Am I Being Bullied?

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Hey guys,

I'm sorry this is so long! I'm a 4th year BSN student, on my way to graduate. Right now I'm in my final practicum with a preceptor who I will be with until I am finished school. I think I'm being bullied by my preceptor, but I'm unsure of how to proceed.

The situation is basically like this: she is a good preceptor. She let's me ask questions, tells me what I'm doing wrong when I'm doing something wrong, leave me alone to be independent when I'm doing skills I know how to do, lets me verbalize skills and the critical thinking involved before I do them when I request it, and is receptive of me asking questions, letting me know where to look for the answers. Her feedback is fair, and I think it is a near accurate assessment of how I am doing.

However, despite all this, on a personal level, I feel as if I'm being bullied. For example, when I walk into the nursing station in the morning, I greet her with a "Good morning, how was your day/week/night?" and I get a, "Good," or, "Fine" with no eye contact, followed by her turning around and gossiping with the other nurses about how her night was. She never asks how I'm doing as a human being or how my day was, and never tried to include me in the discussion. When we're on night shift together, and it's just the two of us, usually we're sitting in complete silence until I say something. Then for the most part, unless it's specifically about something that will improve my learning, I get a one word answer. Once the other nurses come back, she's instantly back into gossip mode, talking away about a topic I know nothing about and have no way of being included in. When we're alone, silence.

When we're in patient rooms together, and she's taking the lead, meeting a patient for the first time or showing me how to do a skill, she does not introduce me to the people in the room, (understandably, after that she's too engrossed in talking to them to give me a chance to say anything so I'm just standing there awkwardly while they're probably wondering why I'm there). If she does introduce me, it's completely off hand and emotionless, as if I have no real purpose for being there. Additionally, when she's demonstrating how to do a skill, she does not verbalize what is happening. And then typically, she walks away from me right after the skill is completed, without giving me a chance to debrief, or ask questions. I feel uncomfortable asking questions in patient rooms when I'm not performing skills, because I don't want to look completely clueless to people I've just met, since I'll be giving care to them later. Whenever I find her later and try to talk to her afterwards, I feel stupid under her emotionless stare (she does let me ask, and she does answer, it's just so unfeeling and unempathetic and almost as if she's talking down to me).

This situation also extends to walking together in the halls to deliver things around the hospital. She walks quickly, gives me one to two word answers to my attempt to start a conversation, and then once we are back at the nursing station, begins a joyful conversation with the other nurses about things in their lives I know nothing about. When I was shadowing her, and engrossed in something else, she would literally get up and walk away so quickly that I was unsure if I should even be following her. She didn't say she was leaving or even check if I was coming.

I feel awkward interrupting her when I need help when she's sitting with other nurses because all I get is this blank, emotionless stare and response. I'm actually afraid that when I ask a stupid question and leave the nursing station, that she will be gossiping about me. Actually, although I know she'll give me a response that will help me with my learning, I hate asking her questions, period. I feel judged, in the way, stupid and I almost feel like crying when she emotionlessly, verbally directs me on where I need to go from her seat to find the answer instead of showing me or working alongside me to make sure I'm actually doing it right. When I don't know the answer to something that she thinks I should have learned (or that I had honestly forgotten), I get this almost-annoyed silent look that just brings my confidence all the way down. Aside from her evaluation of me as a nursing student, I have no idea what she thinks of me. It's the most frustrating, lonely experience I have ever been through. I find myself sitting up at night/morning at the end of shifts, just wracking my brain trying to figure out some sort of conversation topic. Usually, at the end of shifts, she doesn't even say, "Good bye," or "Good job." It's almost always, "You can go home now," followed by her turning her back to me and continuing on with her discussions with the other nurses.

The thought of doing seven more weeks of practice with her is driving my anxiety up the wall. I'm more afraid of being ignored or silently judged by her than what my next set of patients will look like. It's wearing me down emotionally. Talking and laughing with patients is great, but the relationship I have with them is therapeutic - not a friendship, and yet I'm valuing my talks with them more than I do with the people I may one day be working with. I'm always just sitting at the nurses station, in silence, listening to the others having a merry time. When I try to join in (the few times the topics jump to something I understand or feel comfortable with stating my opinion), I just get a one word answer and then the conversation moves on without me. :(

