What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

subee, MSN, CRNA · Nov 26, 2021

4 minutes ago, Tweety said:

This is how liberals are destroying America:

https://www.winchesterstar.com/winchester_star/open-forum-if-anyone-is-working-to-destroy-america-its-the-liberals/article_a267383b-e8e7-56e9-8211-5be3af4b5f51.html

It's just a comment by a crank. He has supplied one iota of data to support his rant. He's assuming that the Dems are the cause of increased violence instead of any other cause. Society was floundering before Biden from multiple causes...none of which were caused by Dems since they were effectively out of power. You'll have to show me some evidence that the majority of Dems support The Squad which represents the uber progressive minority of the party.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Nov 26, 2021

1 minute ago, subee said:

It's just a comment by a crank. He has supplied one iota of data to support his rant. He's assuming that the Dems are the cause of increased violence instead of any other cause. Society was floundering before Biden from multiple causes...none of which were caused by Dems since they were effectively out of power. You'll have to show me some evidence that the majority of Dems support The Squad which represents the uber progressive minority of the party.

Big cities tend to be Democrat run. I've noticed Fox News seems to be focusing on rising crime these days. Perhaps rising crime is an issue.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/11/republicans-blame-democrats-defund-police-national-crime-increase-2020-fact-check/7641800002/

toomuchbaloney · Nov 26, 2021

18 hours ago, Tweety said:

This is how liberals are destroying America:

https://www.winchesterstar.com/winchester_star/open-forum-if-anyone-is-working-to-destroy-america-its-the-liberals/article_a267383b-e8e7-56e9-8211-5be3af4b5f51.html

Critical race theory, "rewrite the rules to steal the election" are candidates ideas.

https://www.alreporter.com/2021/08/04/jessica-taylor-promises-to-stop-liberals-from-destroying-the-american-dream/

Some articles about liberals being a "dangerous threat" are hard to come by, some require prescription. Some are right wing rhetoric, but it's out there.

Really, all their talking points they describe as "dangerous"...critical race theory, the border problems, inflation, tax and spend, raising the deficit, "dismantling the police", etc. are how they think liberals are destroying American and "dangerous".

The "rewriting the rules to steal the election" is a new one I'm going to have to look into and see what the liberals are doing there.

Yeah. That first "article" quickly spiraled into this...

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We now have a President that is becoming even more cognitively impaired by the day. He is unable to competently or intelligently discuss any situation and misquotes facts in virtually every statement. Joe Biden is wholly unqualified to be President, and the VP is equally a train wreck. Every day we wonder who is actually running the country, we all know it isn’t Joe, he’s just the guy sent out to read prepared statements.

Then it trotted this out;

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The efforts by 19 states so far to revise their voting laws is exactly the opposite of what the media and Democrats profess. The changes are to eliminate areas of voting fraud, such as mass mailing of ballots, 24-hour voting, drive by voting and lack of identification.

We all know by now that there is no voting fraud to be eliminated. So voter fraud can't possibly be the justification for the changes. I wonder what other motivations there might be in states which were historically persistent in voter suppression tactics?

The Alabama candidate certainly hit all the high points of republican rhetoric.

What did you think about these articles? Did either present a substantive case to support their claims, in your view?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Nov 26, 2021

I didn't it made sense or was logical, I was just trying to understand the "danger" that democrats are putting the country in. No these articles, while highlighting their concerns of the danger the country is in doesn't really convince me.

Also, I am not convinced that the republic is in danger by Republican policies or even Trump and like minded politicians. I somehow this blind faith that democracy in America will prevail. I've lost hope in Americans and humanity in general and I think we're in the last days of us being "the leader of the free world" and the role model country, but I don't think I will see our demise in my lifetime.

toomuchbaloney · Nov 27, 2021

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Also, I am not convinced that the republic is in danger by Republican policies or even Trump and like minded politicians. I somehow this blind faith that democracy in America will prevail. I've lost hope in Americans and humanity in general and I think we're in the last days of us being "the leader of the free world" and the role model country, but I don't think I will see our demise in my lifetime.

