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5 minutes ago, Beerman said:

No, he was not being pursued.  And, he tried to run over someone else recently.   What a strange coincidence.

I don't know where you're getting that anyone claimed he was being "pursued".

Police received a call just prior to him driving through the parade regarding a domestic violence incident involving him, at least so far it appears he was recklessly fleeing that situation and he likely was aware the police had been called.

There's been no evidence so far that his primary goal was to find a bunch of people and run them over.

I get the impression that conservative media outlets take that to mean that what he did wasn't as bad as it actually was?  Which makes no sense to me, getting the facts right isn't a sin, and doesn't change that he should have been dragged from the car while people took turns beating him to death.  

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This is the first I've read about the reprobate. 

The Wisconsin parade suspect was accused of a car attack weeks ago. Here’s why he was out on bail.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/24/wisconsin-parade-darrell-brooks-bail/

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In the lead article over on Fox News, it's about anti-Trump lyrics of the rapper, they use the word "plowed through" instead of attack.  I guess that he's anti-Trump is important somehow.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/waukesha-darrell-brooks-milwaukee-rap-scene

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

In the lead article over on Fox News, it's about anti-Trump lyrics of the rapper, they use the word "plowed through" instead of attack.  I guess that he's anti-Trump is important somehow.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/waukesha-darrell-brooks-milwaukee-rap-scene

Fox news will use the killer's anti Trump stance to try to make it appear that he is supported by liberals or anyone who is anti Trump.  That's how misinformation works.  It's a process of propaganda that unfolds over a bit of time because they don't want to come right out and say that...they need to imply it and make emotionally charged suggestions. 

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12 hours ago, MunoRN said:

If any part of the media tried to downplay what this guy did then I'd agree with you, but calling it an "attack" doesn't appear to be accurate.

From what we know so far, the F-r was fleeing a violent altercation, and decided speeding through a parade was the best way to that.

I don't know why conservative outlets like Shapirio's DW are so quick to make an argument that facts have no place in the media.

I think he doesn't understand the broader meaning of "attack".

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13 hours ago, Tweety said:

I have to roll my eyes at this one.  

When I think of it, I think "damn that man crashed his car into those people" or "that man ran over a bunch of people".  I don't think less of myself for not saying "that man attacked those people".  To me it's all the same.

Next controversy. 

You're missing the big picture.  The media downplays what doesn't fit into their narrative.  Like when a CNN reporter, with buildings on fire in the background, reports how the protests are mostly peaceful.

And then when something happens that they can make fit into their narrative,  they will without much care to being factual.   Such as the reporting of Rittenhouse being a white supremacist and other lies about the case.

Now, according to the WaPo, a SUV caused the massacre.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-waukesha-parade-attack-caused-by-suv

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

And then when something happens that they can make fit into their narrative,  they will without much care to being factual. 

Like the events of January 6? Or election results? Or evidence of voter fraud requiring changes to voting processes? Or maybe when the outlet alters an image so that the published photo of Epstein no longer includes Donald Trump? 

Rittenhouse associated himself with a white supremacist group.  Maybe he just didn't know much about them, eh?

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

You're missing the big picture.  The media downplays what doesn't fit into their narrative.  Like when a CNN reporter, with buildings on fire in the background, reports how the protests are mostly peaceful.

And then when something happens that they can make fit into their narrative,  they will without much care to being factual.   Such as the reporting of Rittenhouse being a white supremacist and other lies about the case.

Now, according to the WaPo, a SUV caused the massacre.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-waukesha-parade-attack-caused-by-suv

Yep, just like the poster here said the Jan 6th riot was mostly peaceful because that first their narrative.

I might agree that Jan 6th was mostly peaceful.  There were thousands of people there peacefully protesting.  A small segment caused it to get out of hand in one area.

  But get someone to say that a BLM protest that might have had some violence as "mostly peaceful" doesn't fit a narrative either.

 I get how things are characterized. Just yesterday,  I pointed out that the narrative of reporters saying "the city is on fire and in ruins due to thugs" compared to "the college kids were a bit rowdy last night".   College kids getting rowdy after losing a football game fits the narrative better than it was a riot.  

As I've already pointed out the media did jump the gun with making Rittenhouse about race and now he gets to tell a different story that has people thinking and give the right media and Fox (that has too many to count stories about it) cause for pointing the finger.

You're wrong, I do get the big picture. We're more on the same page than not.  The media sensationalizes things and people make quick rash judgements that are later proven wrong.  Just fact check Hannity and Carlson they have an agenda as well. 

 Still, at the end of the day calling a man driving a vehicle into people calling it "crashing into people" rather than "attacking people" doesn't matter much to me.  I guess we'll never know if he decided "I'm going to attack and kill these people" but if we do I might change my mind and start calling it an attack because things aren't always what they appear.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Yep, just like the poster here said the Jan 6th riot was mostly peaceful because that first their narrative.

