Your worst nightmare

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I was tempted to call this story the 'no name story' so as to avoid being accused of misleading or creating 'click-bait.' But this time, I actually think what I'm about to tell you, has to be your worst nightmare. I also hope to give plenty of detail, so you get a clear picture.

It happened to a good friend, in the same A&E department, in a poor part of east London.

The hospital was in a poor neighborhood, and 2/3 of the patients first language was anything but English, many people were on government support, and the neighborhood was not the safest in daylight, let alone night time.

Regardless, myself and many fellow kiwis and aussies worked there as agency/temp nurses, especially night shifts, due to the regular work, as well as the large number of fellow antipodeans. On any given shift, half the staff were agency.

I'd spent 6 months working there, with a good friend Amber (not her real name) who was a very skilled, hard working nurse. She was manning the acute assessment unit - this unit ordered bloods/ecg's etc, so by the time a patient got to the doctor, they had something to work with.

So a 50yr old African man walks in with chest pain, and is sent to Amber. The pain is only on movement, no SOB, good colour, not cold/clammy/sweaty, in fact looks well. His ECG is normal, and he is in no pain when lying on the bed. The pain is left and right sided, and only returns when he moves ie got up from the bed.

It turns out he'd begun a weight training program the day before, and he'd been doing bench presses. His CK was a little elevated, but his tropinin normal (I can't remember which specific one, and I know they've got more accurate testing these days) but as the pain had begun the morning after the workout, and it was now evening, everything seemed ok.

The patient was a non-smoker, and had no previous medical hx of note.

Amber felt it unlikely to be cardiac, but of course ran the results and history past the doctor. The doctor signed the ECG to say he'd reviewed it, put a time and date, and said he could be a category 3 (which meant about a 2hr wait).

Anyway, the patient and his wife don't feel like waiting, especially as all the tests seem fine, and they ask Amber if he's okay to leave. She tell them they still need to see the doctor, as it's not her call to make.

The family wait 2hrs, only for the department to be swamped with some nasty traumas, and the doctor wouldn't be seeing them anytime soon. Amber kept checking on him, and he'd had no further pain (unless he stretched or moved a lot) and felt fine, and they decided to leave. They didn't sign a self-discharge form.

The next night, Amber and I are in resus when an ambulance blue lights in a patient, and Amber finds herself doing compressions on the man from the previous night.

'You said it wasn't his heart' screamed his wife at Amber, (which she hadn't, but you can understand the grief) while Amber had tears streaming down her face.

The man dies.

As an agency nurse, Amber didn't get support from management, so we discussed what to do. She decided to photocopy her notes, as well the ECG from the previous night.

She's called into a meeting with management the following day, and I go as her support person, and we're sitting in an office, and we hear the head doctor approaching with a bunch of big-wigs from the hospital, and we clearly hear him say 'she's done for, she messed up.'

Amber confronts him on this, and he doesn't have a reply, but they accuse her of not doing her job, and say the man did not get an ECG. We all go through the notes together and the ECG is missing. She tells them she did do one, and the doctor signed it, and gave his name, but they don't believe her.

'Well it's just as well I have a copy then don't I' she says, producing the copy of the ECG.

This action saved her. Saved her career, and saved her from a witch hunt.

She eventually was cleared of any wrong doing, although management were never confronted about the missing ECG, which would have helped them find someone to blame.

Anyway, that's one of the agency experiences that has taught me not to trust anyone.

Um, doing chest compressions on a patient you'd seen the night before, and who'd gone home, thinking his heart was ok, even though no one had given him the all-clear. Okay, if you can't get anything out of this, maybe some others will.

In your OP the patient's wife screamed at Amber: "You said it wasn't his heart." Did the nurse tell the patient that it wasn't his heart? If she did, it could have been construed by the patient that he had been given the "all clear." It appears to me from what was written in the OP that not enough testing/monitoring had been done to rule out a cardiac cause of the chest pain, and that the patient inferred after two hours or more in the A&E, with no abnormal test results up to that point, that serious problems were unlikely, and, according to your OP, the patient was not told by the staff of the risk that the chest pain could be cardiac related when he decided to leave.

Specializes in Medical Oncology, Alzheimer/dementia.

I work inpatient acute care, so I have a genuine question. Is it common for someone working in an ED type environment, with so many patients coming through, to keep notes on any particular patient?

Specializes in Care Coordination, MDS, med-surg, Peds.

Ok, Nursingaround's name should be foolingaroundwithyou all.

I don't see any lessons for today in the story and as a PP said, too much info is missing or inferred to really determine what occurred. I do know that in most ER's chest pain in anyone is taken very seriously and they are tested and followed until cardiac involvement is completely ruled out and really doubt they would be set out in the waiting room to just....wait. I would imagine them waiting in a bay in the ER hooked up to monitors instead.

I would not suggest anyone follow the "kinda" suggestion to copy medical records and keep them as that could land you in a lot of hot water. I know, as a young nurse, I kept my report sheets from the day before in my locker. As I learned more and more about HIPAA, etc., I stopped doing that as I did not want to set myself up for a major issue.

