Am I Being Bullied?

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Hey guys,

I'm sorry this is so long! I'm a 4th year BSN student, on my way to graduate. Right now I'm in my final practicum with a preceptor who I will be with until I am finished school. I think I'm being bullied by my preceptor, but I'm unsure of how to proceed.

The situation is basically like this: she is a good preceptor. She let's me ask questions, tells me what I'm doing wrong when I'm doing something wrong, leave me alone to be independent when I'm doing skills I know how to do, lets me verbalize skills and the critical thinking involved before I do them when I request it, and is receptive of me asking questions, letting me know where to look for the answers. Her feedback is fair, and I think it is a near accurate assessment of how I am doing.

However, despite all this, on a personal level, I feel as if I'm being bullied. For example, when I walk into the nursing station in the morning, I greet her with a "Good morning, how was your day/week/night?" and I get a, "Good," or, "Fine" with no eye contact, followed by her turning around and gossiping with the other nurses about how her night was. She never asks how I'm doing as a human being or how my day was, and never tried to include me in the discussion. When we're on night shift together, and it's just the two of us, usually we're sitting in complete silence until I say something. Then for the most part, unless it's specifically about something that will improve my learning, I get a one word answer. Once the other nurses come back, she's instantly back into gossip mode, talking away about a topic I know nothing about and have no way of being included in. When we're alone, silence.

When we're in patient rooms together, and she's taking the lead, meeting a patient for the first time or showing me how to do a skill, she does not introduce me to the people in the room, (understandably, after that she's too engrossed in talking to them to give me a chance to say anything so I'm just standing there awkwardly while they're probably wondering why I'm there). If she does introduce me, it's completely off hand and emotionless, as if I have no real purpose for being there. Additionally, when she's demonstrating how to do a skill, she does not verbalize what is happening. And then typically, she walks away from me right after the skill is completed, without giving me a chance to debrief, or ask questions. I feel uncomfortable asking questions in patient rooms when I'm not performing skills, because I don't want to look completely clueless to people I've just met, since I'll be giving care to them later. Whenever I find her later and try to talk to her afterwards, I feel stupid under her emotionless stare (she does let me ask, and she does answer, it's just so unfeeling and unempathetic and almost as if she's talking down to me).

This situation also extends to walking together in the halls to deliver things around the hospital. She walks quickly, gives me one to two word answers to my attempt to start a conversation, and then once we are back at the nursing station, begins a joyful conversation with the other nurses about things in their lives I know nothing about. When I was shadowing her, and engrossed in something else, she would literally get up and walk away so quickly that I was unsure if I should even be following her. She didn't say she was leaving or even check if I was coming.

I feel awkward interrupting her when I need help when she's sitting with other nurses because all I get is this blank, emotionless stare and response. I'm actually afraid that when I ask a stupid question and leave the nursing station, that she will be gossiping about me. Actually, although I know she'll give me a response that will help me with my learning, I hate asking her questions, period. I feel judged, in the way, stupid and I almost feel like crying when she emotionlessly, verbally directs me on where I need to go from her seat to find the answer instead of showing me or working alongside me to make sure I'm actually doing it right. When I don't know the answer to something that she thinks I should have learned (or that I had honestly forgotten), I get this almost-annoyed silent look that just brings my confidence all the way down. Aside from her evaluation of me as a nursing student, I have no idea what she thinks of me. It's the most frustrating, lonely experience I have ever been through. I find myself sitting up at night/morning at the end of shifts, just wracking my brain trying to figure out some sort of conversation topic. Usually, at the end of shifts, she doesn't even say, "Good bye," or "Good job." It's almost always, "You can go home now," followed by her turning her back to me and continuing on with her discussions with the other nurses.

The thought of doing seven more weeks of practice with her is driving my anxiety up the wall. I'm more afraid of being ignored or silently judged by her than what my next set of patients will look like. It's wearing me down emotionally. Talking and laughing with patients is great, but the relationship I have with them is therapeutic - not a friendship, and yet I'm valuing my talks with them more than I do with the people I may one day be working with. I'm always just sitting at the nurses station, in silence, listening to the others having a merry time. When I try to join in (the few times the topics jump to something I understand or feel comfortable with stating my opinion), I just get a one word answer and then the conversation moves on without me. :(

