Why hasn’t pay increased? Hazard pay, etc.?

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Tegridy

Tegridy

Specializes in Former NP now Internal medicine PGY-3. 491 Posts

9 hours ago, gcupid said:

This forum does not give you authority to order.

I Will speak out against whatever I desire to speak out against. Save those orders for your work environment in which you have those privileges.

LOL calm down justice warrior these are opinions not orders

Feel free to ask your superior for hazard pay and we can see how that goes.

gcupid

gcupid

511 Posts

9 hours ago, Tegridy said:

LOL calm down justice warrior these are opinions not orders

Feel free to ask your superior for hazard pay and we can see how that goes.

Feel free to stop offering (ordering) suggestions. Lets see how that goes.

Tegridy

Tegridy

Specializes in Former NP now Internal medicine PGY-3. 491 Posts

9 hours ago, gcupid said:

Feel free to stop offering (ordering) suggestions. Lets see how that goes.

It’s a forum and we can all state our opinions or suggestions. Hence why this topic was made. If you don’t like it then debate it or ignore it?

I don’t think what we all do is deserving of hazard pay. We don’t put our lives on the line as military and police do on a daily basis. Yes it’s a little more dangerous than prior to COVID but we aren’t disarming bombs or walking into a flay or bullets. Nurses wanting hazard pay just makes the profession look like a bunch of cry babies

allnurses Admin Team

Has 50 years experience. 292 Posts

Members are allowed their opinions as long as they do not violate TOS.

Please do not argue back and forth. As we all know, this never ever ends well.

Just be respectful. Unite, don't divide.

Hoosier_RN, MSN

Specializes in dialysis. Has 29 years experience. 3,587 Posts

One dialysis company is offering an additional diff pay on top of regular pays and diffs. Not sure about the others. Employees are grateful, but were not expecting or demanding it.

Instead of arguing, let's try some kindness. Everyone is so tense with the situation, arguing and dissent doesn't help.

I will state that 20+ years ago in nursing school, we talked about less than optimal situations, like this. So I was aware that this could happen. While in the military, I was in Haiti. We didn't always have enough proper gear, so you get creative and use what you have, and improvise for the rest. We are currently at a crisis with PPE, but arguing with each other won't fix it.

Prayers for each and every member's health and safety

Jedrnurse, BSN, RN

Specializes in school nurse. Has 30 years experience. 2,776 Posts

2 hours ago, gcupid said:

Okay, well where's some of this magical bail out money that seems to come when corporations are failing? Who is fighting for the bedside individuals who are putting themselves at risk? You guys people have died from this virus.

Unemployed people should come before extra pay. Hopefully, a lot of the soon-to-pass bill will bolster state unemployment funds as well as send direct payments to people.

I also hope that the oversight is strong enough to prevent this money from funding CEO bonuses and stock buybacks, things that happened in 2007/2008.

bluescrubs, ADN, ASN, RN

Specializes in Corrections, Surgical. Has 2 years experience. 280 Posts

6 hours ago, adventure_rn said:

There really isn't much incentive for hospitals to offer hazard pay right now. Even if staffing is tight, most people won't quit their jobs and lose their employer-sponsored health insurance mid-pandemic, especially when all of the other nursing jobs that are currently hiring would put you in the line of fire for COVID.

Hospitals with unions might be able to swing it, but I'm sure it would be a crazy time for negotiations since so many regions are in crisis mode.

It would be nice if hospitals offered hazard pay, but I'm sure they're also hurting financially given all of the new measures they're having to put into place. Hospitals' greatest revenue tends to come from surgeries and invasive procedures; many are losing a lot of anticipated revenue because they've cancelled their non-emergent surgeries. I'm sure the logistics of implementing all of these no protocols aren't cheap, either. Even if hospitals wanted to offer a hazard diff, they might not be able to afford it.

If people do get hazard pay, I doubt it would be more than $1 per hour, maybe $2. In the military, the hazard pay for soldiers in armed combat is only $150 a month (which is about $1/hour if you work 40 hour work weeks), and that job is far more hazardous than what we do. IMO, getting an extra $12 per shift wouldn't make the risks any more 'worth my while.'

Honestly, I'd rather have the hospital use that revenue to procure more PPE than get a couple of extra bucks per shift.

I read that target increased their workers pay an extra $2. I think it's wonderful they afford to do this. I'm sure people buying all the bleach, toilet paper, can goods, etc helped them with being able to afford the pay raise. I'm thankful these people at the grocery store are coming to work everyday knowing the risk. I believe the grocery stores that can afford to do so should give them a little something extra. I haven't started working yet but I know working now is a risk I'm willing to take. The only thing that scares me is the PPE, I hear places are firing nurses that bring their own mask?!?!? Does anyone know the reason for this?

Hoosier_RN, MSN

Specializes in dialysis. Has 29 years experience. 3,587 Posts

4 hours ago, bluescrubs said:

The only thing that scares me is the PPE, I hear places are firing nurses that bring their own mask?!?!? Does anyone know the reason for this?

Because most are not safe, but better than nothing. They don't want people being falsely assured that they are protected

cubby777

cubby777

80 Posts

20 hours ago, gcupid said:

Why hasn’t pay increased? Hazard pay, etc.? Especially considering that multiple hospitals lack supplies for PPE and we are frontline workers.

Excellent idea! Very deserving of hazard pay! Unions should be pushing for this but other than giving good speeches, they do little to help nurses in the trenches.

cubby777

cubby777

80 Posts

9 hours ago, Tegridy said:

It’s a forum and we can all state our opinions or suggestions. Hence why this topic was made. If you don’t like it then debate it or ignore it?

I don’t think what we all do is deserving of hazard pay. We don’t put our lives on the line as military and police do on a daily basis. Yes it’s a little more dangerous than prior to COVID but we aren’t disarming bombs or walking into a flay or bullets. Nurses wanting hazard pay just makes the profession look like a bunch of cry babies

Ridiculous comment! OF COURSE, we are deserving of hazard pay! Sending a nurse into a patient's room with no adequate PPE is like sending a soldier onto the front lines with no ammunition!

EDNURSE20

EDNURSE20, BSN

Specializes in ED, med-surg, peri op. Has 5 years experience. 451 Posts

8 hours ago, gcupid said:

This way of thinking to me tells me why nurses aren't commanding high salaries and better working conditions.

I don’t know what your rant about old school nurses and gloves has to do with me.

The world is short of medical supplies and PPE, which is far more important than an extra dollar or two.

we are in a crisis. There is no money. You time should be focus on advocating for our safety not Trying to profit from people misfortune.

cubby777

cubby777

80 Posts

13 hours ago, Jedrnurse said:

I bet the fact that the economy is crashing may be one of the reasons.

The economy isn't crashing! Stock market up over 2000 points yesterday, 500 points today!