Why do minorities have more respect for nurses?

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I have been a nurse for over 20 years. I currently work in Miami. The hospital is in an area where we get a lot of Cuban and Haitian patients. I have been at this hospital for 6 years. The patients and families we get are so very respectful of nurses. I know this is a sensitive subject but I'm just stating my experience. I am white myself and receive far less respect from white pts and families like I do minorities. Before working in this area of Miami, I worked in white areas of south Florida like Orlando,Del Rey, Boca Raton and West Palm beach. It was a nightmare working there as the pts and families(mostly white)had Zero respect for the nurses. I took more verbal abuse working in white areas of Florida than when i was in the Army! Why are minorities more respectful of nurses than white people? Overall from my experience white people simply don't respect nurses like minorities!

With all due respect although the NCLEX was hard, it wasn't that hard for me actually and I would have been surprised if I didn't pass. Actually I'm surprised many of my classmates passed. With that said, the bar is one of the most intense exams period.

California administers what is widely considered one of the nation's most difficult bar examinations twice each year, in February and July. The California Bar Examination consists of 18 hours of examination time, spread out over three days. The only state with a longer exam is Louisiana, at 21 hours. California's exam is administered in the following manner:

  • 1st day (Tuesday): 3 essay questions (9 am – 12 pm); 1 performance test (2 pm – 5 pm)
  • 2nd day (Wednesday): 100 Multistate Bar Examination (MBE) questions (9 am – 12 pm); 100 MBE questions (2 pm – 5 pm)
  • 3rd day (Thursday): 3 essay questions (9 am – 12 pm); 1 performance test (2 pm – 5 pm)

The exam currently tests 17 different subject areas:

  • Constitutional Law (Federal)
  • Contracts (Common Law and Uniform Commercial Code)
  • Criminal Law and Procedure
  • Evidence (Federal Rules of Evidence and the California Evidence Code)
  • Real Property
  • Torts
  • Wills (California law)
  • Trusts
  • Civil Procedure (Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and the California Code of Civil Procedure)
  • Community Property (California law)
  • Professional Responsibility (California law and the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct)
  • Business Associations (Corporations, Agency, all forms of Partnerships, and Limited Liability Entities)
  • Remedies

The essay section of the exam accounts for 39 percent of the total score. Applicants sitting for the California Bar Examination do not know which of the 17 subjects will be tested on the essay portion of the examination. In recent years, it has become common for the exam to feature one or more "crossover" questions, which test applicants in multiple subjects. Examples of past-tested essays with sample answers are available on the California State Bar's website atPast Exams.

California-specific legal knowledge is required only for Evidence, Civil Procedure, Wills, Community Property, and Professional Responsibility; for the other topics, either general common law ("bar exam law") or the federal laws apply. Beginning in July 2007, applicants may be tested on the California Evidence Code and the California Code of Civil Procedure in the essay portion of the exam in addition to the Federal Rules of Evidence and Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

Applicants traditionally wrote essay responses with using pen and paper or typed them on a typewriter. However, since 2000, applicants have had the option of using SofTest software to type those portions on a laptop computers.

The Multistate Bar Examination (MBE) portion of the exam is a nationally-administered, 200-question multiple-choice exam. As of February 2007, only 190 questions are scored, and the other 10 are unscored experimental questions used to gauge their appropriateness for future exams. The MBE covers only the topics of contracts (including sales of goods under Article 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code), real property, torts, constitutional law, criminal law and procedure, and the Federal Rules of Evidence. While the essay section of the exam may test one or more of these areas as well, the MBE section is dedicated to these subjects. The MBE counts for 35 percent of the total score in California.

The performance test portion of the exam is designed to test practical lawyering skills by presenting applicants with simulations of actual legal tasks. This section counts for 26 percent of the total score. The performance exam is a "closed universe" setting, meaning that the only substantive information the applicant needs to know is provided during the exam. Even if cases and statutes are provided, they are often different from the real law in the area at issue, so that applicants who studied that area of law in law school will have no special advantage. Each performance test is worth as many points as two regular essays.

You just typed out a ridiculous amount of information for absolutely no reason. No one on here is questioning the bar exam. And if you read further past my first post, you'll see that my issue was NOT whether or not her test was harder, but the fact that she was so incredibly rude about it. Good god, someone was just dying to stir the pot on this thread.

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Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.

I agree, that was a ridiculous amount of irrelevant information. It seems someone just REALLY wants people to know that they know a lot about the bar exam?

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Specializes in Acute Care Pediatrics.

Wow, you guys get respect??

When I get a patient's family that is *NICE* to me, let alone respectful of my work - it's like a GOOD day.

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Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
You just typed out a ridiculous amount of information for absolutely no reason. No one on here is questioning the bar exam. And if you read further past my first post, you'll see that my issue was NOT whether or not her test was harder, but the fact that she was so incredibly rude about it. Good god, someone was just dying to stir the pot on this thread.

I thought it was interesting to see what the bar exam entails. It didn't seem like pot stirring to me.

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Specializes in MCH,NICU,NNsy,Educ,Village Nursing.

