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4 hours ago, Tweety said:

It means what it says: that Trump did not accept the endorsement of the KKK as Muno implied. Was I not clear?

You were clear up until the last sentence.  It was missing a few commas which made it confusing to read, and it didn't seem to go with what you said before it.  However, I believe that actions speak louder than words and his unwillingness to call out the Proud Boys and other Neo-Nazi groups speaks louder than any PR sentence released by his staff.  And Trump isn't in the past.  We don't know if the next nominee will run with his blessing and if that will make a difference in the results.  I think his influence is waning but it doesn't take much of the total votes casted to affect the results.  That's why he is still a menace to society.

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4 hours ago, Tweety said:

Subee stated: "And here we are, suffering the consequences that were completely predicted before his election...especially the constitutional crisis part."   Which I presumed was a generic "we" rather than minority specific.

But since you asked, his tax cuts for one.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/11/business/trump-tax-cuts-white-americans.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mayrarodriguezvalladares/2020/10/01/the-trump-presidency-has-failed-the-vast-majority-of-latinos-and-blacks/?sh=57e1f72658f1

HIs ban on transgendered persons from the military hurt those serving that were worthy of promotion and didn't get it for another.

But I suppose as was noted that one can always find a link to support your ideas.

 Moot point at this point.   In fact Trump is s moot point. 

 

 

I was asking in the context of the assertions that Trump is a racist.

I don't think that you believe tax cuts were made for the purpose of benefitting white people and not others.  You can of course correct me if I'm wrong on that.

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Not everyone can comprehend the effects of systemic racism. That's part of the reason some people are so easily manipulated into emotionally charged protests about CRT, and lies about it's presence in public elementary schools. 

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/rbgs-impact-on-civil-rights/blacktaxpayersmatter/

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Decreased progressivity and economic inequality in tax systems are racialized. Specifically, they generate racialized outcomes, which distort access to economic opportunities. Neither education nor hard work can overcome the racial wealth gap. Unemployed white households hold more wealth than fully employed Black households, and the average wealth of college-educated Black households is less than that of high school drop-out white households. Tax policies exacerbate this racial wealth gap by shifting tax burdens from those who are privileged with wealth (white taxpayers) to those who are systemically impoverished (Black taxpayers).

Tax policy that intentionally favors and rewards wealth negatively impacts the working poor. The collateral negative impact on poor whites is apparently acceptable to governing republican legislators, and their voters. 

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/author-talks-dorothy-a-brown-on-the-whiteness-of-wealth

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3 hours ago, Beerman said:

I was asking in the context of the assertions that Trump is a racist.

I don't think that you believe tax cuts were made for the purpose of benefitting white people and not others.  You can of course correct me if I'm wrong on that.

As you might remember I was against the tax cuts, but I don't think they were made with racist intent. My objections were I thought we needed the revenue and that it benefited wealthy people too much.   I was attempting to answer your question about how his policies affected people of color.

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Fox News--  Fox's main channel ---has decided not to broadcast the Jan.6th committee hearings ---could that be because their Hosts had contacted Trump + Meadows trying to get him to tell protestors go home  that day so their involvement will be displayed for the world to see/hear?  HIDING INFO from their main viewers or loss of ad revenue????   Prime time broadcast on Fox Business and their other platforms.  Selective facts "not shown during hearings" will be spouted by Tucker and Hannity per ads seen today.  By not informing their viewers of a significant event affecting U.S democracy, they are providing a disservice.  Worse thing ever is creation of "alternate facts" narritive spouted by Kelly Ann Conway and echoed by this network.

Rival broadcast networks plan to interrupt their primetime lineups for the hearings. CBS and ABC will air the proceedings live; NBC will offer live coverage on its cable news channel, MSNBC, and its streaming service, Peacock, and special coverage on its network channel. CNN covering all hearings live.

6/6/22: Fox Press release:

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Chief Political Anchor Bret Baier and Executive Editor of “The Story” Martha MacCallum to Co-Anchor Primetime Coverage on FOX Business Network Starting at 8 PM/ET with Live Coverage Offered to FOX Broadcast Affiliates Across Any of Their Platforms 

Fox News Triggers Meltdown After Decision to not cover of Jan. 6 Hearings

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Fox News is receiving new outrage for deciding not to air the Jan. 6 Committee hearings in their entirety.

