on night shift together, and it's just the two of us, usually we're sitting in complete silence until I say something. Then for the most part, unless it's specifically about something that will improve my learning, I get a one word answer. Once the other nurses come back, she's instantly back into gossip mode, talking away about a topic I know nothing about and have no way of being included in. When we're alone, silence.

When we're in patient rooms together, and she's taking the lead, meeting a patient for the first time or showing me how to do a skill, she does not introduce me to the people in the room, (understandably, after that she's too engrossed in talking to them to give me a chance to say anything so I'm just standing there awkwardly while they're probably wondering why I'm there). If she does introduce me, it's completely off hand and emotionless, as if I have no real purpose for being there. Additionally, when she's demonstrating how to do a skill, she does not verbalize what is happening. And then typically, she walks away from me right after the skill is completed, without giving me a chance to debrief, or ask questions. I feel uncomfortable asking questions in patient rooms when I'm not performing skills, because I don't want to look completely clueless to people I've just met, since I'll be giving care to them later. Whenever I find her later and try to talk to her afterwards, I feel stupid under her emotionless stare (she does let me ask, and she does answer, it's just so unfeeling and unempathetic and almost as if she's talking down to me).

This situation also extends to walking together in the halls to deliver things around the hospital. She walks quickly, gives me one to two word answers to my attempt to start a conversation, and then once we are back at the nursing station, begins a joyful conversation with the other nurses about things in their lives I know nothing about. When I was shadowing her, and engrossed in something else, she would literally get up and walk away so quickly that I was unsure if I should even be following her. She didn't say she was leaving or even check if I was coming.

I feel awkward interrupting her when I need help when she's sitting with other nurses because all I get is this blank, emotionless stare and response. I'm actually afraid that when I ask a stupid question and leave the nursing station, that she will be gossiping about me. Actually, although I know she'll give me a response that will help me with my learning, I hate asking her questions, period. I feel judged, in the way, stupid and I almost feel like crying when she emotionlessly, verbally directs me on where I need to go from her seat to find the answer instead of showing me or working alongside me to make sure I'm actually doing it right. When I don't know the answer to something that she thinks I should have learned (or that I had honestly forgotten), I get this almost-annoyed silent look that just brings my confidence all the way down. Aside from her evaluation of me as a nursing student, I have no idea what she thinks of me. It's the most frustrating, lonely experience I have ever been through. I find myself sitting up at night/morning at the end of shifts, just wracking my brain trying to figure out some sort of conversation topic. Usually, at the end of shifts, she doesn't even say, "Good bye," or "Good job." It's almost always, "You can go home now," followed by her turning her back to me and continuing on with her discussions with the other nurses.

The thought of doing seven more weeks of practice with her is driving my anxiety up the wall. I'm more afraid of being ignored or silently judged by her than what my next set of patients will look like. It's wearing me down emotionally. Talking and laughing with patients is great, but the relationship I have with them is therapeutic - not a friendship, and yet I'm valuing my talks with them more than I do with the people I may one day be working with. I'm always just sitting at the nurses station, in silence, listening to the others having a merry time. When I try to join in (the few times the topics jump to something I understand or feel comfortable with stating my opinion), I just get a one word answer and then the conversation moves on without me. :(

Her treatment of me could be partially my fault; I know I am over friendly and one of those people who tends to act like I'm good friends with people I've just met and tends to reveal more about myself than I should when I'm uncomfortable, which may have initially made her uncomfortable. I know my speech is awkward when I'm not passionate about the topic, and that I sometimes stumble over my words. I also understand there is an age difference between me and her and that in our free time, we don't share similar hobbies. So yes, I understand that it may be hard to get along with me. It's just, when I think of how she treats patients and her colleagues, and then when I reflect on how she treats me, I am filled with this sense of complete loneliness. It's not as if I'm asking her hard questions. Usually it's just, "How are you? Did you sleep well? How was your day off?" or things about the weather. It's all small talk, nothing that you wouldn't expect someone to ask, "How are you?" back after answering. I usually volunteer how I'm feeling after I ask her, because it's just so awkward to leave it at, "Good." That's literally how far our relationship has progressed after twelve, twelve hour shifts together. We've spent hundreds of hours together, and she can't even ask how I'm doing. :(

I feel uncomfortable speaking with the other nurses, because I don't want to have a better relationship with them than I do with her, since I understand that she is volunteering to take me on, and I don't want resentment to build between us. She is one of those "alpha" people who is the topic or the creator of the topic of what people around her talk about, and I feel if I can't get along with her, then it'll be near impossible to have a good relationship with the other nurses (even more so since she is there when I'm with the others 24/7). My existence and personality on the ward, aside from being a "Student Nurse" feels so... unwanted. Like all I should be doing is learning how to nurse instead of forming relationships with the people I work alongside. It'd be fine if it were an eight hour shift, but this is twelve hours, back to back, day in and day out, of having "Me" being ignored.