I am concerned that we've already had our last national free and fair election.

Cclm, LPN · Nov 27, 2021

23 hours ago, Tweety said:

Nick Sandman is a good example. His story was fueled by social media and the media seeing public interest in it jumped the gun.

Kyle Rittenhouse, not so much. He wasn't some innocent kid that just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

I don't know if the vigilante group the "Kenosha Guard" that used facebook to recruit people like Rittenhouse was a racist group. But they violated curfew, put themselves in danger and people died.

Of course he's not a murderer, and now he's free to interview and say what he wants that he's not a racist and that he supports BLM protests.

Some of the vigilant groups that protect persons and property from BLM protesters are aligned with white supremists groups. So it wasn't a stretch.

Rittenhouse has the best lawyers money can buy, fueled by donations, and is using words like "malice and defamation" so most like lawsuits will be forthcoming.

I agree with pretty much everything you said!

I do not hold allot of weight to groups being labeled "white supremacists groups". How can you when everyone and anyone is a "white supremasist" even black people apparently. "Larry Elder black face white supremacy). In Rittenhouse's case he was labeled that from the start before anyone knew anything. It is known now that the FBI searched his social media and his phone and found nothing to support he's a white supremacists. Even know, the lies are still being said. All on left media.

I do not particularly like Fox, it's obviously bias but I am forced to watch because I may not even hear about something on left MSM, or at least both sides. Can you really say you don't see a bias with left wing media and how they report something like Rittenhouse and now this Christmas parade pos? Think about what they would be saying if he was white and drove into a crowd of Muslium celebrators . Do you really think it would be reported the same?

I'm asking you this and I genuinely want know what you think as I take you as a fair kind person. I even respect you when you put me in my place because you are still respectful(even when I'm not being so respectful).

Cclm, LPN · Nov 27, 2021

2 hours ago, Tweety said:

I didn't it made sense or was logical, I was just trying to understand the "danger" that democrats are putting the country in. No these articles, while highlighting their concerns of the danger the country is in doesn't really convince me.

Also, I am not convinced that the republic is in danger by Republican policies or even Trump and like minded politicians. I somehow this blind faith that democracy in America will prevail. I've lost hope in Americans and humanity in general and I think we're in the last days of us being "the leader of the free world" and the role model country, but I don't think I will see our demise in my lifetime.

Me too! It is so sad. It's all about a pissing contest between two parties . It's more important who win than the people they are supposed to represent!.

I have only voted once as I felt before that, although I am a US citizen, I live in Canada if I do not live there I shouldn't really vote. Until now because so much is at risk.

Cclm, LPN · Nov 27, 2021

10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yeah. That first "article" quickly spiraled into this...

Then it trotted this out;

We all know by now that the is no voting fraud to be eliminated. So voter fraud can't possibly be the justification for the changes. I wonder what other motivations there might be in states which were historically persistent in voter suppression tactics?

The Alabama candidate certainly hit all the high points of republican rhetoric.

What did you think about these articles? Did either present a substantive case to support their claims, in your view?

It's kinda weird that his physical was all but mental/cognition...... conspicuously left out....

subee, MSN, CRNA · Nov 27, 2021

22 hours ago, Tweety said:

Big cities tend to be Democrat run. I've noticed Fox News seems to be focusing on rising crime these days. Perhaps rising crime is an issue.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/11/republicans-blame-democrats-defund-police-national-crime-increase-2020-fact-check/7641800002/

In my most recent Windows 11 update, I am unable to post links that can be activated so apologies in advance. I did a little research on this and it seems that Fox News isn't exactly being honest. Homicides (according to the FBI have risen a little above 2 % in NYC and a little over 10% in Chicago. I knew a "lot more" guns were sold during the pandemic (our gun stores had to ration ammo) but according to this CNN quote, 23 MILLION more were sold during 2020:

(CNN)Gun sales in the United States reached a record level last year, with the biggest increases in background checks for firearms overlapping with months of social and political unrest, according to industry and government data.

