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34 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:Clearly, lots of conservative Americans are unable to discern conmen from competent leaders, the Trump's are proof of that. There's more evidence that the grifters are running the show in Trumplandia...but the Trump family is pretty obviously skilled in the swindle.
The Obamas, at least, are profiting mostly from their intellectual skills producing income that stays in America. Even the Obama mugs were made by American artists and weren't being sold by the Obama's but by the artists. They never went out of their way to enrich China. They give to charity. I'm not even a fan of the Obamas but there's no comparison between people who give to charity and people who are deemed unfit to run a charity. Did New York Reprimand Trump Family for 'Stealing from a Children's Cancer Charity'? | Snopes.com
3 hours ago, subee said:I'm not even a fan of the Obamas but there's no comparison between people who give to charity and people who are deemed unfit to run a charity. Did New York Reprimand Trump Family for 'Stealing from a Children's Cancer Charity'? | Snopes.com
Here's the link to your article. It seem to contradict the point you're trying to make.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-steal-kids-cancer-charity/
Maybe they aren't barred from charities but there is a controversy.
But if we are talking about how they are currently making their living as ex-presidents and their families, nothing in the article seemed wrong. I also don't think the idea is enrich China, like the Obama's they are out to enrich themselves.
But if you want to go "yeah but...." the character of the Trumps vs. the Obama's, to me the Obama's win hands down.
16 minutes ago, Tweety said:Maybe they aren't barred from charities but there is a controversy.
But if we are talking about how they are currently making their living as ex-presidents and their families, nothing in the article seemed wrong. I also don't think the idea is enrich China, like the Obama's they are out to enrich themselves.
But if you want to go "yeah but...." the character of the Trumps vs. the Obama's, to me the Obama's win hands down.
It's not just the character deficits (the family actually DOES have restrictions on them if they ever did decide to try to fool charitable donators again in NY. But it's also about not hiring Americans while proclaiming your special, heightened sense of patriotism and giving our workers the middle finger. I have said before that Ivanka could have opened her factories in Latin America instead of China. That would work better than any wall in keeping people in their own countries. They are only interested in quick and cheap and to hell with the rest of us.
4 hours ago, subee said:It's not just the character deficits (the family actually DOES have restrictions on them if they ever did decide to try to fool charitable donators again in NY. But it's also about not hiring Americans while proclaiming your special, heightened sense of patriotism and giving our workers the middle finger. I have said before that Ivanka could have opened her factories in Latin America instead of China. That would work better than any wall in keeping people in their own countries. They are only interested in quick and cheap and to hell with the rest of us.
Is your closet full of American made clothing? Or are you just another liberal hypocrite?
The Trump family has employed thousands of Americans and foreign born folks living in the US. Substantially more than any of your Democrat heroes who are wealthy by way of being a politician.
54 minutes ago, Beerman said:Substantially more than any of your Democrat heroes who are wealthy by way of being a politician.
Most presidents, including Republican ones, got there via being politicians with experience rather than business people. But point taken.
I do think, if true, Subee's point is a valid one. The Trumps during their years campaigned on keeping jobs in America and seemed to be anti-outsourcing. This was the backbone behind his controversial tariffs. Since you're seem to be very into pointing out people's hypocrisy.
1 hour ago, Beerman said:Is your closet full of American made clothing? Or are you just another liberal hypocrite?
The Trump family has employed thousands of Americans and foreign born folks living in the US. Substantially more than any of your Democrat heroes who are wealthy by way of being a politician.
So many grandiose claims in defense of the most corrupt and dangerous conman to lie his way into a powerful position. Even the comparative standards that conservatives want applied to Trump and politicians now are dishonest and contrived.
7 hours ago, Tweety said: think, if true, Subee's point is a valid one. The Trumps during their years campaigned on keeping jobs in America and seemed to be anti-outsourcing. This was the backbone behind his controversial tariffs. Since you're seem to be very into pointing out people's hypocrisy.
Here's what Trump did to try and keep and bring jobs back to the US:
https://www.thebalance.com/trump-and-jobs-4114173
I'm sure someone will see the need to debate if he was successful or not, but that's not the point in the context of this discussion.
Ivaka started her clothing line long before her father campaigned to be President. And her company was on the downward slide when he did. Could she have done more to produce made in America clothing? IDK. Maybe. But, I do know about 2% of our clothing is made here. There isn't a lot of infrastructure and workers skilled in that. So, it's not so easy to do, I would imagine.
In my view, hard to see that the Trump's are hypocrites on this issue.
39 minutes ago, Beerman said:In my view, hard to see that the Trump's are hypocrites on this issue.
You're entitled to feel how you feel. Others feel that a a family that promoted "Made In America Week" but goes for the overseas profit in their own dealings as hypocritical. I don't think it's being hypocrite to have foreign made clothes in your closet and point this. But we've all made our points.
But yes, if you're in the clothing design and sales business if you are to succeed there are few options for reasonably priced American made goods.
It's politically correct to be all "Made In America" but the reality is different.
I guess it was a campaign promise to nominate an African American female to the Supreme Court and now Biden is going to deliver on that promise.
One the one hand the progressives wanting to make leadership representative of society means a lot on many levels.
On the other hand Cruz does have a point that Biden is immediately dismissing qualified people, perhaps better qualified people (?) by being so narrow.
QuoteHe's not even pretending to say that he he's saying, 'If you're a White guy, tough luck. If you're a White woman, tough luck. You don't qualify.'"
Lyndsay Graham on the other hand does think the most qualified person is an African American female and states " “I can’t think of a better person for President Biden to consider for the supreme court than Michelle Childs,”
I guess expecting DeSantis to condemn a Neo-Nazi protest in his state is a smear Campaign by the Democrats.
This is a man people want to the President.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/desantis-shies-away-from-condemning-florida-nazis-blames-democrats/
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I'm glad you are back though, @Beerman
Now you can go back and answer that question about what was a huge revelation in that Fox article encouraging distrust of Dr Fauci. What was it about that video that was so compelling for you that you asked each of us if we'd watched it but then you couldn't answer questions about it. Did you hear something new in the video?