In a press release Monday, the network announced it will “present live coverage of the Select Committee hearing to investigate the January 6th attack on the United States Capitol on Thursday, June 9th across FOX News Media platforms.”

“Special coverage kicks off at 8 PM/ET with chief political anchor and Special Report’s Bret Baier along with executive editor of The Story Martha MacCallum co-anchoring live from Washington, DC on FOX Business Network. The coverage will be offered to FOX Broadcast affiliates across any of their platforms as well as live streamed on FOX News Digital for free, without authentication and live streamed on FOX Nation,” it added.

“FOX News @ Night” Anchor and Chief Legal Correspondent Shannon Bream to Join Baier and MacCallum for Live Two-Hour Reaction Special on FOX News Channel at 11 PM/ET, Pre-Empting “Gutfeld!” 

FOX News Digital to Present Live Coverage Without Authentication (?????? its Congress presenting to the public!! Karen)  and FOX Nation to Stream Hearings Live

 

Yahoo:  Schumer calls Fox News 'cowardly' for not airing Jan. 6 hearing

Newsweek: Fox News Not Airing Jan. 6 Hearing Is 'Suppression of Truth': Ex-FBI Head

Washington Post: Of course Fox News isn’t airing the Jan. 6 committee hearings

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The Republican Party made a decision early last year that it would rather use the attack at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, as a cudgel against Democrats than engage in the sort of self-reflection that an honest assessment of the causes of that riot might demand. It was easier — easy, even — simply to cast any probe of the attack as partisan and let slide Donald Trump’s insistences that the real problem was the 2020 election than to take on the former president and his enthusiastic base of support....

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Fox News 6/7/22 : Republicans launch counter-programming to Jan. 6 Committee hearings with Stefanik, Scalise, Jordan media event

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FIRST ON FOX: House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik is leading an event with House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, and Reps. Jim Banks and Jim Jordan as Republicans prepare their counter-programming for the Jan. 6 Committee's first televised hearings.

The 10:45 a.m. press conference Wednesday is set to be a show of unity by two high-profile members of GOP leadership and two of the Republicans House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., rejected from the committee. Jordan himself was subpoenaed by the committee, along with a handful of other members including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif. ....

Mediaite:
Fox News is Betraying Its Own Viewers — and Selling Out the Country —

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With Disgraceful Decision Not to Air Jan. 6 Hearing

...It also goes without saying that these hearings will be incredibly embarrassing for Fox News, given network hosts privately urged then-President Donald Trump to stop the attack, while absolving him of responsibility for it on air.

But in terms of journalistic standards, or even from a desire to keep an audience well-informed, the decision is nothing short of disgraceful — and damaging to the nation.

The decision is as clear as evidence to date that Fox News has far less interest in a well-informed audience and instead prioritizes profits over principles (though long time critics will guffaw at the notion that there have been any journalistic principles in play in Fox News prime time for at least five years.)

Now to be fair, Fox News is not ignoring the proceedings entirely. The network made the odd decision to move its top news anchors, Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, over to Fox Business to cover the hearings. They will also be streamed on Fox Nation and FoxNews.com. They are also providing the feed to any local Fox broadcast affiliates who choose to take it.

 

 

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18 hours ago, MunoRN said:

He referred to those attending a white supremacist rally as being "very fine people".  

He referred to people who were there that were either protesting to keep the monuments up and the people who were protesting for them to remain. These people were of various races, including black that wanted them to stay up. Very fine people on both sides inactingvtheir constitutional right to peaceful protest. 

Again, he called out and codemed all form of white supremacy and neo nazis. Like word for word. 

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9 hours ago, subee said:

You were clear up until the last sentence.  It was missing a few commas which made it confusing to read, and it didn't seem to go with what you said before it.  However, I believe that actions speak louder than words and his unwillingness to call out the Proud Boys and other Neo-Nazi groups speaks louder than any PR sentence released by his staff.  And Trump isn't in the past.  We don't know if the next nominee will run with his blessing and if that will make a difference in the results.  I think his influence is waning but it doesn't take much of the total votes casted to affect the results.  That's why he is still a menace to society.