Industry data and firearms background checks show nearly 23 million guns were purchased in 2020. END of quote.

Even, cynical little old me never would have estimated a number that high. What could go wrong? What side of the political spectrum runs out to buy guns and promote the gun industry? Even though homocides are up the other violent offences are stable and in toto, there is only a minor increase in crime. That's the nuance Fox doesn't tell us because that's not the narrative they want to promote to retain their advertisers.

Beerman, BSN · Nov 27, 2021

1 hour ago, subee said:

In my most recent Windows 11 update, I am unable to post links that can be activated so apologies in advance. I did a little research on this and it seems that Fox News isn't exactly being honest. Homicides (according to the FBI have risen a little above 2 % in NYC and a little over 10% in Chicago. I knew a "lot more" guns were sold during the pandemic (our gun stores had to ration ammo) but according to this CNN quote, 23 MILLION more were sold during 2020:

(CNN)Gun sales in the United States reached a record level last year, with the biggest increases in background checks for firearms overlapping with months of social and political unrest, according to industry and government data.

Industry data and firearms background checks show nearly 23 million guns were purchased in 2020. END of quote.

Even, cynical little old me never would have estimated a number that high. What could go wrong? What side of the political spectrum runs out to buy guns and promote the gun industry? Even though homocides are up the other violent offences are stable and in toto, there is only a minor increase in crime. That's the nuance Fox doesn't tell us because that's not the narrative they want to promote to retain their advertisers.

Which Fox News article are you speaking of, and how is it being dishonest?

Are you saying record gun sales to Republicans are to blame for a increase in crime?

chare · Nov 27, 2021

1 hour ago, subee said:

In my most recent Windows 11 update, I am unable to post links that can be activated so apologies in advance. I did a little research on this and it seems that Fox News isn't exactly being honest. Homicides (according to the FBI have risen a little above 2 % in NYC and a little over 10% in Chicago. I knew a "lot more" guns were sold during the pandemic (our gun stores had to ration ammo) but according to this CNN quote, 23 MILLION more were sold during 2020:

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Don't you find a 10% increase in homicides concerning?

1 hour ago, subee said:

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Even, cynical little old me never would have estimated a number that high. What could go wrong? What side of the political spectrum runs out to buy guns and promote the gun industry? Even though homocides are up the other violent offences are stable and in toto, there is only a minor increase in crime. That's the nuance Fox doesn't tell us because that's not the narrative they want to promote to retain their advertisers.

Are you suggesting that the increase in gun sales led to the increased homicide rate? If so, shouldn't ther have been an équivalent increase in homicides in all areas? Particularly if other violent crime rates remained reletavely unchanged?

subee, MSN, CRNA · Nov 27, 2021

59 minutes ago, chare said:

Don't you find a 10% increase in homicides concerning?

Are you suggesting that the increase in gun sales led to the increased homicide rate? If so, shouldn't ther have been an équivalent increase in homicides in all areas? Particularly if other violent crime rates remained reletavely unchanged?

I don't know if there is an answer to your question at this time. Chicago ALWAYS had a higher homicide rate than NYC . It is logical that one reason is that there's easier access to guns in Chicago. SCOTUS will be deciding soon if it's acceptable that bullets should be ricocheting in buses and subways as more angry people get easy access to weapons. And I AM suggesting that the presence of guns in the hands of first time buyers during a pandemic has contributed to gun violence, especially during domestic violence and children accessing unsecured guns. The pandemic has certainly unrestrained a lot of folks who don't have the coping skills to deal with the suck times. I wouldn't have even made my previous post if I weren't concerned about the homicide rates because I know they are a direct reflection of domestic violence stats that frequently go unreported. But we sure see the results in family courts.