allnurses mentioned in AJN and it ain't flattering

Blackcat99 · Mar 4, 2005

I'm so glad I turned down that subscription offer from AJN. For crying out loud, I was just goofing around when I said those things. I would never ever take part in giving any inmate a lethal injection.

begalli · Mar 4, 2005

I saw it in my AJN.

Can you tell me which issue? I'm a bit behind with my journals as well.

Thanks! :)

LydiaNN · Mar 4, 2005

Oh well, they say any attention is good attention! We'll probably get some new members. I imagine the readers of AJN have opinions roughly representative of the variety of opinions expressed in the thread.

CHATSDALE · Mar 4, 2005

i didn't read the article and i must have missed the thread. or else i have forgotten it

i did read an article where the of gove of [maybe kentucky] is a licensed md and that he was being threatened with the loss of his license because an md cannot do anything to end a human life..this is the reason that the IVs are usually started by a nurse or a tech in the death chamber...

i don't know if push came to shove if i could participate in an execution even as a witness

you see so many being sentenced to death and the next guy [probably with more money] serving time in prison.. maybe though the guy in death row is luckier than that other guy..he is not in the general prison population and he has automatic appeals w/o charge

Tweety, BSN, RN · Mar 4, 2005

Can you tell me which issue? I'm a bit behind with my journals as well.
Thanks! :)

March 2005

begalli · Mar 4, 2005

Thanks Tweety!!

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Mar 4, 2005

just opened ajn while computer warming up

ajn - march 2005, volume 105, issue 3 pg 19+ 20

'first, do no harm'-unless it's your job?: a question

of ethics. kennedy, maureen shawn ma, rn. ...

www.ajnonline.com/pt/re/ajn/currenttoc

must be subscriber to access article online.

focus of the article is that there is an ethical conflict some physicians and nurses are being placed in when working in prision system or as state employee:governor, legislator etc... our professional associations: ana and ama have stated opposion to nurses and doctors involement in executions; yet their job role has requirement for participation in execution.

ana's code for ethics states:

the code for nurses, nursing's ethical code of conduct, stipulates that "the nurse does not act deliberately to terminate the life of any person." the obligation to refrain from causing death is longstanding and should not be breached even when legally sanctioned.

ethics and human rights position statements: nurses' participation in capital punishment

additionaly this policy states:

nurses should refrain from participation in capital punishment and not take part in assessment, supervision or monitoring of the procedure or the prisoner; procuring, prescribing or preparing medications or solutions; inserting the intravenous catheter; injecting the lethal solution; and attending or witnessing the execution as a nurse. the fact that capital punishment is currently supported in many segments of society does not override the obligation of nurses to uphold the ethical mandates of the profession. the ana recognizes that the endorsement of the death penalty remains a personal decision and that individual nurses may have views that are different from the official position of the profession. regardless of the personal opinion of the nurse on the appropriateness of capital punishment, it is a breach of the ethical traditions of nursing, and the code for nurses to participate in taking life of any person.

ama's ethics council has similar language: "a physician ...should not be a participant in a legally authorized execution" problems with lethal injection

author posted out that this violation of ethics isn't apparent to many nurses and included allnurses.com comment as an example. exact post not cited.

thought maureen kennedy's point well taken. see that she is ajn's news director (listed at top of column).

i've spoken with diana mason ajn editor in chief at ana conventions, may have met maureen at last convention attended with brian but am glad they are visting here.

email your concerns to: [email protected]

3/4/05 correction:

author of article is dalia sofer.

news director is maureen kennedy.

BRANDY LPN · Mar 4, 2005

I found a link to the article::

http://cms.nursingcenter.com/dev/library/JournalArticle.asp?Article_ID=573335

gwenith, BSN, RN · Mar 4, 2005

What needs to be pointed out to the author and the AJN that this is the internet. Although all the moderators here are nurses and have to submit evidence of registration/enrollment/licencing that is not true for the members. Nor do we WANT to vet every single member because that would not only be a nightmare for us but it would preclude our many pre-nursing students that contibute so valuably to this forum.

steelcityrn, RN · Mar 4, 2005

I read this yesterday in my AJN. Even though those who were quoted claim they were just joking around, they crossed the line. Open mouth and incert foot! If you TRUELY are a nurse, your emphesis would always be on caring for people!

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Mar 4, 2005

Often when i do google search on topics looking for clinical articles, allnurses posts are at top of search feature. Members need to be mindful of that when posting as what's in black 'n white believed to be a "true statement".

fergus51 · Mar 4, 2005

I'm always getting in trouble for putting my foot in my mouth, but come on! Rather than talk about nurses who actually participate in this and leave it at that, this woman complains that people made some off color satirical comments on an internet bb? Nice to know some people have nothing better to do than troll around looking for posts they can twist to try to prove their arguments... I'd tell her to get a life and she can quote me on that if she likes,

signed,

fergus51

happily posting without worrying about the pc police.....