Her treatment of me could be partially my fault; I know I am over friendly and one of those people who tends to act like I'm good friends with people I've just met and tends to reveal more about myself than I should when I'm uncomfortable, which may have initially made her uncomfortable. I know my speech is awkward when I'm not passionate about the topic, and that I sometimes stumble over my words. I also understand there is an age difference between me and her and that in our free time, we don't share similar hobbies. So yes, I understand that it may be hard to get along with me. It's just, when I think of how she treats patients and her colleagues, and then when I reflect on how she treats me, I am filled with this sense of complete loneliness. It's not as if I'm asking her hard questions. Usually it's just, "How are you? Did you sleep well? How was your day off?" or things about the weather. It's all small talk, nothing that you wouldn't expect someone to ask, "How are you?" back after answering. I usually volunteer how I'm feeling after I ask her, because it's just so awkward to leave it at, "Good." That's literally how far our relationship has progressed after twelve, twelve hour shifts together. We've spent hundreds of hours together, and she can't even ask how I'm doing. :(

I feel uncomfortable speaking with the other nurses, because I don't want to have a better relationship with them than I do with her, since I understand that she is volunteering to take me on, and I don't want resentment to build between us. She is one of those "alpha" people who is the topic or the creator of the topic of what people around her talk about, and I feel if I can't get along with her, then it'll be near impossible to have a good relationship with the other nurses (even more so since she is there when I'm with the others 24/7). My existence and personality on the ward, aside from being a "Student Nurse" feels so... unwanted. Like all I should be doing is learning how to nurse instead of forming relationships with the people I work alongside. It'd be fine if it were an eight hour shift, but this is twelve hours, back to back, day in and day out, of having "Me" being ignored.

In conclusion, as a teacher, she is good. For the most part, I understand how I am doing as a student and I feel that she'll never leave me hanging when I gather the courage to interrupt her for help (despite the awful emotionless looks and feelings of being judged). However, as a human being, I feel ignored and unwanted. I don't know if this is how preceptorships are supposed to be, if this is some grand plan to make me more independant instead of relying on her, and I don't know if this is something I can bring up with my instructor, since this has nothing to do with me learning as a student. Make no mistake, I am learning, I'm getting better at thinking for myself based off of fear of talking to her, and I am getting better at not letting every incident or snub bring me down. But, I don't know. Am I being bullied or am I overreacting? Are my feelings valid? Any advice on how to proceed? Any conversation starters? I'm having nightmares and trouble falling asleep over this, and I'm afraid of compromising patient care over being uncomfortable with asking her for help when she's knee deep in a happy "Wendey-proofed" discussion with the others. :(

Firstly, can there not be levels of bullying? Secondly, while idle chit-chat is not a necessity, kindness IS. Simply being kind and saying a few more words beyond "yes", "no", "fine" doesn't mean the preceptor is her new BFF. She is clearly alienating the student, whatever her reason. And she likely knows the student feels uncomfortable. Of course the student is there to learn and not there to make friends, but I call BS on the "preceptor is just doing her job" blather. I don't think part of precepting is making the student feel uncomfortable. How does that foster a good learning experience? Thirdly, have we forgotten? Nursing is a smaaaaall world. You never know where you're going to end up.

"I've saved some sunlight if you should ever need a place away from darkness where your mind can feed." - Rod McKuen

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Firstly, can there not be levels of bullying? Secondly, while idle chit-chat is not a necessity, kindness IS. Simply being kind and saying a few more words beyond "yes", "no", "fine" doesn't mean the preceptor is her new BFF. She is clearly alienating the student, whatever her reason. And she likely knows the student feels uncomfortable. Of course the student is there to learn and not there to make friends, but I call BS on the "preceptor is just doing her job" blather. I don't think part of precepting is making the student feel uncomfortable. How does that foster a good learning experience? Thirdly, have we forgotten? Nursing is a smaaaaall world. You never know where you're going to end up.

"I've saved some sunlight if you should ever need a place away from darkness where your mind can feed." - Rod McKuen

Yes there are levels of bullying, but I don't think the OP's example rises to the level of any of them.

Perhaps the preceptor IS being kind. She has let the OP know several times that she's not interested in idle chit chat. She hasn't screamed "SHUDDUP ALREADY" at the student, which is indeed a kindness since the OP clearly doesn't "get it" and continues to try to engage. I see no reason why all of the interactions between student and preceptor should be at the student's comfort level, ignoring the comfort level of the preceptor. As long as the preceptor is fair, approachable and actually engaged in teaching, there is no requirement that she succumb to endless nattering and chattering. If she isn't comfortable with constant chitchat, if it interferes with her ability to think through problems and priorities, then the student needs to back off already. The student is a guest in the facility, she is clearly making the preceptor uncomfortable and she needs to back off already.

