Published Dec 3, 2015
Emergent, RN
4,278 Posts
I'm of strong opinion that courses like ACLS should NEVER be taught via a computer program. Worksheets, reading materials, practice tests are okay, but not the course itself.
I also feel strongly that everyone should ALWAYS complete both days. No skipping day one if recertifying. Even in the ER, codes are rare. These skills are too important the teach in a half-assed fashion.
Kyrshamarks, BSN, RN
1 Article; 631 Posts
Codes are "rare"? Not where I work. we have an average of 3 to 4 a week. Sometimes many more.
guest769224
1,698 Posts
Same with my ER. 75 bed, level 1
martymoose, BSN, RN
1,946 Posts
The computer program is a PITA. I like the old way better.
VANurse2010
1,526 Posts
Uh, no. Two days for initial certification? Sure. One day is sufficient for renewal.
3-4 codes a week in a big ER is not a lot. Most of our codes come in with a code in progress. It's much more unusual for some of the other scenarios presented by ACLS, especially when your patient population dominated by lots of non-emergencies.
My point being, ACLS, PALS, etc, are important courses. The trend towards doing it online is not a good one. We should not water down these vital courses.
dudette10, MSN, RN
3,530 Posts
I do think the new way of presenting it online is really cool. I tried to kill a couple of the patients by choosing hare-brained interventions (like giving atropine for tachycardia), but the computer program kept them going.
anon456, BSN, RN
3 Articles; 1,144 Posts
Having just performed compressions on an infant recently at work, I can tell you that practicing on the mannequins was essential for me to know what to do. My hands remembered from my training. How can you practice these things without touching mannequins and other skills like applying pads and drawing up meds in real time?
emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B
2,942 Posts
Mine either. 50 bed community hospital.
AnnieOaklyRN, BSN, RN, EMT-P
2,587 Posts
I disagree! I have been a medic for going on 12 years and have done ACLS for just as long, and I feel there is not need for a two day ACLS course for the experienced provider. I agree that newer providers or those who do not use ACLS often should go for the full day or two days, but I definitely do not feel myself and other people who use it fairly frequently should have to sit through two days of class!!
I am guessing you must be fairly new at ACLS OP??
Annie
AdobeRN
1,294 Posts
I disagree - if you are experienced why waste your time to do the 2 day course - I think you should take what works for you - when I was working in the hospital I did the 2 day PALS certification course just because we rarely used those skills (I worked pedi Med-surg & our hospital did not have a Pedi ICU - if kids were in bad shape we transferred them out).
I no longer work in the hospital and work as a school nurse I don't ever use those skills (thankfully). PALS is not required for my job but I keep my certification current - I do take the 2 day course just to stay on top of things.
Ruby Vee, BSN
17 Articles; 14,036 Posts
Initial certification should be two days hands on, for sure. And your ACLS instructor's course should always be in person, even the recerts. The discussions about "How would you handle this guy with crummy attitude" or "How would you answer this question?' are valuable. But ACLS provider recerts -- one day is plenty.