Why hasn’t pay increased? Hazard pay, etc.?

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Why hasn’t pay increased? Hazard pay, etc.? Especially considering that multiple hospitals lack supplies for PPE and we are frontline workers.

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3 hours ago, Rose_Queen said:

Posted in another thread, but does fit in here as well. Let's keep it to talking about hazard pay and not physician vs nurse. Thank you!

Those actively seeking to bring down our profession should be handled properly, and removed from this site. student doctor.net has no qualms about disrespecting everyone outside of the physician realm, and it's often encouraged. We should learn to stick up for and take care of our own better.

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27 minutes ago, murseman24 said:

Those actively seeking to bring down our profession should be handled properly, and removed from this site. student doctor.net has no qualms about disrespecting everyone outside of the physician realm, and it's often encouraged. We should learn to stick up for and take care of our own better.

bUt nUrSeS sHoULd bE mArTyRs

and apparent lie down and take all manner of abuse ?

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20 hours ago, dinah77 said:

None of us signed up for a job that would not provide us adequate protection. I bet you're one of those people who vote GOP because you are sure that one day you will most definitely get your own riches and be part of the 1%, right?

And when that day comes, you don't want to have to pay more taxes

I hate to break it to you, but you are just one of the working class just like all of us.

You are at any given time 3-6 months away from one disaster that renders you homeless.

You will NEVER be 3-6 months away from being a billionaire. Your life is disposable to the higher-ups and 1%. Full stop

You are one of the nameless, faceless automatons they will never have to know or care about

You do not live near them- your children go to different schools than their childen.

They will never have an awkward moment with you at social events because THEY do not mingle with US

They will never have to look you in the eye and explain why they weren't willing to pay you more right now or fight for adequate protection.

So as long as I am on the front lines of this, as long as I am risking bringing home covid-19 to my husband and my two children, as long as I am risking my own life and maybe leaing my two kiddos without a mom *** STRAIGHT I'M GONNA ASK FOR MORE MONEY

We need to milk the *** for every last dime

Jesus this was beautiful haha. I need to save this.

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An increase in pay would ease the minds of many nurses working without proper ppe whose work sponsored healthplans include copays as large as $3000 person $6000 a family! If we are expected to give care unprotected perhaps our hospitals could provide a bonus to cover our copay if we do get sick. As it is now the hospitals stand to benefit if we do get ill as most plans require workers to receive care from the hospital system they work in and most nurses will actually pay the bills they owe!

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3 hours ago, carti said:

Jesus this was beautiful haha. I need to save this.

Feel free to repost- the number of nurses who’ve drank the capitalistic kool aid is gross

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Our hospital offers incentive pay to pick right now. Extra 15 an hour, plus if one goes into overtime, then more. I guess one can call it hazard pay.I looked today, and the only openings are on the COVID-19 floor, so no, thank you.

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money is plentiful; PPE is not. Hazard pay sounds reasonable to me. Thank you nurses for being in the frontline

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On 3/25/2020 at 2:40 AM, nznurse93 said:

I think this is very selfish. Thousands of people have lost their jobs. People are in financial crisis. The economy is crashing. Asking for more money for doing your job, which you chose, you know the risk we are at every single day, Is just rude!

I think its rude to not take into account the fact that HCWs are not provided proper PPE and NEVER signed up for that. These working conditions are utterly unacceptable and were completely preventable. This is the attitude that makes me want to leave nursing altogether. I'm so sick of this martyr mentality. Because then administration (and the public) expects it and cuts our resources to next to nothing, KNOWING we will just bend over. For crying out loud stand up for your profession and demand better.

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On 3/25/2020 at 7:23 AM, gcupid said:

With all due respect, some of us were willing to take those risks because we knew that there would be some type of minimum protective equipment provided in order to safely do our jobs.

I've come across some old school nurses that practiced when there wasn't gloves to provide care except for sterile procedures. They would wipe butts and snot off of peoples faces like patient's were new born babies. I'm sorry, if there were no gloves available, I would not be wiping anyone's orifice or changing these infected wounds or deep suctioning patients or holding basins filled with vomit, etc.

Also, "thousands have lost their jobs," I'm pretty sure family that have a nurse in it will be expecting the nurses to pick up the slack to maintain bills while at the same time having the expectation that the nurse in their family doesn't bring them back a deadly virus.

This way of thinking to me tells me why nurses aren't commanding high salaries and better working conditions.

Yes! I make $28 an hour and soon when my husband's store closes, I am expected to be the sole provider. So while I'm grateful for a job, how ignorant to assume we can all maintain our households on just our salary. It may get so severe that we will have to move back into my MILs if I get sick and can't work. We nurses are hurting financially too.

I've already stated my opinion on hazard pay before. I understand it truly may not be feasible for many places. So I'm not expecting it. But to be that rude to someone just ASKING about it? Sheesh.

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On 3/25/2020 at 7:40 AM, Tegridy said:

It’s a forum and we can all state our opinions or suggestions. Hence why this topic was made. If you don’t like it then debate it or ignore it?

I don’t think what we all do is deserving of hazard pay. We don’t put our lives on the line as military and police do on a daily basis. Yes it’s a little more dangerous than prior to COVID but we aren’t disarming bombs or walking into a flay or bullets. Nurses wanting hazard pay just makes the profession look like a bunch of cry babies

WOW!. How incredibly ignorant and insensitive to the healthcare workers who HAVE already died bc of the HAZARDOUS conditions. And there will be more to come.

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On 3/25/2020 at 4:13 PM, nznurse93 said:

I don’t know what your rant about old school nurses and gloves has to do with me.

The world is short of medical supplies and PPE, which is far more important than an extra dollar or two.

we are in a crisis. There is no money. You time should be focus on advocating for our safety not Trying to profit from people misfortune.

How is trying to keep your head above water when your spouse is off work, "profiting?" And how about when you are off work to heal bc you inevitably caught the virus DUE to hazardous conditions THEY put us in? Yeah, profiting. OK.

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On 3/26/2020 at 9:24 PM, Tegridy said:

You don’t think there are doctors making <100 an hour? Look at academic salaries at big name places. Or New York fam med docs.

I'm not saying you can’t ask for 100/hr but just don’t expect even now the normal pay of an RN to be 200k per year. That’s silly

If you want armor for battle ask for armor not more pay.

I feel like you are being deliberately obtuse, now. 1) nurses are literally all over the news telling us about the lack of PPE. What more are they supposed to do? They're already stretched to their limits working in insane conditions, but they are still using their free time telling our governors and the president that they need PPE.

2) The PPE doesn't EXIST. We can demand all we want. We don't have it, yet. They are working on it now. Until then nurses will keep getting sick. It's not acceptable, but we need an income. So please tell me your solution, bc I don't see what you are contributing here.

I literally lost my relationship with my brother over the topic of PPE last night. This is THAT important to me. I am so highly emotional with all this. I can only imagine how I would be feeling if it were me in the hospital or nursing home setting right now.

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