Believe it or not, the student/preceptor or the orientee/preceptor experience is NOT all about the student or the orientee. The student or orientee is just as responsible for the tenor of the relationship, and if they are making the preceptor uncomfortable, anxious or unable to concentrate with constant social chattering, they need to be sensitive to the cues the preceptor is giving and CUT IT OUT. I'm sure no one thinks the preceptor should go nuclear and scream at/report/ignore the orientee. The orientee, then, needs to pick up on the hints or cues thrown out.

Nursing is indeed a small world, and the student or orientee who alienates one preceptor may find herself on an awkward footing with ALL the preceptors on that unit. And if she wants to work there, she may find that none of the preceptors want to work with her.

So please, this is not intended to be rude, but tell me, what is the true nature bullying? My definition: an individual intentionally hurts the feelings of someone else.

To borrow from another thread, it's a bruise, not a tattoo. None of us get through life without bruises, but we don't have to keep picking at a wound to make it worse than it is.

Definition: Bully: to hurt, intimidate, or persecute a weaker or smaller person, especially to make him do something. (dictionary.com)

Note that "especially to make (i.e., force) him to do something."

"Hurt" is in the physical sense.

"Intimidation" (literally, to make timid) can be in the mind of the beholder if it's verbal, which fortunately for you means that it's your choice to be or not to be intimidated by someone's words. Are you a weaker or smaller person? Don't be.

Physical intimidation-- shoving, physical blows, etc.-- is bullying.

"Persecute" isn't just "hurting feelings," as you can see by the following explanation of its origins.

"Persecution" has a particular meaning. Jews were persecuted in many forms over the centuries; DaVinci was persecuted for believing the earth moved around the sun. You are not being persecuted if somebody hurts your feelings.

persecution c.1340, "oppression for the holding of a belief or opinion," from O.Fr. persecution (12c.), from L.persecutionem (nom. persecutio), noun of action from persequi "pursue, start a legal action," from per-"through" + sequi "follow" (see sequel).

So, now we know that a bully forces someone smaller and weaker to do something by way of physical or psychological abuse or threats of same. "Gimme your lunch money every school day or I'll pound ya!" "Take off your pants, you wimp, or I'll hurt your little sister!" See those required elements? Force smaller/weaker person to do something by means of force. I'm so not seeing this here.

Specializes in Forensic Psych.

I'm going to admit I did not read all of that.

But based on the good sized chunk I did read, it doesn't sound lol bullying to me. It doesn't sound like she's trying to make you feel badly about yourself or trying to create enemies for you. And she's doing her job.

She may just not be a nice person. Maybe she just doesn't like you.

I'm not saying you should be all flowers and sunshine...one of the toughest semesters of my college life was spent with a clinical instructor who's effigy I burned at our end of semester bonfire - she made my life THAT miserable. But I don't think "not being friendly" is bullying. She does sound rude, though.

Specializes in ER, ICU, Education.

Again, we don't know both sides. I remember having a student on an incredibly busy day with two critical patients. The day started out insane from minute 1. I did warn her that the day was crazy, and to not ask questions until I gave her the ok, then we would discuss in full. She talked, and talked, and talked while I was trying to manage a pre-code patient. I finally said "Hush!" And I love having students. She just...would not...stop...talking! I tried to dissuade her with minimal replies. She prattled on. I asked her outright to wait with questions. Still talking. I finally reached wits end and said it. OP, perhaps your preceptor need quiet space to think. Perhaps she is an introvert with those she doesn't know well. The stress as a student is nothing like that of a nurse. As the student, you can ask your instructor or nurse. As a nurse, you're the last line of defense. Your preceptor may be on a really busy floor. She may be a first time preceptor. Who knows?

What we do know is she doesn't want to chat. I would respect that. In an ideal world, we would have a perfect personality match with all staff and patients, but that isn't reality. It would be great if you two clicked perfectly, but you don't. Take what you can and move on! Use this time to develop initiative and a thicker skin. You can't control others, only your reaction to them. There will be patients who immediately dislike you for one reason or another, some completely arbitrary. This is preparation.

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