write-up for insubordination because I turned my back to cry...

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I need your help!!!! I am being written up for insubordination on my 6th day of employment because when my employer was criticizing me for my work and telling me how much stress and how many errors I had made for him I started crying and turned my back to him on instinct. You know from experience that I have a tendency to cry, and I meant no harm by turning my back, but he took it as an affront. I have not been trained to work there, they showed me the clinical side that you already trained me to do in school, showed me the computer system and told me I would need to learn it, then cut me loose and expected me to know how to use the system like a pro by myself on the 3rd day. I thought I was cruising along using the forms I had figured out on my own and nobody said anything about it until today, other than that I needed to speed up. The girl that was supposed to train me was leaving me to my own devices and showing me to use forms that are no longer valid in our system only when I begged her to show me how to use the system. I don't know what to do. I am swamped, way in over my head and now I am suspended in lieu of termination tomorrow and facing insubordination write-up when I return on monday. what can I do? I'm so scared. This could end my nursing career before it even begins. Please help

Don't put them down. They don't exist.

And big hugs, honey.

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but i am a new grad to boot and this is my first nursing job. if i am fired for insubordination from here how am i ever gonna get another job? who wants an insubordinate new grad with no experience and an alleged bad attitude?! how can i fix this? can i even fix this at all?!

You can't cry "subordinately", so you can't really be insubordinate FOR crying.

Go bowling--- think of his nuts standing up down the lane.

Then start applying anywhere. :up:

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Specializes in A myriad of specialties.
but i am a new grad to boot and this is my first nursing job. if i am fired for insubordination from here how am i ever gonna get another job? who wants an insubordinate new grad with no experience and an alleged bad attitude?! how can i fix this? can i even fix this at all?!

I echo others' replies. QUIT. Don't record the place as a reference on upcoming applications. WHEN (not if) you are hired to a new emplyer, do NOT mention the 6-day employer to anyone at your new job. I say this because most applications ask you to record all previous employers and threaten termination if not all your information has been included. If you happen to mention this bad experience at hospital X to a new friend/coworker and he/she talks, it could get back to someone like the manager.

I wish you the best of luck!

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but i am a new grad to boot and this is my first nursing job. if i am fired for insubordination from here how am i ever gonna get another job? who wants an insubordinate new grad with no experience and an alleged bad attitude?! how can i fix this? can i even fix this at all?!

You were there for what, 6 days? Leave it from your resume, quit and pretend the job never even happened. You were not there long enough. Just learn from how that facility did things.

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I understand what you are going through, because I am also a new grad and just started working (orienting) as RN. What frustrates me most is how they run their facility. They do not in-doc you like non-nursing jobs I had previously. Basically, you learn as you go. No briefs of facility's background or what the working culture like, nada. Again, I don't know if this is normal for LTC. But during orientation, I try to stay on top of things. I ask applicable questions and seek for applicable answers. I might sometimes ask the same question but to different people just to see how each would respond. What I already learn is that some nurses despite each other and they do talk about each other. I hear it all, well, most of it on my third day. Some however are wonderful and not shy of helping me. What really frustrates me most right now is I do not have next my week's schedules up yet, so I am hunting down the management for it.

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FWIW, I bailed out during orientation from a LTC, where the DON put linen that fell on the floor back on the CLEAN linen cart, was known to show up at people's home's, after she unknowingly changed the schedule of the person she was ambushing- demanding they go to work (not in my lifetime that's gonna happen :down:), and the night nurse who was orienting me (after one shift on days- where I was figuring out BY NOON how to get to the local hospital and get an application in- I'd just moved to town- so took what I got) completely blew off a little lady's temp of 103- "oh, she's been doing that" :eek: - uh, really?

I could have gotten a $500 sign-on bonus (small town), which would have been nice since I moved with pocket change. I made it to the hospital later that day (first one) - got my application in and talked to the person interviewing- she said things looked good. I don't remember if I mentioned the 12 hours in hades or not....but it had the reputation back then that I would have gotten a pat on the shoulder, and the sympathetic "we understand" look... it was a pit. (new management later helped a LOT...but only new tiles gets that smell out).

Bottom line- nobody cared if I'd worked somewhere and quit during orientation. Non-issue. I have had one other job that I left off (they moved campuses, and the drive wasn't something I signed up for). NO issues with that either. I don't endorse leaving off employment (they can use it if they get wind of it, and ask about it- in which case, you just tell the truth). But some places are non-negotiable places to work. Nothing they do will make up for what they do wrong.

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Specializes in Medical-surgical.

Start applying for a new job now and don't ever put this job on a resume, you're not going to use them for a reference obviously and no employer is allowed to say that you were terminated, they are only allowed to confirm you time of employment, and once again don't even list this as a job, start over.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.

Don't mention this on ur CV. Run away fast from there, don't walk. Hole ur head high, tell them exactly what u think of their crappy corporation, then put it behind you. Re-vamp the CV without their details, forget it and carry on.

Yes this has happened to me - and very recently too! I was dumped from a job once after I set up all the computer system, worked hard, then the day I was let go, I worked half a shift then went to go to lunch, was told I wouldn't be needed anymore. Told them what I thought of them - that was a great day seeing their faces! Then I walked out the door, brushed myself down, walked over to the employemnt office, and told them I was available that day. They guy I saw said: 'Wow You don't let the moss grow on you!' I said what's the point? Get on with the job hunt, keep at it sweetie pie. You are worth more than this employer's anger and hatred. You would probably be burned out after a year.

Find an employer who will appreciate you for what you are! YOU ARE WORTH MORE THAN THEIR LOWLY OPINION OF YOU! Only you can make yourself shine for others at job interviews!

Good luck, I know you will be OK.

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They can't tell a prospective employer you were fired for "insubordination." A good attorney would have a field day with that. The most they usually say is date of hire, date of termination and if you are eligible for rehire.

Don't torment yourself anymore tonight with "what might happen." You can't change it at this point. Tomorrow, start working on applying for another job. Take control; don't be a victim.

Some situations aren't worth fixing, and this sure sounds like one. Is this an LTC?

FWIW, if I had been in your shoes, I probably would have cried, too. It's hard when you're young and inexperienced. You want things to work out.

the bold is not necessarily true, as has been pointed out here at AN more than once.....many states it is perfectly OK to tell anything they want as long as it is true...

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In Texas most employers have a 90 day probationary period, you can quit or they can terminate you without any notice in that 90 day period. I started a job and worked 3 weeks into it and HATED it, so I quit. Don't list it on any resume or applications, just quit and start over.

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Specializes in Emergency/Cath Lab.

I'm not going to make friends with this.

You need to work on taking criticism better. You are going to be criticized no matter what job you have. Yeah you had a **** orientation and that makes it hard on you too, but is it really necessary?

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Specializes in UR/PA, Hematology/Oncology, Med Surg, Psych.
I'm not going to make friends with this.

You need to work on taking criticism better. You are going to be criticized no matter what job you have. Yeah you had a **** orientation and that makes it hard on you too, but is it really necessary?

No need to make friends, but a little understanding of people could help. A new grad in her first job being treated like total poop?? Don't blame her for crying, sounds like she's been thrown to the wolves without any history in the field to help her confidence level.

To the OP, put this nightmare behind you. Sounds like a very toxic place to be for even an experienced nurse. Get out now, quit right away. Don't let this place beat you up anymore.

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