Her treatment of me could be partially my fault; I know I am over friendly and one of those people who tends to act like I'm good friends with people I've just met and tends to reveal more about myself than I should when I'm uncomfortable, which may have initially made her uncomfortable. I know my speech is awkward when I'm not passionate about the topic, and that I sometimes stumble over my words. I also understand there is an age difference between me and her and that in our free time, we don't share similar hobbies. So yes, I understand that it may be hard to get along with me. It's just, when I think of how she treats patients and her colleagues, and then when I reflect on how she treats me, I am filled with this sense of complete loneliness. It's not as if I'm asking her hard questions. Usually it's just, "How are you? Did you sleep well? How was your day off?" or things about the weather. It's all small talk, nothing that you wouldn't expect someone to ask, "How are you?" back after answering. I usually volunteer how I'm feeling after I ask her, because it's just so awkward to leave it at, "Good." That's literally how far our relationship has progressed after twelve, twelve hour shifts together. We've spent hundreds of hours together, and she can't even ask how I'm doing. :(

I feel uncomfortable speaking with the other nurses, because I don't want to have a better relationship with them than I do with her, since I understand that she is volunteering to take me on, and I don't want resentment to build between us. She is one of those "alpha" people who is the topic or the creator of the topic of what people around her talk about, and I feel if I can't get along with her, then it'll be near impossible to have a good relationship with the other nurses (even more so since she is there when I'm with the others 24/7). My existence and personality on the ward, aside from being a "Student Nurse" feels so... unwanted. Like all I should be doing is learning how to nurse instead of forming relationships with the people I work alongside. It'd be fine if it were an eight hour shift, but this is twelve hours, back to back, day in and day out, of having "Me" being ignored.

In conclusion, as a teacher, she is good. For the most part, I understand how I am doing as a student and I feel that she'll never leave me hanging when I gather the courage to interrupt her for help (despite the awful emotionless looks and feelings of being judged). However, as a human being, I feel ignored and unwanted. I don't know if this is how preceptorships are supposed to be, if this is some grand plan to make me more independant instead of relying on her, and I don't know if this is something I can bring up with my instructor, since this has nothing to do with me learning as a student. Make no mistake, I am learning, I'm getting better at thinking for myself based off of fear of talking to her, and I am getting better at not letting every incident or snub bring me down. But, I don't know. Am I being bullied or am I overreacting? Are my feelings valid? Any advice on how to proceed? Any conversation starters? I'm having nightmares and trouble falling asleep over this, and I'm afraid of compromising patient care over being uncomfortable with asking her for help when she's knee deep in a happy "Wendey-proofed" discussion with the others. :(

Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

Not wanting to be BFF with you doesn't mean your preceptor (or anyone for that matter) is a bully. Some nurses don't like to mix work and socializing...and for the record, that attitude doesn't necessarily mean she's not a good and/or compassionate nurse. She can very well be both: she just prefers to keep her social circles out of her workplace. So don't take it personally.

Specializes in public health, women's health, reproductive health.

Some people seem to have lost perspective on what the would "bully" means. This is not bullying. She does seem cold and unfriendly toward you, which is no small thing to bear when you are doing a preceptorship, I can imagine. Still, it's not bullying.

I was once placed with a nurse just like that during clinical. I am not an overly friendly person, nor do I expect nurses to hold my hand and treat me with tender loving kindness. However, when someone is just stone cold or treats you with what comes off as silent disdain, it's quite crushing to a student nurse trying to build confidence. I am sorry your preceptor is like this. Just keep reminding yourself that it isn't long before it will be over and do your very best. I wish you much success.

Specializes in ICU/ Surgery/ Nursing Education.

Sorry, this in no way is bullying. Sounds like the preceptor is one in which believes that you are not a colleague, just a student. Sorry to agree with her but she is right. This in no way means she should be cold about it. At least she is doing her job and providing you with a good nursing experience.

Now a question for you, do you want to be part of her gossiping about other nurses? I would suggest to you to take this as another learning experience. Stay away from that inappropriate behavior and determine no to be part of that once you become a nurse. This is not professional and truly a negative force in the workplace. I think every day how lucky I am to work in a unit where this does not happen!!

And, I always went into the patient's room and introduced myself and performed all the hourly checks. Take the bull by the horns unless this would be something your preceptor would not like. Where I was hired they were impressed that I took initiative and exuded confidence. I was hired 1 week after passing the NCLEX.

She sounds like she is giving you a dose of reality. It's a work place and she is a coworker. I'm extra friendly, just like you. For our personality types, this will be hard to accept. I have a friend who has already given me the warning not to be so friendly, and keep my personal stories at home. And to be ware of the 'friendlies', who may not be as friendly as you think. Who would use anything you say, to gossip about when your not there, to their real friends. Not the student or newbie who might not be there in a few weeks.

