What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

Beausoleil · Dec 10, 2021

4 hours ago, subee said:

She us [sic] such a lost cause. It embarrasses me to watch her as a representative of our sex. The ultimate dumb Barbie Doll. I guess the Viaga [sic] customers who watch Fox thinks [sic] she [sic] the perfect woman. Double DD and double dumb:)

Why did you bring up her sex and breast size?

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

21 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

Here's the graph of unemployment rates before and after Trump came into office. It doesn't appear Trump altered the trend.

? we've discussed this more than once in the past. You and anyone else who is interested can go find those posts if you/they wish.

And, your chosen graph nicely hides the plateau of the last year of Obama before Trump.

MunoRN, RN · Dec 10, 2021

30 minutes ago, Beerman said:

? we've discussed this more than once in the past. You and anyone else who is interested can go find those posts if you/they wish.

And, your chosen graph nicely hides the plateau of the last year of Obama before Trump.

The data in the graph is accurate, I get that you were led to believe there was a more impressive change of trajectory under Trump. There wasn't.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

42 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

The data in the graph is accurate, I get that you were led to believe there was a more impressive change of trajectory under Trump. There wasn't.

That's a nice deflection from what I said about Obama's last year. And, there's more. Again, you should go refresh your memory on our previous discussions on this.

How about a source for your cartoonish graph?

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

Even with this graph, if you enlarge it you can see that in mid 2015 it leveled out at 5%. It never went below about 4.8%. the last year and a half of his presidency. And then when Trump came in, it went down again.

MunoRN, RN · Dec 10, 2021

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

? we've discussed this more than once in the past. You and anyone else who is interested can go find those posts if you/they wish.

And, your chosen graph nicely hides the plateau of the last year of Obama before Trump.

How about a source for your cartoonish graph?

The "plateau" is there to see, although it puts into context of overall trends.

I'm pretty sure it cites the source at the bottom (Federal Reserve Economic Data).

Is it "cartoonish" because it has colors?

29 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Even with this graph, if you enlarge it you can see that in mid 2015 it leveled out at 5%. It never went below about 4.8%. the last year and a half of his presidency. And then when Trump came in, it went down again.

If you "enlarge it" you can also see that unemployment increased under Trump even before Covid, but that would also be cherry-picking data and taking it out of context.

toomuchbaloney · Dec 10, 2021

3 minutes ago, Beerman said:

That's a nice deflection from what I said about Obama's last year. And, there's more. Again, you should go refresh your memory on our previous discussions on this.

Would you please provide a source to demonstrate what you are talking about with Obama's last year? That would help refresh our memory.

I don't think that was a deflection. He disagrees with your assessment of what the data reflects.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

18 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Would you please provide a source to demonstrate what you are talking about with Obama's last year? That would help refresh our memory.

I don't think that was a deflection. He disagrees with your assessment of what the data reflects.

No

toomuchbaloney · Dec 10, 2021

2 minutes ago, Beerman said:

No

In that case, this is your opinion versus MunoRN's data reference and that is hardly a match. Should I wonder why you don't want to defend or illustrate your point or is assumption cool with you?

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

26 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

The "plateau" is there to see, although it puts into context of overall trends.

I'm pretty sure it cites the source at the bottom (Federal Reserve Economic Data).

Is it "cartoonish" because it has colors?

If you "enlarge it" you can also see that unemployment increased under Trump even before Covid, but that would also be cherry-picking data and taking it out of context.

I'm pretty sure it has a source for the data. Where did you get the graph from?

It's cartoonist because you can't extract any specific data from it. What was the unemployment for September 2015?

I'm pretty sure the number it increased to under Trump was still lower than it was in the 8 years under Obama.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 10, 2021

2 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

In that case, this is your opinion versus MunoRN's data reference and that is hardly a match. Should I wonder why you don't want to defend or illustrate your point or is assumption cool with you?

I actually pointed out what I was talking about, using his graph. Do you not know how to interpret a graph?

I also said twice that we've discussed this in detail in the past.

And, unemployment figures are easy to find. This what I did when he tried to tell us about the trend in the past. Are you unable to look up monthly unemployment figures?

And, finally, wonder whatever you want. It absolutely is cool with me.

toomuchbaloney · Dec 10, 2021

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

I actually pointed out what I was talking about, using his graph. Do you not know how to interpret a graph?

I also said twice that we've discussed this in detail in the past.

And, unemployment figures are easy to find. This what I did when he tried to tell us about the trend in the past. Are you unable to look up monthly unemployment figures?

And, finally, wonder whatever you want. It absolutely is cool with me.

Don't be silly, we all know how to interpret graphs. Why not discuss it in detail now?

Yes, the numbers are easy to find, which is why it is puzzling that you are asking questions about them that you could easily find yourself and why you can't be bothered to provide the numbers which support your beliefs about the Obama unemployment numbers.

I'm happy to wonder about your facts and logic and why they don't seem to line up with the data and numbers. It's interesting that you're happy with that.