In conclusion, as a teacher, she is good. For the most part, I understand how I am doing as a student and I feel that she'll never leave me hanging when I gather the courage to interrupt her for help (despite the awful emotionless looks and feelings of being judged). However, as a human being, I feel ignored and unwanted. I don't know if this is how preceptorships are supposed to be, if this is some grand plan to make me more independant instead of relying on her, and I don't know if this is something I can bring up with my instructor, since this has nothing to do with me learning as a student. Make no mistake, I am learning, I'm getting better at thinking for myself based off of fear of talking to her, and I am getting better at not letting every incident or snub bring me down. But, I don't know. Am I being bullied or am I overreacting? Are my feelings valid? Any advice on how to proceed? Any conversation starters? I'm having nightmares and trouble falling asleep over this, and I'm afraid of compromising patient care over being uncomfortable with asking her for help when she's knee deep in a happy "Wendey-proofed" discussion with the others. :(

Specializes in ICU/ Surgery/ Nursing Education.
I know exactly where you are coming from.. you seem as though you are a social butterfly which will maybe one day make you AN AWESOME preceptor if given the chance..being sociable with strangers isnt a trait everyone possess and i hope you dont loose that about yourself

When will Allnurses install the "Love this Button"?

Specializes in hospice.

As someone who suffered actual physical attacks and public character/reputation assassination as part of my bullying experience, I'll just grit my teeth and say no, someone failing to celebrate your presence is not bullying.

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia.

I guess the thing to remember (in ALL of these situations that get posted) is that we only have one side of the story.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
I guess the thing to remember (in ALL of these situations that get posted) is that we only have one side of the story.

This...there's perception, and then REALITY...and even then that's debatable. :blink:

No. You are not being bullied.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.

I'm a reserved person, although I'm very friendly with the people I know. Precepting can be exhausting, then to have someone whom you don't know try to constantly make small talk with you...no, I wouldn't be thrilled with that. And you were going to go complain to your instructor because she doesn't socialize with you? Yikes. Maybe your preceptor is a shy person who is discomfited by your zeal to make her your friend.

As far as not introducing you to her patients, why not speak up and introduce yourself?

In a few weeks you're going to be gone, so instead of trying to force a conversation out of someone who clearly doesn't want to talk, use your down time to study, read a book, call a friend. You should be able to entertain yourself over lunch; doing something on your own would be less stressful than trying to make someone talk to you.

In answer to your question, you are not being bullied...no way, no how. You have a preceptor who is teaching you. Be thankful for that, and look for opportunities to socialize elsewhere.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
My existence and personality on the ward, aside from being a "Student Nurse" feels so... unwanted. Like all I should be doing is learning how to nurse instead of forming relationships with the people I work alongside.

​I think you may be looking at this the wrong way. You're not there to form relationships. You're there to learn how to be a nurse. Maybe if you dial down the oversharing and over-familiarity, you might find her more receptive to you.

As someone who suffered actual physical attacks and public character/reputation assassination as part of my bullying experience, I'll just grit my teeth and say no, someone failing to celebrate your presence is not bullying.

This. I was run out of my first caregiving job by bullies, as in it was so bad that one day I just handed in my badge and walked out. It made me not want to be a nurse anymore, so I put off nursing school for another two years and I'm just finally well enough to start school up again this fall. So many people in my generation seem to think that not being liked or fully accepted as is, is an act of bullying. It's not. People do not have to like us or accept us, and there are quite a few of them who won't, but the distinction is that bullying is harmful. This is a good example of a situation in which someone can both not like you or not want to develop a deep meaningful friendship with you AND also not be bullying you.

You're having a clash of personalities. She doesn't have to like you to teach you and it sounds like she's teaching you very well. If I was the social butterfly type, I would feel insecure, too. It's hard to feel left out, but maybe this is just another way in which she's teaching you--preparing you for this kind of behavior (and/or worse) on the job from other coworkers. She could be having personal drama going on, so when you ask her how her weekend/night/life is, maybe she's just saying "fine" to get out of elaborating. If a loved one is sick or she's going through a divorce or whatever, the pleasantries might not be so pleasant for her--especially if it's followed up with how great your personal life is going, when she didn't even ask. I know it's just what people do ("How are you?" "Good." "Good. Me too."), but she obviously doesn't feel inclined to participate in that small talk. She definitely could be nicer about a lot of this, but she certainly doesn't have to.

