What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Dec 10, 2021

7 hours ago, Beerman said:

? we've discussed this more than once in the past. You and anyone else who is interested can go find those posts if you/they wish.

And, your chosen graph nicely hides the plateau of the last year of Obama before Trump.

The graph does show some upticks in unemployment in the Obama years, including the last year and it also shows some ups and downs during Trump's time.

I guess the point is that the overall trajectory was that for both Presidents it was a downward trend even if there were some plateaus and upticks. Also since Trump continued the trend he gets bragging rights, and we all know he did and who can blame him, that he had better numbers. Some of those numbers better than decades prior. Also, people get to say "unemployment rose under Obama's first months" and "unemployment dropped under Trumps first months".

None of this is real earth shattering revelations. Like it was mentioned on the blue side there was a long standing thread about the economy and we talked about the good economy for a couple of years.

It's funny now the challenge is getting people to work. We've had the Great Recession and the recovery, followed by the Covid Recession and now are in the "Great Resignation".

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs

Biden's recent statement: “Our economy is markedly stronger than it was a year ago,” he declared. But he went on to say: “It’s not enough to know that we’re making progress. You need to see it and feel it in your own lives — around the kitchen table, in your checkbooks.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/03/business/economy/November-2021-jobs-report.html

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

"Republicans now sport a historic 10-point advantage when Americans are asked which party they prefer to control Congress, holding a 44%-34% margin over Democrats. That's up from a 2-point Republican advantage in the October survey.

In the past 20 years, CNBC and NBC surveys have never registered a double-digit Republican advantage on congressional preference, with the largest lead ever being 4 pints for the GOP.

"If the election were tomorrow, it would be an absolute unmitigated disaster for the Democrats,'' said Jay Campbell, partner at Hart Research Associates and the Democratic pollster for the survey."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/10/public-view-on-bidens-handling-of-covid-and-the-economy-takes-another-hit-cnbc-survey-shows.html

subee, MSN, CRNA · Dec 10, 2021

9 hours ago, Beausoleil said:

Why did you bring up her sex and breast size?

Because she always reminds us with her cleavage, as do many of the other Barbie Dolls on Fox.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

1 hour ago, subee said:

Because she always reminds us with her cleavage, as do many of the other Barbie Dolls on Fox.

How does she remind us?

I was just looking at her photo in the link you shared. Looks tasteful there.

I'm skeptical that you even watch Fox.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

At least, for now,, we're all saving almost a whole dollar when we fill up our gas tank.

"BLS said in a statement, “The all items index rose 6.8 percent for the 12 months ending October, the largest 12-month increase since the period ending June 1982.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-inflation-skyrockets-to-6-8-higher-than-expected-fastest-rate-in-nearly-40-years?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

For those about to deflect from the topic to criticize me and my source, please include the inaccuracies in the article that you think you see.

toomuchbaloney · Dec 10, 2021

4 minutes ago, Beerman said:

At least, for now,, we're all saving almost a whole dollar when we fill up our gas tank.

"BLS said in a statement, “The all items index rose 6.8 percent for the 12 months ending October, the largest 12-month increase since the period ending June 1982.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-inflation-skyrockets-to-6-8-higher-than-expected-fastest-rate-in-nearly-40-years?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

For those about to deflect from the topic to criticize me and my source, please include the inaccuracies in the article that you think you see.

Clearly, there are social and economic consequences to allowing a novel virus to run rampant through a country.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/ten-facts-about-covid-19-and-the-u-s-economy/

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

17 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

17 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Clearly, there are social and economic consequences to allowing a novel virus to run rampant through a country.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/ten-facts-about-covid-19-and-the-u-s-economy/

Hmm, from September of 2020. Yes. I would agree the economy was suffering greatly from poorly, politically motivated, inconsistent mandates. But, it did help you all get rid of Trump and elect the economic genius we have today.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Dec 10, 2021

The economy isn't all that bad and bigger than pre-pandemic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/05/october-jobs-report-analysis-catherine-rampell/

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/29/the-us-economy-is-bigger-than-it-was-pre-pandemic-but-covid-could-still-decide-what-happens-next.html

But perception I suppose is everything. I remember Obama having the same trouble when the economy was growing and doing well, the public just wasn't buying into that idea.

But for us average people, it's inflation......

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/24/covid-19-64-say-economy-worse-than-year-ago-survey-says/3504085001/

toomuchbaloney · Dec 10, 2021

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Hmm, from September of 2020. Yes. I would agree the economy was suffering greatly from poorly, politically motivated, inconsistent mandates. But, it did help you all get rid of Trump and elect the economic genius we have today.

An "economic genius" was elected to replace Trump? That's interesting. Who describes Biden as an economic genius?

By the way, the economy suffered because the federal leadership and management of the pandemic was corrupt, incompetent and irresponsible. Everything that then president Trump, and his executive branch, said or did relative to the pandemic in 2020 was politically motivated. It's interesting that you would project that onto Biden.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

43 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

An "economic genius" was elected to replace Trump? That's interesting. Who describes Biden as an economic genius?

By the way, the economy suffered because the federal leadership and management of the pandemic was corrupt, incompetent and irresponsible. Everything that then president Trump, and his executive branch, said or did relative to the pandemic in 2020 was politically motivated. It's interesting that you would project that onto Biden.

You don't recognize sarcasm?

Blah blah.....the rest I've heard before, and it bores me to refute again.

Good day.

nursej22, MSN, RN · Dec 10, 2021

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

An "economic genius" was elected to replace Trump? That's interesting. Who describes Biden as an economic genius?

Oh, c'mon, TMB. You know very well that Biden compelled the oil companies to decrease production because of lowered demand, and caused hurricanes to shut down refineries and pipelines, and then forced big oil to increase share holder dividends instead of increasing production.

And what about those tariffs he imposed to show China who was boss?

Who cares if there aren't enough agricultural workers to harvest food? At least we kept the brown people out!

We would had a glut of housing if he would have just forced evictions from people who couldn't pay their rent.

Are gas and food prices high? Yes they are. Does an American president have a magic wand to change it all? I don't think so.

I've made this analogy before. The economy is like a giant, ocean-going ship. You can guide it, but changes happen very slowly and methodically, or you crash into something.

Cclm, LPN · Dec 10, 2021

20 hours ago, subee said:

She us such a lost cause. It embarrasses me to watch her as a representative of our sex. The ultimate dumb Barbie Doll. I guess the Viaga customers who watch Fox thinks she the perfect woman. Double DD and double dumb:)

So you subjugate her by her breast and hair color? Like a true feminist? Beside, there's no such thing a "sex"....