For you, she is perfect. It might help you learn to curb it and keep it professional. Hopefully I will get as lucky. I'm such a sucker, I can see my self putting my foot in it.

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia.

You are not being bullied.

Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.
She sounds like she is giving you a dose of reality. It's a work place and she is a coworker. I'm extra friendly, just like you. For our personality types, this will be hard to accept. I have a friend who has already given me the warning not to be so friendly, and keep my personal stories at home. And to be ware of the 'friendlies', who may not be as friendly as you think. Who would use anything you say, to gossip about when your not there, to their real friends. Not the student or newbie who might not be there in a few weeks.

For you, she is perfect. It might help you learn to curb it and keep it professional. Hopefully I will get as lucky. I'm such a sucker, I can see my self putting my foot in it.

Actually my coworkers are my best friends. We socialize out of work and know what's going on in each others lives. I recently went to the birthday party for one. Nothing like getting silly with your coworkers.

Is she a shy person? She might just feel awkward in a position of "authority", having to introduce you etc. She may also just not want to precept a student and make it quite obvious that she's annoyed with your presence, which in that case I would consider it bullying, but it could be worse. Here are some journal articles on it :https://www.amsn.org/sites/default/files/documents/practice-resources/healthy-work-environment/resources/MSNJ_Murray_18_05.pdf

Bullying and Workplace Violence

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/11/when-the-nurse-is-a-bully/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Ive had a preceptor look at me like I had 3 heads everytime I had a question, and Ive seen her enthusiastically speaking to a group of co-workers to then just turn around and give me short "yes" and "no" answers as if I was crud on the bottom of her shoe, then turn around and carry on her conversation oh-so delightfully. She also told me since I was educated out of state that I had a "larger learning curve than most" without offering any real constructive criticism, which I felt was a comment only intended to undermine my confidence, which was bullying. Ive had more experienced nurses pick apart my report and purposely make me feel incompetent. So, if you feel you are being bullied or that she is being incivil, then I would say you are. You can ask to be with a different preceptor but the grass is not always greener. So if it is something you can deal with until this phase of school is over, then deal with it. I precepted a student who was failed in her last semester because she had a nurse precept her who was a bully. If you think she is going to lead you to failure, then ask to switch.

I think it sounds like she is showing passive aggressive behavior toward you. Maybe you just rub her the wrong way or maybe she just doesn't like the extra burden of precepting or perhaps she's jealous of you. Whatever it is she will deny that anythings wrong if you confront her. The best thing you can do is to quit trying so hard to make small talk and be friendly toward her. Just be professional and try not to let her behavior bother you. Since you said you are in your last semester take the nightshift down times to study and look up disease processes you're unfamiliar with. Don't let her see that she is getting to you. That's the positive reinforcement she wants.

Specializes in Cardiac Stepdown, PCU.
Actually my coworkers are my best friends. We socialize out of work and know what's going on in each others lives. I recently went to the birthday party for one. Nothing like getting silly with your coworkers.

I would assume this was after you actually got to know your coworkers and fit in with them. You didn't walk in the door on the first day and suddenly become besties.

The only thing I can say it's stop trying so hard, just makes things awkward. Just mind your own business, use your free time to learn more things. Whatever relationship evolves just let it happen naturally.

Oh well. Here goes.

With all of the talk of bullying lately, I have tried to stay out of the conversation. Do I think you are being bullied? No. Does that means that this person needs to act with a degree of manners? Yes. While I understand the nurses who are busy and taking on a student can be stressful and tedious, I am really getting tired of hard working, enthusiastic students being told to "put their tail between their legs" and put up with this (for lack of a better word) crap. What makes anyone feel the right to make another human being feel isolated or worthless? I have taught my children that if someone says good morning to you, you say good morning back. There is no need for anyone to treat people as if they are useless, much less someone in a position of authority, or as a teacher.

I would speak to her. Not adversarially, but just mention that you do not expect to be friends, but appreciate a "hello" or a decent response. Preceptors are not Godly. Students are not trash. People need to start treating their colleagues (and yes, students will become colleagues very soon) with respect. Just as the nurse with thirty years experience deserves respect, as does the student. We are all people! Enough with the phoney hierarchy. When it comes to knowledge and proficiency, the experienced nurse wins hands down. When it comes to treating people decently, there should be no differentiation.

I know exactly where you are coming from.. you seem as though you are a social butterfly which will maybe one day make you AN AWESOME preceptor if given the chance..being sociable with strangers isnt a trait everyone possess and i hope you dont loose that about yourself

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