Proud Boys? Since we live links, please read this. The leader is Afro-Cuban. Did you know this? 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/15/no-the-proud-boys-are-not-white-supremacists/

So he denounced and condemned  that very day, "white supremacist" and "Neo-Nazi"   what other "Neo-Nazi" groups do you speak of? Do you have a name? 

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On 6/6/2022 at 2:20 PM, subee said:

Definitely Trump favors Mussolini over Hitler.  Hitler was smarter then both but Mussolini loved the military parades as much as Trump.   It's definitely a worthwhile comparison.

Comparing Trump to Hitler is disrespectful to the victims of the holocaust and Jewish people. 

Like anyone suffered like that under Trump. Ridiculous! 

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1 hour ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Fox News--  Fox's main channel ---has decided not to broadcast the Jan.6th committee hearings ---could that be because their Hosts had contacted Trump + Meadows trying to get him to tell protestors go home  that day so their involvement will be displayed for the world to see/hear?  HIDING INFO from their main viewers or loss of ad revenue????   Prime time broadcast on Fox Business and their other platforms.  Selective facts "not shown during hearings" will be spouted by Tucker and Hannity per ads seen today.  By not informing their viewers of a significant event affecting U.S democracy, they are providing a disservice.  Worse thing ever is creation of "alternate facts" narritive spouted by Kelly Ann Conway and echoed by this network.

Rival broadcast networks plan to interrupt their primetime lineups for the hearings. CBS and ABC will air the proceedings live; NBC will offer live coverage on its cable news channel, MSNBC, and its streaming service, Peacock, and special coverage on its network channel. CNN covering all hearings live.

6/6/22: Fox Press release:

Fox News Triggers Meltdown After Decision to not cover of Jan. 6 Hearings

Yahoo:  Schumer calls Fox News 'cowardly' for not airing Jan. 6 hearing

Newsweek: Fox News Not Airing Jan. 6 Hearing Is 'Suppression of Truth': Ex-FBI Head

Washington Post: Of course Fox News isn’t airing the Jan. 6 committee hearings

 

Fox News 6/7/22 : Republicans launch counter-programming to Jan. 6 Committee hearings with Stefanik, Scalise, Jordan media event

Mediaite:
Fox News is Betraying Its Own Viewers — and Selling Out the Country —

 

How nice that Mediaite has concern for Fox Viewers.  I'm sure though,  it's on enough other outlets that Fox viewers will watch or not watch no matter if Fox shows the hearings or not.

I guess since no one watched impeachment hearings sequel,  they're going to give primetime a try.

I predict the ratings will be even lower.

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12 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Then you should tell us what you believe that white nationalism includes and you should tell us who the KKK are if not a bunch of the earliest white nationalists that formed a lasting club. 

According to Merriam-Webster white nationalism is one of a group of militant white people who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation. I find it surprising that you don't believe that the KKK fits that definition.

Are you suggesting that I do not know that the KkK is a white supremacist group? Really???.....

When I said "No, no do not" is was referring to ypur question about Mussolini. 

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2 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:

He referred to people who were there that were either protesting to keep the monuments up and the people who were protesting for them to remain. These people were of various races, including black that wanted them to stay up. Very fine people on both sides inactingvtheir constitutional right to peaceful protest. 

Again, he called out and codemed all form of white supremacy and neo nazis. Like word for word. 

I would guess that Charlottesville was chosen as the site for the "Unite the Right" rally because it was already a White Supremacist hot spot due to the ongoing protests over confederate monuments, but the rally was not simply about the monuments.  It was an organized gathering of various white nationalist and neo-fascit groups.  These were not "very fine people" to anyone who opposes white nationalism or neo-fascism.

If you're a President of the United States who is not particularly opposed to White Nationalism and fascism, then of course it would make sense to try and present some sort of denial of those traits, while also giving a sort of wink to those groups so it's clear to them you're on their side.  It would seem fairly clear that these groups still view him as a friend to their cause.

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1 hour ago, Justlookingfornow said:

Are you suggesting that I do not know that the KkK is a white supremacist group? Really???.....

When I said "No, no do not" is was referring to ypur question about Mussolini. 

Yeah...I was because your reply was not clear and left that impression. 

It's also surprising that you cannot see similarities between Mussolini and Trump.  Nevertheless, other people can see similarities between the strategies of the two men.

https://www.businessinsider.com/historians-election-experts-warn-trump-behaving-like-mussolini-2020-9

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