AND as a side note, unfortunately, when you listen to a heart, it does not say" lub dub lub dub gonna have an MI lub dub." which would be a nice warning, wouldn't it??

Specializes in Medical-Surgical/Float Pool/Stepdown.

At the risk of being even more unpopular on AN, if the OP had been a well liked and respected member of AN, do you not think a lot of these comments would not have been more respectful and supportive instead of just...well...attacking and dismissive. I'll get flamed but damn I think I just went back to school (take your pick...grade school, Jr high, High school) :down: We are all different and each have strengths and weaknesses yet we all have something valid to bring to the table. People can be very pleasantly surprising when given the chance...

Specializes in Peri-op/Sub-Acute ANP.

No, doing chest compressions on someone I met the night before prior to his leaving AMA is not anywhere close to my worst nightmare.

My worst nightmare is having to do chest compressions on someone who I have been caring for over a period of weeks or months, whose body has failed a little bit more every day during that time, but whose out-of-town next-of-kin wants "everything done". That is my nightmare.

My other nightmare is doing chest compressions for over an hour in a trauma bay on a child who was hit by a car and whose gray matter was spilling out of their head. We did compressions and full code until the patient's parents could get to the hospital so that they could be there for the child's last breath. That is my nightmare.

I could go on. I have lived through many nightmares in my time as a nurse. We all have. Your story is not unusual, nor is it extreme. It's the job.

Specializes in Pediatric Critical Care.
At the risk of being even more unpopular on AN, if the OP had been a well liked and respected member of AN, do you not think a lot of these comments would not have been more respectful and supportive instead of just...well...attacking and dismissive. I'll get flamed but damn I think I just went back to school (take your pick...grade school, Jr high, High school) :down: We are all different and each have strengths and weaknesses yet we all have something valid to bring to the table. People can be very pleasantly surprising when given the chance...

I second this. Seriously guys, take from the story what you want, leave what you don't. This isn't a federal case, its just an anecdote.

Specializes in MDS/ UR.

Have you thought of blogging?

How about an Instagram account or Pintrest.

I am sure there is some new fangled social media out there I am not up to date on.

My worst nightmares are the dentist and the IRS.

I still like you, even though you are not credible in the least. You're becoming a parody like NOADLS, except you irritate most of the long time posters.

Y'all take five minutes and think about the scenario he is presenting, and tell me what holes you come up with. I came up with half a dozen without even trying.

OP, I think you should start your own blog with your stories presented honestly as entertainment, since you can't seem to stop posting.

Specializes in Emergency/Cath Lab.
I second this. Seriously guys, take from the story what you want, leave what you don't. This isn't a federal case, its just an anecdote.

Or another fairy tale of his

Oh phew! I thought by the title this thread was about killer clowns, which is MY worst nightmare. My feet are always covered at night, just in case.

I was afraid to click.

wow, it's so easy to pick holes, especially when you weren't there.

This happened, I wasn't the one looking after the patient. I did go in with my friend to the horrible meeting. We did hear them talking about her in the hallway as they approached. She did do compression on a guy that had gone home the night before.

Of course she didn't tell them his heart was fine, but it's also understandable for a traumatized wife to feel he was given the all clear, as he had normal test results.

He wasn't put back in the waiting room, but he was kept in the assessment unit, but not on a monitor, or anything special.

His ECG was gone. Some other written notes were also missing/altered.

If you can't believe this, then that's your problem, not mine.

If you do believe me, and don't find this at all traumatic for a nurse, then maybe you're lacking in something - perhaps empathy.

I sear you lot have to be the most cynical, burnt out, miserable lot I've ever come across - but sadly, there's a few too many nurses like this out there.

Also, I feel most of you nurses act like you're the bloody doctor, with all your diagnosing and recommended treatments.

In this case all the typical procedures were followed - apart from the patient signing the self discharge form, the doctor was kept informed, the patient wasn't on a heart monitor.

This happened 10yr ago, so some of the details have faded, but I do remember quite clearly the trauma my friend went through.

So, to the the unbelievers out there, my story is true, but you won't accept that, because then that would mean having to have a closer look at yourself and your miserableness, and nobody likes to do that.

So, to the the unbelievers out there, my story is true, but you won't accept that, because then that would mean having to have a closer look at yourself and your miserableness, and nobody likes to do that.

I don't think I understand why you're so angry. It's very obvious that you are telling this story for a reaction. You've even stated that's what you want. Why does it matter to you if we believe these outlandish stories of yours? This one's highly over-dramatized.

"Your worst nightmare" implies something that induces fear and is so horrific as to be unreal. This story, while sad, is not particularly nightmarish. It's just another day in the ER here, except for the missing paperwork, which I find to be suspect. Is it normal for everyone to be incompetent in the A&E, so that they can't even file an ECG correctly?

And, sorry to disappoint, I am not miserable. I enjoy your crazy stories. I just wish you would present them honestly. I guess you get a kick out of seeing all the unwary scramble to reply.

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