Are there other people you can try to be friendly with? Maybe just bring a book or other materials to study for those times when she's talking to the others and won't include you--but make sure it's study material; she may stop her casual conversations to inquire as to why you're wasting time with leisure activities when you could be reviewing nursing skills. You've been doing this for weeks, you know what to anticipate from her, so come prepared. Instead of asking her how her day was, just say "Good evening, I hope you have had a good day. I'm ready to learn about XYZ tonight and [insert other work-related items here]." That way, you can still do the pleasantries, but you aren't asking for a response to it and then you've immediately followed it with work-related dialogue. Changing your approach could be very beneficial.

Best of luck. Just remember this situation is not forever.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

She's fair, she's involved in your learning and she's teaching you well. That's a good preceptor. The fact that she's not a social as you'd like her to be isn't HER fault. She's probably a bit shy. She talks to her colleagues because she's gotten to know them over time -- years, maybe. You, she doesn't know and may be too shy to lob those conversational balls you keep throwing at her. That's not bullying, and the fact that you would even ask the question makes me question your good sense and professionalism. A preceptor who isn't as friendly as you would like is not a bully. Especially if she's a good preceptor!

Specializes in Hospitalist Medicine.

Having been a manager in the corporate world, there's a good reason why your preceptor isn't "buddying up" to you. It would be viewed as her being bias towards you or showing favoritism. One thing you cannot do as a manager or preceptor is show any sort of favoritism or bias. It leads to a whole can of worms if another student or employee lodged a complaint. And, believe me, it DOES happen! The best way to avoid that is to minimize any chit chat while on the job. Yes, you can be cordial & polite about it and I think this is where she's falling short. However, I would definitely NOT consider her behavior bullying.

You are not there to make friends, you are there to learn.

OP, this person is your preceptor, and not your friend. There should be no "I hope they all like me" in this, it is "are my patient's satisfied that I am practicing well".

You state that this preceptor is very accurate in her assessment of your work. That is the single most important thing in this.

Here's a thought process that may work for you. Instead of sitting at the nurse's station ask if you can go check on the patients--pop in, say hi, assess pain, fill water pitchers--and if you are able, see if anyone needs to get up and go to the bathroom, wants to get up to a chair, that type of thing. If you have ambulation orders, see if you can walk patients--and if you have total cares that need to be turned q2 hours, ask if you can assist your CNA in doing this. It is pretty amazing to watch a good CNA do what they do. I learned more about how to move a patient (amongst many other things) from CNA's than anyone else.

Be sure to know what your patient schedule is. If you are about to give meds, and don't really have time to get involved in another aspect of care, ask if you can review the chart instead. Once you get a full picture on a patient, it can only help you going forward in your career.

And also ask if you can go into rooms and introduce yourself. Take vitals, and do an initial assessement, and report back to the preceptor for them to do a secondary.

Get into practice of making sure you can ID the patient, assess risk for skin/fall, you assess IV sites, any open wounds--

Just get permission to do things other than sit in silence.

There are some preceptors who are acutely aware that if they become friends with their preceptees it could be considered not such a good thing--in that they are giving you preferential treatment as you all are BFF's. They need to be a lot more impartial.

Best of luck going forward!

Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.

I am not a social or chit chat sort of person. That does mean that I dislike someone or am being cold or mean. It does mean that it requires more effort to spend all day being talkative and social to be acceptable with coworkers and patients.

Sometimes, when I have an intense day or severely sick patients, I have to be "on stage" for 14 straight non stop hours, with maybe 20 minutes to inhale food. All warm but professional, all watching what I say, to maintain calm, monitor all issues, and focus on the critical problem, and to teach the student, without showing any stress, annoyance at repeated questions and remain patient. And, no, I am not interested in making idle chit chat, when I have a few minutes off the stage.

I love my preceptees, but so help me, I need a certain amount of time to think, organize my thoughts, and some peace. And if my weekend was "fine", what is the problem, with saying it is fine and leaving it at that? My life is rather boring and I prefer that way. I do not feel the need to broadcast all of my business to my coworkers or preceptees, because work is work and home is home.

Seriously, what is this difficulty that people have with silence or quiet, as a norm?

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