I might agree that Jan 6th was mostly peaceful.  There were thousands of people there peacefully protesting.  A small segment caused it to get out of hand in one area.

  But get someone to say that a BLM protest that might have had some violence as "mostly peaceful" doesn't fit a narrative either.

 I get how things are characterized. Just yesterday,  I pointed out that the narrative of reporters saying "the city is on fire and in ruins due to thugs" compared to "the college kids were a bit rowdy last night".   College kids getting rowdy after losing a football game fits the narrative better than it was a riot.  

As I've already pointed out the media did jump the gun with making Rittenhouse about race and now he gets to tell a different story that has people thinking and give the right media and Fox (that has too many to count stories about it) cause for pointing the finger.

You're wrong, I do get the big picture. We're more on the same page than not.  The media sensationalizes things and people make quick rash judgements that are later proven wrong.  Just fact check Hannity and Carlson they have an agenda as well. 

 Still, at the end of the day calling a man driving a vehicle into people calling it "crashing into people" rather than "attacking people" doesn't matter much to me.  I guess we'll never know if he decided "I'm going to attack and kill these people" but if we do I might change my mind and start calling it an attack because things aren't always what they appear.  

 

 

If the guy had lost control of his faculties behind the wheel for a medical reason (stroke, hypoglycemia, etc), that would not be an attack.  IMHO, anything else is and I can't imagine that focusing on the word "attack" is nothing more than a diversion.  We don't have any idea yet of how mentally ill this person yet.  I'll just wait until we actually KNOW anything before even giving this incident more thought except for extreme sadness.

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8 minutes ago, subee said:

If the guy had lost control of his faculties behind the wheel for a medical reason (stroke, hypoglycemia, etc), that would not be an attack.  IMHO, anything else is and I can't imagine that focusing on the word "attack" is nothing more than a diversion.  We don't have any idea yet of how mentally ill this person yet.  I'll just wait until we actually KNOW anything before even giving this incident more thought except for extreme sadness.

The media that intends to weaponize any and all details about this case into polarizing wedge will find all manner of piquing and provocative words to convince their targets that there's deep division (possibly following political lines) about this tragic event and what justice might include. We'll likely get introduced to a fair amount of that partisan rhetoric about this killer.  Because some media is very engaged in describing and even elevating or instigating division and animus among the American people.  Cable television commentary and right wing radio make bank on the conflict and so they deepen and develop conflict at every opportunity.  Social media like FB and Twitter profit when people are inflamed and so their algorithms send people down inflammatory rabbit holes.  

 

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6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Fox news will use the killer's anti Trump stance to try to make it appear that he is supported by liberals or anyone who is anti Trump.  That's how misinformation works.  It's a process of propaganda that unfolds over a bit of time because they don't want to come right out and say that...they need to imply it and make emotionally charged suggestions. 

Emotionally charged like Kyle Rittenhouse's reporting?  He was a white supremacist and all the lies that are still being said even after the truth came out??? 

The left media making all sorts of claims that they had no proof of??? And still are?? 

Or like Nick Sandman in which some got sued huge? And many will be sued by Kyle?? 

Mark my words, if this pos was white, he'd be a domestic terrorist Maga Trump loving nazi within the first hour of the story breaking. 

Does anyone see the hypocrisy? 

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The media that intends to weaponize any and all details about this case into polarizing wedge will find all manner of piquing and provocative words to convince their targets that there's deep division (possibly following political lines) about this tragic event and what justice might include. We'll likely get introduced to a fair amount of that partisan rhetoric about this killer.  Because some media is very engaged in describing and even elevating or instigating division and animus among the American people.  Cable television commentary and right wing radio make bank on the conflict and so they deepen and develop conflict at every opportunity.  Social media like FB and Twitter profit when people are inflamed and so their algorithms send people down inflammatory rabbit holes.  

 

Like the left and Kyle Rittenhouse?? That's media?? 

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1 hour ago, subee said:

If the guy had lost control of his faculties behind the wheel for a medical reason (stroke, hypoglycemia, etc), that would not be an attack.  IMHO, anything else is and I can't imagine that focusing on the word "attack" is nothing more than a diversion.  We don't have any idea yet of how mentally ill this person yet.  I'll just wait until we actually KNOW anything before even giving this incident more thought except for extreme sadness.

Yes. Because you know Kyle Ritthouse was a forsure white supremacist and we didn't know his mental status either but that didn't stop the left from making their inflamed propaganda assumptions. 

Of course you won't give it thought, a black man and does not fit into your narrative. It wasn't a white guy committing terrorism so no.... don't talk about it? 

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