This is one reason I choose to work at a clinic for the medically underserved vs. the "normal" health care facility. I, too, have found that people who are well educated and of the upper financial bracket are a mix...some expect to be treated as royalty, others are kind. Still, my preference are those who are really in need, on many different levels. That gives me the opportunity to advocate, to empower, to care for the whole person on a level that I can't necessarily do in the general population.

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After reading each post in this thread, I have learned.....

--Under-educated whites and over-educated whites are the best/worst patients.

--Under-educated non-whites and over-educated non-whites are the best/worst patients.

--Wealthy/underprivileged patients of any background are the best/worst patients.

--People who have immigrated from other countries are more respectful/more entitled-feeling than native-born patients.

--The NCLEX is a hard/easy test, and the bar exam is a hard/easy test.

That about covers it, I think! :D

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Specializes in Cardiology, Cardiothoracic Surgical.

My experience has depended on the type of patient that I was seeing. Cardiac and ortho patients tended to be pretty pleasant, dialysis/renal/med surg not so much. ER, a mixed bag.

You couldn't pay me a million dollars to work on a med/surg floor!

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With all due respect although the NCLEX was hard, it wasn't that hard for me actually and I would have been surprised if I didn't pass. Actually I'm surprised many of my classmates passed. With that said, the bar is one of the most intense exams period.

California administers what is widely considered one of the nation's most difficult bar examinations twice each year, in February and July. The California Bar Examination consists of 18 hours of examination time, spread out over three days. The only state with a longer exam is Louisiana, at 21 hours. California's exam is administered in the following manner:

  • 1st day (Tuesday): 3 essay questions (9 am – 12 pm); 1 performance test (2 pm – 5 pm)
  • 2nd day (Wednesday): 100 Multistate Bar Examination (MBE) questions (9 am – 12 pm); 100 MBE questions (2 pm – 5 pm)
  • 3rd day (Thursday): 3 essay questions (9 am – 12 pm); 1 performance test (2 pm – 5 pm)

The exam currently tests 17 different subject areas:

  • Constitutional Law (Federal)
  • Contracts (Common Law and Uniform Commercial Code)
  • Criminal Law and Procedure
  • Evidence (Federal Rules of Evidence and the California Evidence Code)
  • Real Property
  • Torts
  • Wills (California law)
  • Trusts
  • Civil Procedure (Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and the California Code of Civil Procedure)
  • Community Property (California law)
  • Professional Responsibility (California law and the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct)
  • Business Associations (Corporations, Agency, all forms of Partnerships, and Limited Liability Entities)
  • Remedies

The essay section of the exam accounts for 39 percent of the total score. Applicants sitting for the California Bar Examination do not know which of the 17 subjects will be tested on the essay portion of the examination. In recent years, it has become common for the exam to feature one or more "crossover" questions, which test applicants in multiple subjects. Examples of past-tested essays with sample answers are available on the California State Bar's website atPast Exams.

California-specific legal knowledge is required only for Evidence, Civil Procedure, Wills, Community Property, and Professional Responsibility; for the other topics, either general common law ("bar exam law") or the federal laws apply. Beginning in July 2007, applicants may be tested on the California Evidence Code and the California Code of Civil Procedure in the essay portion of the exam in addition to the Federal Rules of Evidence and Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

Applicants traditionally wrote essay responses with using pen and paper or typed them on a typewriter. However, since 2000, applicants have had the option of using SofTest software to type those portions on a laptop computers.

The Multistate Bar Examination (MBE) portion of the exam is a nationally-administered, 200-question multiple-choice exam. As of February 2007, only 190 questions are scored, and the other 10 are unscored experimental questions used to gauge their appropriateness for future exams. The MBE covers only the topics of contracts (including sales of goods under Article 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code), real property, torts, constitutional law, criminal law and procedure, and the Federal Rules of Evidence. While the essay section of the exam may test one or more of these areas as well, the MBE section is dedicated to these subjects. The MBE counts for 35 percent of the total score in California.

The performance test portion of the exam is designed to test practical lawyering skills by presenting applicants with simulations of actual legal tasks. This section counts for 26 percent of the total score. The performance exam is a "closed universe" setting, meaning that the only substantive information the applicant needs to know is provided during the exam. Even if cases and statutes are provided, they are often different from the real law in the area at issue, so that applicants who studied that area of law in law school will have no special advantage. Each performance test is worth as many points as two regular essays.

Girl bye. :banghead:

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Specializes in ER.

I wonder what the reaction of people would be to a thread titled "Minorities make the Worst patients!"

Accusations of racism no doubt.

And, might I mention again that S Florida is not mainstream America. The cultural mix there is rather unique. Your well off sector consists of a good percentage of pushy New Yorkers.

The whole premise of this thread is offensive.

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I wonder what the reaction of people would be to a thread titled "Minorities make the Worst patients!"

Accusations of racism no doubt.

And, might I mention again that S Florida is not mainstream America. The cultural mix there is rather unique. Your well off sector consists of a good percentage of pushy New Yorkers.

The whole premise of this thread is offensive.

As is "pushy New Yorkers'. :cheeky:

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Well apparently we're all (or most of us) are just very offended today! I'll admit, I probably need a chill pill. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed access to the med cart yet.

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Well apparently we're all (or most of us) are just very offended today! I'll admit, I probably need a chill pill. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed access to the med cart yet.

Hahahahahaha!

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