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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

It was a smear campaign.  Democrats tried to take the issue DeSantis had no tie to and make it about him.  He made it clear he's not going to play that game. 

Would it have mattered?  He did call the group "jack-asses" and "malcontents" Would anyone's opinion of him changed had he officially "condemned" them?

LOL

We know what smear campaigns look like because conservatives engage in them all the time.  Right now we're dealing with a smear campaign against Dr Fauci because he didn't play Trump's game like Birx and Redfield did.  We also know what it looks like for political figures to pretend that they aren't courting unsavory groups...acting sometimes like they don't even know what the group is or what they stand for...Trump did that all is the time and DeSantis is loyal to that political playbook.  

And no, conservative voters wouldn't give two cares if they discovered that DeSantis had direct ties to the groups just like they don't care about the corruption or crimes of other political figures as long as it upsets liberals.  Again, this is the era of Trump where the narrative is more important than the truth in republican politics. 

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Well said!  ?

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Thank you @toomuchbaloney and @subee for once again including all conservatives and/or Republicans in your comments.

ETA: Here, here, here, here, and here.

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20 minutes ago, chare said:

Thank you @toomuchbaloney and @subee for once again including all conservatives and/or Republicans in your comments.

ETA: Here, here, here, here, and here.

I don't consider Trumpers to be conservatives.  How many times must I say that?  It's the Trumpers that are getting all the news coverage as "Republicans".  The other Republicans are the ones that Trump calls RHINO's and are the ones not usually reported in the media.  Is this because the non-Trumper Republicans are not speaking up or is it because the media doesn't report on them?  I don't know the answer to that.  I read and listen to both sides who are mostly represented in the media by their most extreme party members.  Republicans didn't stand up for Dr. Birx.  I doubt that a man would have been treated as badly as her, despite the fact that the was a good soldier for Trump.  As least he didn't run his hands up and down her hips or talk about how he'd like to date her as he did his daughter on broadcast television.

 

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57 minutes ago, chare said:

Thank you @toomuchbaloney and @subee for once again including all conservatives and/or Republicans in your comments.

ETA: Here, here, here, here, and here.

You include yourself in those groups you find distressing, apparently. You must support those corrupt persons elevated by conservative voters and identify with the descriptions of behavior in republican voter groups if you are offended by the adjectives describing them.  That's on you.  

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23 minutes ago, chare said:

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Chare: I have enjoyed the majority of your posts and find them thought-provoking. However, have you heard the saying, “When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.” The way to counter blanket characterizations of conservatives and republicans is to continue to articulate your own conservative viewpoint, including the ways in which you oppose those culture warriors who claim to speak for you. The incessant whining about being tarred with the same brush as the likes of Trump, et. al. Is getting old.

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17 minutes ago, heron said:

Chare: I have enjoyed the majority of your posts and find them thought-provoking. However, have you heard the saying, “When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.” 

Thank you.  Yes, I am quite familiar with that saying, and use it frequently.  And, I agree that I need to distance myself from the morons that seem to have hijacked the Republican party. 

18 minutes ago, heron said:

... The way to counter blanket characterizations of conservatives and republicans is to continue to articulate your own conservative viewpoint, including the ways in which you oppose those culture warriors who claim to speak for you. ...

I definitely can agree with this.  I likely should become more vocal, but when 3 or 4 people have already said that the sky is blue, does a 4th or 5th person have to do so as well? 

I don't know what happened to the Republican party, as it has definitely veered well off course.  In my opinion, it started long before Mr. Trump's rise to power, but did he ever accelerate it.  There was some whispering several months ago that either Mr. Trump needed and his supporters or the non-Trump faction needed to leave the party.  I don't think it would matter which one happened, but if one or the other doesn't happen, I'm not sure that the Republican party is going to survive this.

26 minutes ago, heron said:

The incessant whining about being tarred with the same brush as the likes of Trump, et. al. Is getting old.

I occasionally need a good, swift kick in the backside to bring me back to reality.  My wife normally does this, but as she hasn't thank you for doing so now, as well as the really great points you made in your post.  

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6 hours ago, Beerman said:

It was a smear campaign.  Democrats tried to take the issue DeSantis had no tie to and make it about him.  He made it clear he's not going to play that game. 

Would it have mattered?  He did call the group "jack-asses" and "malcontents" Would anyone's opinion of him changed had he officially "condemned" them?

Good point.  But how easy would it have bean to condemn them as racists and let them know they have no place and not welcome in his state.  How would this mature statement smeared him?  Instead he set himself up for more ridicule    If it was a smear campaign, mission accomplished.

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23 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Good point.  But how easy would it have bean to condemn them as racists and let them know they have no place and not welcome in his state.  How would this mature statement smeared him?  Instead he set himself up for more ridicule    If it was a smear campaign, mission accomplished.

The article is missing some key info and context it seems.  I'd like to see or read the interaction and questions from reporters that led to that statement.  

 

 

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8 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

And no, conservative voters wouldn't give two cares if they discovered that DeSantis had direct ties to the groups

Uh huh....but he doesn't. 

Liberals must not give two cares about the lying, corrupt, now senile man they elected.

I'll stack up the charactor of DeSantis against Biden, as well as some other prominent Democrats you're so fond of, anyday.

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3 hours ago, Beerman said:

The article is missing some key info and context it seems.  I'd like to see or read the interaction and questions from reporters that led to that statement.  

 

 

The questions begin at about 26 minutes.

 

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